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kknd Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:24pm
Best Weapon in SP?
Not to make this a vs debate, but I'm curious to hear people's opinions. I'm not entierly through the campagin yet so I havn't tried everything but the Vengence is a godsend revelation to behold. Nothing else has filled the role of 'effective gun' nearly as well as this beatutiful creation.

Assault Cannon is reasonably good but it's got a limited effective range compared to the Vengence. Plasma Cannon doesn't feel suited to the environment to me and in all honesty the Spear of Caliban's ammo problem is just too severe. The Redemptor needs to be unlimited fire rate Semi-auto or current rate Full Auto in my opinion. The Hellfire seems like it could fill the sniper role but I'm not sure if I'd trade in the Vengence for that.

Melee is right out in my opinion, I need more then warp lightning as a ranged option.

As for my brothers, I'm shocked at how tough Barachel is with the storm shield and thunder hammer. Watching a Brother just face tank an Enhanced Scythe Strain before beating it to death is a glorius experience... and keeps the Narcathium heals for me and the Apothacary.

Man Apothacary gets NO love here. Why no options that don't involve dropping the Narcathium? I'd love to give him a Redemptor or Hellfire since Barachel has the Assault Cannon and Plasma Cannon covered. Also bugs me we can't hand out the relics to them, Barachel with the Spear of Calaban sounds glorius.

To be fair, the Storm Bolter is a truly lovely peice of kit for all situations. I'm happy about that, now if only I could use the other Bolter patterns with a Force weapon...

So anyone found their own prefrence? Why that tool? :raven:
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Racista Misogino Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:25pm 
heavy flamer, incredibly good
caalsigo Dec 23, 2016 @ 3:34pm 
Tried most weapons, used the storm bolter for the majority of the game. The cooldown bonus from the force weapons is just to useful. A shame you can not combine them with the other storm bolters at least. Force axe and heavy flamer would be simply broken :)
NOB_IRL Dec 23, 2016 @ 3:43pm 
Plasma cannon ftw! Even more so with the skill that prevents jamming! :steamhappy:
Lander1 Dec 23, 2016 @ 3:54pm 
The rapid fire sun-gun is my personal favourite. The thing that irkes me with the Vengeance is that I can't hit anything at range with any kind of reasonable accuracy, where as the sun-gun bolt goes exactly where I point it, and splash damage for the win!

Second to that would probably be the storm bolter with Hellfire ammo. Hell of a gun that...

I'd use the hell out of the lightning claws and Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield if only they came with a short range tactical teleporter as part of their wargear/kit.
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Vezon40k Dec 23, 2016 @ 4:17pm 
Assault cannon and the mace were my thing. I only used vengeance when i knew something big was coming up soon, other than that I ignored it. Used the plasma cannon a couple times, couldn't really get behind it, heavy flamer was fun for a few missions, then I saw that I needed something better (so I went back to the assault cannon). I only used the regular storm bolter until I got the assault cannon.

In case it isn't obvious, I love the assault cannon. Don't let me have it in co-op if youre going to turn friendly fire on. If so, then get behind me.
kknd Dec 23, 2016 @ 6:57pm 
Originally posted by Unteralterbach:
heavy flamer, incredibly good
I found it moderately underwhelming once the Enhanced enemies showed up. It just doesn't cook them fast enough. Along with the classic flamer problem of obscuring my view of course, but I signed up for that.



Originally posted by caalsigo:
Tried most weapons, used the storm bolter for the majority of the game. The cooldown bonus from the force weapons is just to useful. A shame you can not combine them with the other storm bolters at least. Force axe and heavy flamer would be simply broken :)
Yeah, until I tried the Vengence the only thing that made me consider going away from the Force Sword (let alone the axe!) was the Assault Cannon and even then I couldn't bring my self to do it.

Originally posted by NOB #IRL:
Plasma cannon ftw! Even more so with the skill that prevents jamming! :steamhappy:
I'm willing to bet getting that will change the risk factors of weapons quite a bit. Flamer Jams scared the crap out of me when I tried it.



Originally posted by Lander1:
The rapid fire sun-gun is my personal favourite. The thing that irkes me with the Vengeance is that I can't hit anything at range with any kind of reasonable accuracy, where as the sun-gun bolt goes exactly where I point it, and splash damage for the win!

Second to that would probably be the storm bolter with Hellfire ammo. Hell of a gun that...

I'd use the hell out of the lightning claws and Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield if only they came with a short range tactical teleporter as part of their wargear/kit.
Yeah not having a response to ranged threats aside from lightning and prayers to the god emperor (which don't work unless your a SoB naturally) bites, and having to potentially give up the inferno power to slot teleport doesn't appeal to me. Still I'll have to at least try out the Spear under combat conditions.



Originally posted by Vezon40k:
Assault cannon and the mace were my thing. I only used vengeance when i knew something big was coming up soon, other than that I ignored it. Used the plasma cannon a couple times, couldn't really get behind it, heavy flamer was fun for a few missions, then I saw that I needed something better (so I went back to the assault cannon). I only used the regular storm bolter until I got the assault cannon.

In case it isn't obvious, I love the assault cannon. Don't let me have it in co-op if youre going to turn friendly fire on. If so, then get behind me.
Assault Cannon is gooood stuff. It honestly tempted me quite a bit, but if I'm a Libarian, I want my psi powers blast it!

Vengence is just a functional swap of the AC/20 (shout out Mechwarrior/Battletech) to less bullets and more punch per bullet... also notably less reliable then the basic AC. I basically never let Brother Barachel stop using his until I tested the Thunderhammer and I'm still torn on that being 'better'. I think it's probly equal to in all honesty.

The Vengence has issues with longer ranges if you don't fire essentially semi auto single shots, but is suprizingly capable by doing that. It's not Hellfire Bolts, but then that looks like it's the Sniper Rifle equivalent here.

Glad I got some input. I think MP will have more of a 'we need the right mix of weapons' situation then SP's 'what works best for me' situation. Looking forward to it honestly. :raven:
Cyprinodon Dec 23, 2016 @ 7:04pm 
Gonna have to say that it's hard to beat storm bolter and force axe combo. Although I wish I could use force weapons with the other bolters
vindicator Dec 23, 2016 @ 7:34pm 
Plasma cannon because it stuns spitters and big melee stealers caught in the blast. This alone makes it best.Also it is accurate for hybrid long range sniping and you can use librarian powers if it jams to hold the line.
Last edited by vindicator; Dec 23, 2016 @ 7:36pm
Yizz Dec 23, 2016 @ 7:53pm 
I've tried at least an 30-40 minutes with all possible weapon combos so far, but I can't say if there's really a best. The rapid-fire plasma cannon is hard to beat imo, cuz it hits hard, can stun, and is accurate enough to splat those pesky stubber and rocket hybrids.

I sure hope this game gets an overhaul soon, specifically in the weapons/loadout department. I need more than 2 or 3 powers for a psyker, and I need more control over the loadouts of my companions to be happy with this game (in spite of its myriad other flaws)
Carnaga Dec 26, 2016 @ 3:18pm 
Any weapon that doesn't suffer a firearm malfunction called "jammed weapon". You know: you have a horde coming in and you need to reload and than your weapon gets jammed. Instead of occasional high level burst damage I prefer to do constant damage.

A reliable weapon is my choise and at the moment my favorite is Redemption: You can trust it, you can shoot behind junctions (bullets bounce from walls), you can stagger the enemies and you can hit multiple targets doing constant damage.

Only downside is that Redemption doesn't perform greatly on ranged targets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TVctDOzKDA
Tyrendian89 Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:26pm 
I need to go back to Storm Bolter and try the Force Axe I guess considering all the praise it's getting here...
Redemption Bolter, meh I never got along with Shotguns too well...
Hellfire Bolter is pretty darn good, lotsa accurate damage and good fire rate to boot.
Assault Cannon is pretty damn good, Vengeance not so much for me - just never seemed to hit and jammed all the time, while the AC just sprayed so many bullets that stuff was bound to die...
Regular Plasma aint bad, and neither is the Spear of Caliban, but both are very annoying to me because of the stupid hitboxes of your supposed "helpers" - they just block half my shots by being a meter away from the line of fire it seems like... gnah.
My most used weapon is still the Heavy Flamer though - for the sheer feeling of "BUURRRRRRRRRNNNNN XENOS!!!!!!!!!" it instills when you lay into a horde of 'Stealers with it. And it seems to do reasonably well against the tougher stuff out there too. combined with Spontaneous Combustion and Vortex of Doom for two on-demand kills on almost any Xenos that comes around...
Yizz Dec 26, 2016 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by -đдқ- Tyrendian:
My most used weapon is still the Heavy Flamer though - for the sheer feeling of "BUURRRRRRRRRNNNNN XENOS!!!!!!!!!" it instills when you lay into a horde of 'Stealers with it.

I am sooo with you on that -[đдқ]- Tyrendian!!! I use the heavy flamer so often, it feels amazing to hoze down xenos with promethium :D
Yuri Dec 26, 2016 @ 6:59pm 
Mace of Absolution + Lion's Nemesis combo and smashing on the ground or on the walls to AOE, if the the target it is too far I use smite, if there are too many powerful xenos in a single place I use the "VORTEX OF DOOM", but you are the best weapon on the end, cause you are a psyker and a Elite Space Marine, you are so OP that they had to nerf you so it wouldn't make your battle brothers and the xenos sad.
Blacklion Dec 26, 2016 @ 8:08pm 
My faith is my strongest weapon. My bolter is my hate.
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Date Posted: Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:24pm
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