Having RubberBand Lag Issues?

[PostalGamerDude]

Feel like demons be teleporting you all over the place? Set the frame rate limiter to 30 and the monitor refresh rate to 30 as well, bam what, the game now runs flawlessly! Set those visual settings as high as they go and enjoy a historic gaming classic in all its glory!

[LoliNoxTan]

Pfft. Running at 30fps
How very cinematic of you

(30fps is ok-ish with a controller but horrible with KB/M)

[PostalGamerDude]

Dude, it's either that or the game lags and bugs out... Sigh, the dead will always use negativity to try and bring the living to their level. All you are doing is moaning over nothing, legit nothing, I came here to help anyone having issues like I did and you came to try and hurt someone's feelings. Just because I am happy, nice and kind, does not make me weak. You are nothing more than a school yard bully, you have no life, enjoying games, having fun, being kind, that is having a life. If you are in pain, why not punch up? Oh, I see you just want to hurt people, it is not about using that pain for a greater purpose, it is just about sharing your pain with the world. I admit, I had had moments like you, but I only took it out on people who were hurting others, or being selfish douche nozzles. If you chose to be an agent of darkness, it will consume and decay what little life you have left, but hey, you do you buddy.

[c0Zm1c]

I found it happens if I disabled vsync and the framerate went too high. It seems it has trouble handling super high framerates? But at 60fps it was fine.

[Metal]

Originally posted by c0Zm1c:

I found it happens if I disabled vsync and the framerate went too high. It seems it has trouble handling super high framerates? But at 60fps it was fine.

Running at 144fps, 0 lag. I play on prety old pc.

[c0Zm1c]

Originally posted by Metal:

Originally posted by c0Zm1c:

I found it happens if I disabled vsync and the framerate went too high. It seems it has trouble handling super high framerates? But at 60fps it was fine.

Running at 144fps, 0 lag. I play on prety old pc.

It might depend on ping too I guess. I haven't played in over a year though so they might have fixed it since then.

Edit: that said I think the framerate I had when I experienced it was higher than 144fps (200+).

[PostalGamerDude]

That is all well and good, but if you had issues like I did, 30 is the golden number. Some older games have issues with higher frame rates, the best fix is to limit them to 30 which is what they were built to run at. 30 to 60 fps is really not that noticeable, and higher frame rates really do not make games like guild wars any better. If you have issues my fix works, if you can play at higher frame rates and that matters to you, then by all means enjoy. Personally, I think it is quite silly to post stuff that is not relevant to the discussion. I find it really cute, that instead of just stating, this fix may work for someone, everyone is just out to ignore that for some, your 60 fps means bad latency issues and unstable gameplay. Can some pcs run the game at higher rates, yes, PC gaming is weird, some have issues, some have games that run perfectly with no work. I came to help those having that issue, and yet you all just want to act like I am wrong... Sheesh, no wonder people stop trying to be good or helpful, all you people wanna do is burst bubbles out of sadness.

All I wanna do is help people have a good time, all you want to do is push elitism. Oh look I can play at higher rates, that is so good for you, I was not talking to you, I was talking to those who might return or not try GW, becasue they see people teleporting around and having major lag. I nearly gave up on a really special childhood game, because I read from some that the lag issues were part of the game and there was nothing to be done. I looked online further and there were a few buried posts where people said the frame rate could cause an issue, I set up my game, tested it, and reported in a fun positive way, how to fix the same issue I was having if it is happening to you. But, instead of ignoring the post, you all want to act elite and also, try and make me look wrong, when there is no wrong.

It is wrong to act like the game works on higher frame rates, for some people, I did the tests and found the perfect fix for some people, the game runs smoother at this rate for me, on a high-end machine btw, so that was never the issue, it was the fact that a lot of old games, were never meant to run at those high frame rates, forcing 1080 is one thing, but for some games, forcing or enabling higher frame rates will bug those games out big time.

P.S if you run into constant negativity as I do, do not be discouraged, remember your training, our gaming lives taught us enemies and obstacles mean you are doing the right thing.

P.P.S

Cozm1c Vsync did nothing either way for me, and ping has nothing to do with it. as I stated, this issue is caused in many old games, due to the frame rates being too high for games made to run at a max of 30fps, some games of the era and prior were able to go to 60 fps. But the standard from 1998 to 2008ish was around 30 fps, again standard, we all know PC elites pushed things further, but we are talking standards and the rates the games were designed to be played at. Higher than 60 fps, really does nothing, if you prefer it, cool, but 30 fps is still a really good way to play games. Yes, even shooters, good luck getting things like Blood 2 to run on any rate higher than 60 and, if you want a smooth issue-free ride from most games, 30 is the golden rule. I tried 60 on GW and the game still had me teleporting all over the place, it also made the game's frame rate look worse due to lag, and buggy visuals. Is this the case for everyone? Should you try 60 or higher, sure! IF it works out the box, I am so happy for you, I am not trying to suggest the game must be played this way, only if you are having issues.

I also like to point out, that a bug-free smooth gaming experience at 30 fps, is a way better time than thinking 60 or higher really makes a farting difference. Again, if you have no issues, cool, but this post is not to tell you how to run the game, it is telling you how you can fix an issue if you have one like I did. Love my Ohana, have a great one, Peace Out Homies!

[c0Zm1c]

That's an unusually defensive response and quite misinformed too - Guild Wars wasn't specifically designed to run at a maximum 30fps because if it was then everyone trying to run it at a higher framerate than that would be experiencing problems too, which isn't the case.

As I said I experienced this with vsync disabled, where the framerate is then uncapped and would run into triple digits - it is quite possible that, with the client running so fast it gets out of sync with the server. I think that's a plausible explanation. Why you specifically have to cap it to 30fps I don't know but given that I've never heard of anyone having to do that before with Guild Wars I'm going to assume it's something wrong on your end.

[PostalGamerDude]

How cute, like I said before, you want to assume I am wrong, instead of thinking some PCs run differently. You also are lying, games of the era were made to run at 30 fps! That was teh standard until 2008ish... Geezs, you really like trying to pick on people, don't you? I knew you were not being kind in your response, as you were insisting I was wrong, I said and I quote, if you have no issues at those FR, that is cool, but if you do this could fix it.

You instead of seeing that maybe, just maybe some might have the same issue and that does not mean we are wrong, or doing something wrong, or have a bad PC. Your response was hostile, to begin with, you just tried to act as if you were not outright saying I was wrong. I was simply offering a fix, and instead of offering other fixes, and stating that yes, sometimes some people need different fixes for various reasons, you try to make it seem like I did something wrong or offered a bad solution.

That is straight-up silly, stupid, and juvenile. Also, you are spreading lies about game design from that era, while some games were made to run at various frame rates in that time, the standard was 30, very few games were optimized or designed to run at 60 until around 2008, some started earlier, but really it was not common or the standard until a few years after GW. Furthermore, GW was designed to run on less powerful PCs of it's day, as a direct result of EQ and WOW having huge requirements again, for their day, due to this, it is not a stretch to think GW was made or optimized for lower frame rates thus causing issues.

Everyone running at higher rates is not using the same builds, same brands and also, could just have issues for unknown reasons, computers have funny issues here and there. Yet, instead of seeing again, my effort to try and help those, with my issue, you say that my issue is me, that I did something wrong... Yea, that won't fly, I know more about gaming and PCs, than you and also, I do not reply to people's posts offering help to others, just to try and shame them.

In short, I do not care what you say or think, if your solution helps people, that makes me happy, if mine helps that makes me happy, so long as people are gaming I am happy. So long as I can put shamers like you in their place, I am happy. Good Day Sir, Mam or whatever you Wish To Be.

[c0Zm1c]

I feel like I'm being trolled here. I mean, how exactly was my first reply in this thread hostile?

[PostalGamerDude]

I do not need to repeat myself, you can read it above, and anyone else with a brain will see it too. Your nothing but an elitest jerkwad who tries to look like the nice guy while shaming someone, hostile and most of all, pathetic. I already explained in detail why, and you cannot argue against it, or you would have. Shame you made yourself look like a dumb dumb shaming loserpotilah.

[c0Zm1c]

Where precisely did I "shame" you? Are you somehow mistaking me for LoliNoxTan, who "pfft" at your 30fps?

Anyone else who reads your rant will see that you're kicking off about literally nothing.

[PostalGamerDude]

LMAO dude, you really going to play it like that? Really? We both know you were not being nice, or helpful, you just wanted to try and make me look wrong. You bring up Vsync and you know what, why not post that on your own post, or have made a post saying, if this soultion does not work, or whatever, do this. No, you both came here just to act like playing at 30 FPS is something wrong, that is so silly when we all know, and can google, that the industry standard for years! Was 30! 60 and higher looks nice, but does not affect gameplay at all. You both were ignoring that players other than yourselves might have issues like mine, and instead of being nice, kind good people with positive attitudes, you just want to come in here and try to act superior. There was no reason to comment in such a way that directly ignores my solution, while acting like there is no issue, maybe not for your hardware but for others they could have the same issue. Disabling or enabling Vsync is pretty common, you were not breaking ground, but instead trying to assert I was wrong. You could have said 30 or 60 does not matter, enjoy gaming or whatever, nope you wanted to dog pile with another elite douche. Get over it, also get under someone's car, while it is moving.

[c0Zm1c]

Please tell me how this...

Originally posted by c0Zm1c:

I found it happens if I disabled vsync and the framerate went too high. It seems it has trouble handling super high framerates? But at 60fps it was fine.

...is coming into the thread with an attitude? I merely stated what my experience was. I don't care if you think playing at 30fps is no different to playing at 60fps (I disagree but I don't care - you play at whatever framerate you want.) How you escalated this as much as you did is beyond me.

Edit: Hmm, I'm starting to think this might be Ratagain on an alt account. :\

[PostalGamerDude]

We both know your cosmic energy is nothing but negative, I do not care if anyone sees it, I do not care who believes it. I know you are nothing more than a negative, evil, douchebag. Have a good one.

[LoliNoxTan]

Originally posted by gamerguy1991:

How cute, like I said before, you want to assume I am wrong, instead of thinking some PCs run differently. You also are lying, games of the era were made to run at 30 fps! That was teh standard until 2008ish... Geezs, you really like trying to pick on people, don't you? I knew you were not being kind in your response, as you were insisting I was wrong, I said and I quote, if you have no issues at those FR, that is cool, but if you do this could fix it.

You instead of seeing that maybe, just maybe some might have the same issue and that does not mean we are wrong, or doing something wrong, or have a bad PC. Your response was hostile, to begin with, you just tried to act as if you were not outright saying I was wrong. I was simply offering a fix, and instead of offering other fixes, and stating that yes, sometimes some people need different fixes for various reasons, you try to make it seem like I did something wrong or offered a bad solution.

That is straight-up silly, stupid, and juvenile. Also, you are spreading lies about game design from that era, while some games were made to run at various frame rates in that time, the standard was 30, very few games were optimized or designed to run at 60 until around 2008, some started earlier, but really it was not common or the standard until a few years after GW. Furthermore, GW was designed to run on less powerful PCs of it's day, as a direct result of EQ and WOW having huge requirements again, for their day, due to this, it is not a stretch to think GW was made or optimized for lower frame rates thus causing issues.

Everyone running at higher rates is not using the same builds, same brands and also, could just have issues for unknown reasons, computers have funny issues here and there. Yet, instead of seeing again, my effort to try and help those, with my issue, you say that my issue is me, that I did something wrong... Yea, that won't fly, I know more about gaming and PCs, than you and also, I do not reply to people's posts offering help to others, just to try and shame them.

In short, I do not care what you say or think, if your solution helps people, that makes me happy, if mine helps that makes me happy, so long as people are gaming I am happy. So long as I can put shamers like you in their place, I am happy. Good Day Sir, Mam or whatever you Wish To Be.

I'm actually disappointed that I never subscribed to this thread. Games before 2008 weren't meant to run at over 60fps.... you do know that most PS2 games ran at 60fps right?

The switch to 30fps during the X360/PS3 (& early Xbone/PS4) era was because of the demand for "Mah graphics". Easier to sell a game to the masses on graphics. Ryse & Order 1886 are my go to examples of this