How to approach Varshakot outpost.

[boeriemore]

The game suggests doing this in coop.
I have tried on my own a couple of times.
Each time I first kill the two snipers. I move to the top of the hill overlooking their fortress.
Using rockets I blow up the three choppers, no problem, yet I continue to die.
From somewhere mortars are fired at me, the area is ablaze, explosions each time I move closer
to get a grenade shot on those below.
I want to try another approach. Surely If I entered their fortress undetected and went into a room or climbed onto a roof I could take them all out without worrying about them using carpet bombing / mortars as this would damage their fortress.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

try the water entrance from the other side

there is an under water cave \\watch the mine feilds , just took the outpost... undected no alarms , used only silent weapons

the mortor posts are on the North and south walls by the snipers get to one and use it if you have to

[Poppi !!]

Yeah Barry, that ones tricky. You get detected almost immediately after the first kill. Gotta get on the ground and get the " wet work " done.

A tip: A chopper will also go down with a solid hit from a flaming arrow ( or two ).

[boeriemore]

Originally posted by _StanleyTweedle_:

Yeah Barry, that ones tricky. You get detected almost immediately after the first kill. Gotta get on the ground and get the " wet work " done.

A tip: A chopper will also go down with a solid hit from a flaming arrow ( or two ).

Tricky indeed. One rocket blows up a chopper. But the mortars are what kills me every time.
If I climb down into the alley between the wall and a building I may have a better chance and choppers would surely not be able to fire at me, nor the mortars.

[Poppi !!]

Trial and error sir. You'll find a way that works for you.
Did you find WID99's water entrance ? Be sure to try that too.

[boeriemore]

Originally posted by _StanleyTweedle_:

Trial and error sir. You'll find a way that works for you.
Did you find WID99's water entrance ? Be sure to try that too.

I have just been trying a number of times. I even found a underwater cave leading into the fortress. The closest I got to success was while hidden from view on the roof. Shooting out two alarms with my silenced sniper was easy. I then started knocking off one at a time then when two choppers arrived I easily took them out with an exploding arrow.
Once the heavies started climbing onto the roof that is when I died as nothing seems to kill them.
Each time I started over they seemed to climb onto the roof quicker each time, like they remember from my previous attempt.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

use your molotovs on heavy guys .. they cook up nice and crispy

fire arrows will also do the job

or a headshot with your sniper rifle

[Poppi !!]

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

use your molotovs on heavy guys .. they cook up nice and crispy

fire arrows will also do the job

or a headshot with your sniper rifle

Absolutely. All of the above.
Then grapple down through the hole in the top and mop up the stragglers.

[boeriemore]

Originally posted by _StanleyTweedle_:

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

use your molotovs on heavy guys .. they cook up nice and crispy

fire arrows will also do the job

or a headshot with your sniper rifle

Absolutely. All of the above.
Then grapple down through the hole in the top and mop up the stragglers.

Success at last. I first got onto the roof unseen after shooting the two snipers then took out two alarms. I then left and walked around away from the fortress to the river then swam through the cave then climbed up the ladder into the fortress. I went into an upper room but this time was equipped with my grenade launcher. I let off a few grenades and ran to the alley between the wall and building. I stood in the centre and as someone approached at either end I blasted them, heavies included, with my grenade launcher. Two choppers arrived and my grenade launcher took care of them. The last man standing was about two meters from me and I stupidly used a granade on him almost killing myself in the process which would have meant starting all over again. Over two hours but eventual success.

[Poppi !!]

Congats !

[-=SOF=-WID99]

now to take noors fort .. ..if you think Varkashot was hard ..wait till ya try hers

look for a secret way in again ..use the side entrance on the left you'll find a cave ..take out 1 alrm .run away ... . go up on top of the mointain youll come to a grapple point .. grapple down slowly into the fort and find the ledges ,swing over on one ,take out another alarm ..snipe the baddies from the ledge up top .. slide down the rope sneak up and take out the guy by the alarm up front by the mortor .. use fire arrows and your sniper rifle to take the whole thing undetected ..no alarms

yuma's fort is much harder ..pagan mins fort .. is the hardest one of all , but can be done easily if you use the right tactics

[boeriemore]

Originally posted by -=SOF=-WID99:

now to take noors fort .. ..if you think Varkashot was hard ..wait till ya try hers

look for a secret way in again ..use the side entrance on the left you'll find a cave ..take out 1 alrm .run away ... . go up on top of the mointain youll come to a grapple point .. grapple down slowly into the fort and find the ledges ,swing over on one ,take out another alarm ..snipe the baddies from the ledge up top .. slide down the rope sneak up and take out the guy by the alarm up front by the mortor .. use fire arrows and your sniper rifle to take the whole thing undetected ..no alarms

yuma's fort is much harder ..pagan mins fort .. is the hardest one of all , but can be done easily if you use the right tactics

Sounds great. Maybe she will let me be her friend?

[boeriemore]

Originally posted by _StanleyTweedle_:

Congats !

Something which confuses me. Hidden on the roof I can understand the enemy knowing I am present as soon as they find a dead body. At one stage I was taking out one person at a time but they never knew where I was and did not climb onto the roof.
After dying and restarting a few times they quickly knew where I was. How come? when I was using the bow and suppressed sniper rifle? I can only assume that if the first shot does not kill then by having to shoot again is what provides them with my location.

[Poppi !!]

Absolutely~ ~ you miss one headshot and have to take a second, they know right where you are.

Alternatively, as they become alerted, then more " agitated ", you'll hear them yelling " Search the area, look everywhere, find the killer ! ". The A.I. will send enemies to canvas the entire area within the yellow zone of the fort.

If your not well hidden or moving away ( flanking or repositioning ) from their approach, they will likely find your position. Then you get them all after you.

Tip: First and foremost ~ Patience.
Scout the area first and mark as many enemies as you can with the camera. Unlike the Hunting syringe, you can permanently see their location and track their movements to avoid detection or for stealth kills. I like to use distraction to lure one at a time away from the others and kill them ( works well ). At least you can thin the ranks enough to mop up the remaining soldiers or if you've destroyed the alarms and stealth is working well, go for an undetected liberation.

[bgray9054]

Every fortress has a secret entrance. I usually find a way to sneak in and treat it like any other base camp - take out the alarms and snipe everyone else in the head. :)

[-=SOF=-WID99]

Originally posted by bgray9054:

Every fortress has a secret entrance. I usually find a way to sneak in and treat it like any other base camp - take out the alarms and snipe everyone else in the head. :)

me too but i try to be sneaky too and chuck a few mines around for FUN