What Escape from Durgesh really is...

[CursedPanther]

So I finally got some time to spend in Escape from Durgesh, and I must say I don't like it. It's nothing more than a rinse and repeat process until you unlock enough skills and weapons to get yourself to the final objective. Mind you, the whole thing is timed as well. Failing or dying will reset you straight back to the start.

For those who are still finding a fix to unlock the DLC, don't have your hopes up too high. This will be a perfect challenge for completionists and grinders, but an absolute pain for explorers.

[bluz74]

Unfortunately, I have to say, I agree. I'm not really sure I get the point. And I don't understand why they didn't at least add some achievements to make some sort of illusion of a point.

Plus, they gave it a story that, if you have played and finished the game, doesn't make any sense. I don't get it at all.

[westbusa1300k4]

Personally wont buy the add on,i hate timed missions and having to start over from beginning,not for me...plus what you pay for it,what a joke..personally think it should have just been added to the game from the start...but still wouldnt play it...

[Søn of Jøn]

Slight clarifications: If you die, or quit and save, and start over later, you're not entirely back at the beginning - you retain your weapons, loot, and skills at least.
Not sure if you retain anything you 'unlocked' along the way though, such as the gyrocopter and so on.

And while it's true that it does have a time limit, completing side missions and karma events, plus finding masks and spinning mani wheels, will add time back to the clock.

That said, it's a serious grind, and you gotta really love hunting and battling in order to stick with it. It works for me, because I enjoy that sort of thing, but it's pretty brutal and time-consuming.

[CursedPanther]

Originally posted by Oblivious:

Slight clarifications: If you die, or quit and save, and start over later, you're not entirely back at the beginning - you retain your weapons, loot, and skills at least.

Exactly the issue here. The developers clearly make it obvious you won't be able to rush the objective in the first playthrough. They even remind you again through the mouth of Pagan. So why bother with the stupid timer in the first place？I could've stood the dead and reset mechanism, but I seriously don't need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clock to time my grinding.

No one with the right mind will rush an open-world game. If I want a fast paced action shooter, I will play CoD thank you.

[Søn of Jøn]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Exactly the issue here. The developers clearly make it obvious you won't be able to rush the objective in the first playthrough. They even remind you again through the mouth of Pagan. So why bother with the stupid timer in the first place？I could've stood the dead and reset mechanism, but I seriously don't need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clock to time my grinding.

No one with the right mind will rush an open-world game. If I want a fast paced action shooter, I will play CoD thank you.

Well, having spent some time with it, and having gone through a good deal of the necessary crafting and upgrading my skills, I believe I can now answer what they were thinking with the time limit...

There are missions throughout the game, which if you accomplish, you get various perks, assistance, whatever added at the final destination in order to escape and finish it successfully.

Without a time limit, you could conceivably relatively easily achieve all these additional 'bonuses' (whatever) before heading to the extraction point for the final battle, but with the time limit, it becomes more a matter of choosing a course of action so as to lessen the possibility of dying while trying, not to mention making it more challenging.

I personally have found it to be a whole lot more fun now that I've built up my character with skills and all the stuff that comes with crafting.

Is it the best way to go about it? Probably not, but it is what it is.
And it's not CoD, not by any stretch of the imagination, because it's all still basically open world and you're not committed to any action or any battle if you don't want to be, aside from the last battle of course.

Some people will like it, some will hate it. I've decided that I like it, and I'm not going to argue about why they did what they did or how it could have been better. I'm just going to accept that this is what they did, and I'm gonna beat it.

[vonbleak]

Also for me the name wes a bit of mis-info having the word 'prison' in it. I have not played it, but i watched a few vids and i was uh ok so where is the prison? I thought you would start locked in some massive multi level facility, an actual prison - and have to sneak and worm your way through, doing stealth take downs and actually breaking out of a prison...and that would be awesome to me, and it would make the time limit make sense too...there is 30 mins before you are noticed out of your cell and the alarms all go off and the prison goes into major lock down - the end.

I am sure its still going to be a bit of fun - but its totally not what i was expecting at all... :)

[Søn of Jøn]

Originally posted by vonbleak:

Also for me the name wes a bit of mis-info having the word 'prison' in it. I have not played it, but i watched a few vids and i was uh ok so where is the prison? I thought you would start locked in some massive multi level facility, an actual prison - and have to sneak and worm your way through, doing stealth take downs and actually breaking out of a prison...and that would be awesome to me, and it would make the time limit make sense too...there is 30 mins before you are noticed out of your cell and the alarms all go off and the prison goes into major lock down - the end.

I am sure its still going to be a bit of fun - but its totally not what i was expecting at all... :)

There are some hints as to that in what Pagan Min is saying at the very beginning of it...

It seems to be occurring at a previous time in the game, I guess in an alternate timeline, after Yuma attempted to hold you at the prison that you had to escape from, and now you're on your way to the extraction point...

Which also sort of addresses bluz74's comments above about how it doesn't fit with the FC 4 story...

[sphera]

Where's our achievement for making the extraction successfully?

[Nite69]

I agree with Cursed, escape from Durgesh is just a modified version of the North Section of the map with a time limit, all the misions are the same as you get in the main game just in a different location, huge disapointment

and yea the timer I hate, not gonna play it until someone does a mod or something to freeze it or disable it

also what Vonbleak said above ^^^ is what I was expecting too.

[Søn of Jøn]

Originally posted by sphera:

Where's our achievement for making the extraction successfully?

Your achievement is that you completed it with monitor and keyboard intact and not smashed into little pieces strewn about the floor.

[sphera]

No, I had to buy a whole new computer after not being able to activate this on Steam, remember? ;-)