Any way to improve fps?

[Standie]

So I just started Far Cry 4 and the frame rate has me puzzled. Not only is it much lower than I expected (it easily drops to 30 and sometimes lower), but it barely changes based on my settings. When I put everything to the very lowest, I may get 42 frames per second in a certain area looking at a certain direction. If I change my settings to very high, it all looks much better, yet the framerate changes to 41. Changing it to ultra will give me around 40. So while the graphical differences are night and day, the performance is practically the same. Can anyone explain this? May there be some tweaks that can get me a more stable experience (50-60 fps)?

I'm using a Lenovo 50-70.
CPU: Ci7-4720HQ
Ram: 8GB
GPU: GF GTX 960M (2GB)

Oh and I tested it at 720p. The Witcher 3 ran fine with 50-60 fps and mostly high settings. Same with AC: Unity.

[ahdvcarey]

have you tried changing the settings? make wverything lower first in the settings, quality wise

[Roy0441]

ur using a labtop. this game is very demanding. look at my specs. I get drops to 51 at worst on ultra.

[Gin51]

Install Geforce experience and let its choose whats the best for your machine...

[-=SOF=-WID99]

Originally posted by -FDinasty- Gin:

Install Geforce experience and let its choose whats the best for your machine...

lol i did that once .. and my game crashed like a drunk hooker on crak riding a unicycle

best way is reduce your settings for AA and ambient occusion
SMAA will take less of a Hit on your frame rates same with lowering a few detail settings
and not enabling the Nvidia Hairworks ...and also do not use Soft shadows set shadows to high or ultra .. that setting alone can make a huge impact on your frame rate and geforce Experince may auto enable it as well as the other Nvidia Gameworks features that may cause issiues on Laptop GPU's

remember a laptop GPU is never as fast or = the same as its desktop counterpart

Laptop GPU's usually run at a lower clockspeed / memory speed / and have less of a vertex and pixel shader counts (cuda cores) and memory bandwidth of the desktop counterpart
this is usually due to heat and power requirements the GPU needs

as you can see here

a desktop version of the GTX 960
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-960/specifications

vs here is the GTX 960 M
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-960m/specifications

and there is quite a difference between the two ...

Roy said it correctly Far Cry 4 is a very Demanding title

[Standie]

Guys, as I already said I have put the settings at the absolute lowest at a low resolution and the frame-rate still drops very low. This means I have turned off everything that can be turned off (including AA and put everything to the lowest). Even if it is a very demanding title, it does not make sense that the frame-rate stays roughly the same with very high settings (AA on, very high details, etc).

I know what my laptop card is capable of. I can run The Witcher 3 just fine, even though that game has higher requirements than Far Cry 4.

If I run any new game, the frame rate difference between the lowest graphical settings and the highest settings are huge. If I put The Witcher 3 on the lowest settings, I easily get a steady 60 frames per second. If I put everything on ultra, I get about 20 frames per second. In Far Cry 4, if I put everything on the lowest settings I can get an (unstable) average of 42 frames per second. If I put the game on ultra settings, I get an (equally unstable) average of 40 frames per second. That does not make any sense. Other games don't work like that.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

other games do not use the Modified Dunia 2 engine Far Cry 4 uses
your not gonna pull 60 FPS out of a single GTX 960 ..even if you had a factory overclocked desktop version in Far Cry 4

i run the witcher 3 just fine too on my ASUS Strix GTX 960 on high settings
with a lower resolution ..you have to also remember the witcher 3 had a special driver released just or that game

here is what i use for FC 4... i'm sticking with the Nvidia driver 347.52 as thats the last one that even mentioned any performance increase for Far Cry 4
my settings without Geforce Experience installed are

res 1920 X 1080
vsync - on - off - does not seem make any impact on my FPS since i use a 60 HZ 40 inch HD Tv as my monitor via HDMI out from my GPU

quality settings
motion blur off - not a fan of it ..
Textures - Ultra
Shadows - High
Post FX -Ultra
Geometry - Very High
Vegetation- Ultra
Environment - Ultra
water - Ultra
ambient occusion setting is SSBC
and useing SMAA for Antialising

god rays - off- not a fan of how it looks
fur - off
trees relief -off

in advanced settings
triple buffer - off
Vsync mode - normal

and i'm getting about 40 to 50 FPS at best with some area's drop to the high 30's

but i am Gimped as i run an old Intel Q6600 Core 2 quad? ..so that leads me to belive this game does not need very much CPU .....as it rely's more on GPU power

and i see little to no difference in Far Cry 4 by changeing any of my settings other then add higher AA and upping ambient settings .. i do see a frame rate decrease
and have never seen it hit 60 FPS constant ..to do that i think you'd need Sli'd GTX 970's 980's or a GTX 980 Ti

if your getting 40 ish FPS thats probably all your GPU can handle

remember your running a 960 M MAXWELL gpu thats = to half of a GTX 980
and the laptop versions of the GTX 960 are not as powerful as the desktop version
as i posted link to each for comparison

this page should give you an idea on how hard Far Cry 4 is even on modern GPU's
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/01/07/far_cry_4_video_card_performance_review/#.VbKFxflViko


this game is alot harder on a GPU then other titles

[-=SOF=-WID99]

oh and one other setting you may want to check is open Nvidia control panel

select manage 3 d settings

select the global tab

make sure Power Mangement Mode is set to prefer Maximum performance

not balanced .....since you are useing a laptop GPU

[Standie]

Thanks for the responses. I'm still very confused at why a game's performance wouldn't change when turning settings down and off. To make things even weirder, changing the resolution doesn't change the frame rate either! Changing the resolution has always been the most logical way for an easy frame rate boost. However, Far Cry 4 keeps the exact same frame rate in 720p as it does in 1080p. Can anyone who has the game say if it's any different for them? This is just so illogical.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

it may have to do with the fact we both use GTX 960's that have half the shaders as well as memory bandwidth of a GTX 980

so up to 1080 P our cards are not struggling since they have and share similar architechure of the maxwell chips that are used on the GTX 970 & 980 ..and there may be a limiting factor as well as to our lower clock speeds of our CPU's.... yours is 2.6 ghz to 3.6 turbo mode
http://ark.intel.com/products/78934/Intel-Core-i7-4720HQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz
maybe its not kicking into turbo mode ?

mines running at 2.4 Ghz lol.... i was scared the night i bought he game that it was not gonna work on my old Core 2 Quad Q6600 at all .. i mean the CPU is 7 yrs old ..so is my motherboard ..figured hell i can overclock on air to 3.0 GHZ easy with my Asus P5 B motherboard ..i never had to ..

i did have two other vid cards in tho since the game launched ..
at first i only had a Sapphire HD7750 1 gig card in .. could not play with any settings higher then medium and with a max res of 1600 X 900
so in middle of December i bought an Asus AMD 270 X 2 gig card ..got it up to 1080 P but any settings higher then medium to a medium high mix or it would stutter ..an AMD driver support at the time ...well ....SUCKED ..

so i put in the GTX 960 in March i guess (might have been early April) ..and i posted the settings i'm useing with it ..?
played thru the game 8 times now with no crashes

[D'Harhan]

As said, set your graphics to the lowest. Then slowly up the settings until you have acceptable FPS vs. Quality

[-=SOF=-WID99]

Yea D Harhan but i see what he is saying that changeing the settings with even my GTX 960 does not make a noted difference in FPS

i did see a difference when i had my AMD GPU's in ..and the GTX 960 even at 40 FPS is acceptable to me ..looks good on my 40 in HD tv screen

he may notice it a bit more on a laptop screen that he's not getting 60 FPS ..but really i doubt a single GTX 960 can do 60 FPS with this game ..and he has the M version

my card is not breaking a sweat with the game...have not seen my GPU temp go much above 50 C yet

but i cant go higher then 1920 X 1080 (1080 p )

with my monitor setup as thats the max res both my Acer 24 in monitor and my TV max out at

and who knows it may just be the way the Nvidia drivers work with Far Cry 4 and the GTX 960 series
and maybe windows 10 and Direct X 12 will work better once its released with better drivers

[D'Harhan]

I do the same running it through my TV. Having my resolution at 1152x648 however I have my refresh on all games set to a lower 29-30hz.

And just to say:

I see a lot of people with powerful computers that would use mine to wipe their backsides with having problems. Yet for some reason I do not have any trouble other that a missing barrel on the .44 Magnum if I add a scope to it.

All my settings are a mishaps mix of High to Ultra High And I lower the settings a bit if I play co-op.

[Standie]

Thanks guys. Far Cry 4 is the only game so far that performed this weirdly, but I guess I can't do much about it.

I was indeed planning to wait on Windows 10 to see if the game runs a little better. From what I understand, DirectX12 won't change anything because a game needs to be programmed for it. Windows 10 does supposedly give games a minor boost in fps.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

yea i cant run at that low of a res on my TV ..i have to choose 720 P or 1080 P
and my refresh rate on the TV is locked @ 60 .. monitor is the same and i dont plan on changeing it
as i dont have an issiue with how the game looks or runs on my system @ 1080 P

at the resolution your running @ 1152 X 648 is not a standard HD resolution

nor is it supported by my monitor or my Tv

[-=SOF=-WID99]

Originally posted by Understandout:

Thanks guys. Far Cry 4 is the only game so far that performed this weirdly, but I guess I can't do much about it.

I was indeed planning to wait on Windows 10 to see if the game runs a little better. From what I understand, DirectX12 won't change anything because a game needs to be programmed for it. Windows 10 does supposedly give games a minor boost in fps.

yea and who knows what the Nvidia drivers will look like with windows 10 .. i know i'm looking forward to it .. for my laptop anyway ..as it sucks with win 8.1
dunno why but i hate that OS

dont think i'll jump to win 10 right away on my desktop ..i may just pick up a new hard disk
install win 7 home premm 64 bit upgrade that with my ultimate edition upgrade DVD and try WIN 10 on that ..but really i need to build a new system for myself

this Q6600 and DDR2 ram is getting long in the tooth

plus with windows 10 it will supposedly allow you to share vid card ram..i e you can install an AMD GPU and an Nvidia one
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/43347/geforce-radeon-gpus-soon-combine-vram-thanks-dx12-mantle/index.html