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Does It Make Sense? *Small Spoiler*
So both Sabal and Amita tell AJ that Lakshmana is likely a temple or shrine in the North. Now, Amita confirms this saying it is a clear difference between the North and South map. However, there are plenty of shrines and temples in the South. So either an oversight by the writers or Sabal and Amita are carefully manipulating AJ to fight to the North, using Lakshmana as a carrot on a stick. We know for sure that Sabal and Amita are highly manipulative and are obviously manipulating AJ the entire way for their own personal goals. Writer logic fail or writing genius? What say ye?
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BioFringe Dec 13, 2023 @ 7:00pm 
Carrot on the Stick.
PsychoBunny Dec 14, 2023 @ 5:27am 
They knew and used it to get what they wanted from AJ. There was a small second where Sabal looked a bit odd when Lakshmana was mentioned. I had a feeling something was not right. Everyone wanted to help AJ but only AFTER he did their bidding.

It took a while to get the ending I wanted because frankly Amita and Sabal are twits and don't need to lead anything.

Second time around I just waited for Pagan at the table in the beginning. Took a few minutes but was the ending I wanted. Pagan never lied to AJ. Nice easter egg. Love this guy and wished there would have been a way to fight for him. :)
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HandsomeFrank Dec 14, 2023 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by BioFringe:
Carrot on the Stick.

Maybe.
HandsomeFrank Dec 14, 2023 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
They knew and used it to get what they wanted from AJ. There was a small second where Sabal looked a bit odd when Lakshmana was mentioned. I had a feeling something was not right. Everyone wanted to help AJ but only AFTER he did their bidding.

It took a while to get the ending I wanted because frankly Amita and Sabal are twits and don't need to lead anything.

Second time around I just waited for Pagan at the table in the beginning. Took a few minutes but was the ending I wanted. Pagan never lied to AJ. Nice easter egg. Love this guy and wished there would have been a way to fight for him. :)

LOL! It seems Sabal is legitimately thinking though. Same with Amita. That's why I wondered if this was a writing logic issue. However, they could've been for real on Lakshmana, thinking it was a shrine or temple, but thinking, "hey I'll use that to keep him fighting until we find it." Maybe.

Dude, no way. Pagan Min, though he is honest with AJ, because he does sincerely care about AJ, due to the family entanglement, he is still a murderous dictator. My favorite ending is help Sabal. Because returning the country to its roots is better than a drug state. Even though they are both extremely evil in process. I let Amita go and lie to Sabal, because Amita does care about her country and people, but she will just cause huge problems in the long run. That kind of state will just get invaded 20 years later anyway by a coalition of countries. And then I let Pagan Min reveal Lakshmana, then I go outside and shut shoot down Pagan's helicopter. LOL! Winning all around! But Amita is right, Kyrat is doomed anyway it goes. AJ just needs to plant the ashes and GET T F OUT! Since AJ seems like a pretty decent guy and has some basic morality and ethics as seen in his dialogue quite a bit. However, I don't know, I kind of wish you could just join Longinus. Even if he is kind of crazy, at least he is redemptive and honest about his crimes and he is traveling the world to make things right.

Great games and like in the real world, everyone has their own agenda for "right and wrong." And no one is ever 100% right or good in the FC games.
PsychoBunny Dec 15, 2023 @ 5:19am 
I went with Sabal as well but you do know his intent is to marry Bhadra right? She is just a child but it makes him a god in Kyrat's eyes. So after he treated me like dirt the last few times I saw him and after what I saw him doing at the temple in front of Bhadra I killed him, problem solved! :) Bhadra is free and I can go back to America and just chill! :)

But you are correct there is rarely a "right or wrong" way to go in games. Just pick your poison and do the best you can with it.
HandsomeFrank Dec 15, 2023 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
I went with Sabal as well but you do know his intent is to marry Bhadra right? She is just a child but it makes him a god in Kyrat's eyes. So after he treated me like dirt the last few times I saw him and after what I saw him doing at the temple in front of Bhadra I killed him, problem solved! :) Bhadra is free and I can go back to America and just chill! :)

But you are correct there is rarely a "right or wrong" way to go in games. Just pick your poison and do the best you can with it.

Yeah I forgot about Bhadra. Well spoken, Sir. However, I don't think Sabal is a pedo. He's doing it for tradition and ceremony and as you mentioned, a likely power grab. Sabal is the type who will install himself as new king and have like 30 wives. As he mentions over and over, he wants to have AJ "at his side." Like a general, even though AJ is doing all the work. And as the son of Mohan Ghale and Ishwari, if Golden Path wins, technically speaking, AJ would be rightful heir to be leader and king. What can I say? Kyrat is based on Nepal, both countries are doomed. LOL. However, Kyrat could technically turn itself into a country like Bhutan, which is relatively successful for being a closed off hermit kingdom. One of the rare countries in the real world that isolates itself and exists in peace, in and out of its borders. Very traditional, very old school. So if Sabal can guide it into a Bhutan type of country, it could work.
PsychoBunny Dec 16, 2023 @ 6:26am 
Yeah I doubt Sabal was a pedo but the old ways sucked. I think Amita was married out at six so I understand why she didn't want Sabal to lead but what she did to Bhadra ..... well my main goal was to save that poor kid and I guess I did that in the only way the game would let me. :) AJ did what he could and went back to his original home to smoke wacky weed with his new neighbors and forget about the chaos going on down the mountain! :)
HandsomeFrank Dec 16, 2023 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
Yeah I doubt Sabal was a pedo but the old ways sucked. I think Amita was married out at six so I understand why she didn't want Sabal to lead but what she did to Bhadra ..... well my main goal was to save that poor kid and I guess I did that in the only way the game would let me. :) AJ did what he could and went back to his original home to smoke wacky weed with his new neighbors and forget about the chaos going on down the mountain! :)

Yeah, Amita can be pure evil. She legit cares about her country and people, but is super evil in doing so. I mean, it's no different than Pagan Min in a way. If you listen to Northern Kyrati, they actually love Pagan Min. Pagan does care a bit, but obviously super evil in doing so. It makes you wonder what they do to Paul. He's locked in a cage in Banapur, but what happens to him when Golden Path wins completely? LOL. Poor, poor Ashley, she will just have to listen to that annoying song without a father. And she will never get that golden necklace. LOL.
-=SOF=-WID99 Dec 16, 2023 @ 10:20am 
did you guys miss the end for each rebel leader

after you deal with pagan that is ...

also depending on who leads the golden path it changes the end game out come for the people of Kyrat.

and the end cutscene you get

if you choose Amita go to Tirtha in the south

if you choose Sabal go to Jenlendu temple in the north

and really the only way to play every mission of the game you have to play it at least twice

once following sabal

once following Amita

as yes the mission are different as is the outcome for Kyrat
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HandsomeFrank Dec 16, 2023 @ 10:26am 
Actually I never went back to Sabal in Jalendu. Still have not seen that, but I will see it soon. But I did see Amita in Tirtha.
HandsomeFrank Dec 16, 2023 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:
did you guys miss the end for each rebel leader

after you deal with pagan that is ...

also depending on who leads the golden path it changes the end game out come for the people of Kyrat.

and the end cutscene you get

if you choose Amita go to Tirtha in the south

if you choose Sabal go to Jenlendu temple in the north

and really the only way to play every mission of the game you have to play it at least twice

once following sabal

once following Amita

as yes the mission are different as is the outcome for Kyrat

Yes, just saw the Sabal Jalendu ending. Still convinced Sabal is the better option. He does have a point in killing Amita's followers. They would have just become incredibly evil drug enforcers like a cartel. So, Sabal is still the better choice. However, I don't like how they just end things and you can not talk to Bhadra.
wolfwarrior Jan 5, 2024 @ 5:24am 
Cant you just shoot Aimta/Sabal after getting the ending? I'd probrably be the best option, its not like you did all the work liberating outpost after outpost and fortresses, and are a legitimated offspring of the original leader of the rebelion and actually inheritor of the throne. Who the ♥♥♥♥ is gonna question you after carrying their asses on your back.
HandsomeFrank Jan 6, 2024 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by wolfwarrior:
Cant you just shoot Aimta/Sabal after getting the ending? I'd probrably be the best option, its not like you did all the work liberating outpost after outpost and fortresses, and are a legitimated offspring of the original leader of the rebelion and actually inheritor of the throne. Who the ♥♥♥♥ is gonna question you after carrying their asses on your back.

Hmmmm, yeah I think so. When I sided with Amita just to see her end, I think I shot her when she revealed how evil she was. ANd yeah you are right, technically the kingdom belongs to Ajay by family and blood and then also by being the one who did everything, which all the fighters and people know. Two things, Min's supporters would back him because Min wanted him to be king anyway and they likely knew that, and the fighters would support him because he essentially was the lead revolutionary fighter. So Ajay would actually be the one to unite the country if he became king.
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wolfwarrior Jan 6, 2024 @ 1:24pm 
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Hmmmm, yeah I think so. When I sided with Amita just to see her end, I think I shot her when she revealed how evil she was. ANd yeah you are right, technically the kingdom belongs to Ajay by family and blood and then also by being the one who did everything, which all the fighters and people know. Two things, Min's supporters would back him because Min wanted him to be king anyway and they likely knew that, and the fighters would support him because he essentially was the lead revolutionary fighter. So Ajay would actually be the one to unite the country if he became king. [/quote]

Right? I dont know if that what happens, but its my headcannon if you decide to do that.
Last edited by wolfwarrior; Jan 6, 2024 @ 1:24pm
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