this game need a nerf for solo playing

[LordDarak]

like the tittle but i tink he also disappeared from steam store so : GAME IS DEAD

[kazerniel]

Why does it need nerf? You can solo play everything with heroes except the Factions elite missions where you can have 12-person parties, but only 7 heroes.

Btw it's still sold on Steam, they just connected all the various store pages to a single community hub:
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=ArenaNet%C2%AE

[meheezen]

^i am pretty sure you can solo Urgoz or the Deep with a 8-man party
you just need to bring the right skills to get past the rooms

[tracksone]

This game is incredibly easy solo especially when bringing heroes in, most people i know that are hardcore players in this game still, play solo with their custom party and they clear the hardest content, quickly

Most people PLAY it for the solo challenge.

[tracksone]

The only real difficulty solo is getting stuck on a quest thats not so clear, at times it can be tough getting the answer easily.

[Sunsetter]

Originally posted by tracksone:

This game is incredibly easy solo especially when bringing heroes in,

Weird; some were borderline impossible for me, so much so I had to cheese them. Maybe not bothering with upgraded armors for heroes had something to do with it...

[tracksone]

Originally posted by Samael:

Originally posted by tracksone:

This game is incredibly easy solo especially when bringing heroes in,

Weird; some were borderline impossible for me, so much so I had to cheese them. Maybe not bothering with upgraded armors for heroes had something to do with it...

Guild wars 1 is very tactical, which is why most gw 1 players hate 2, for instance. You gotta have a plan and know what youre gonna do rather than just running in head first. Theres a ton of amazing guides these days

By the way i wasnt insinuating that you suck. I too remember being furstrated at first when i got back into it but itl click eventually

[kazerniel]

Originally posted by Samael:

Originally posted by tracksone:

This game is incredibly easy solo especially when bringing heroes in,

Weird; some were borderline impossible for me, so much so I had to cheese them. Maybe not bothering with upgraded armors for heroes had something to do with it...

Yea, it's worth to get the proper runes and weapons on your heroes, though skill choices are more impactful.

Which missions did you have trouble with?

[meheezen]

Originally posted by tracksone:

Guild wars 1 is very tactical, which is why most gw 1 players hate 2, for instance.

i am in this comment, and i love it

as for the thread, you indeed need correct builds and gear for your heroes, it takes time to learn the AI and mechanics.
having spent more than 10k hours on this game, i can tell you that heroes are OP as hell.
i remember cleaning HM dungeons such as frostmaw in 50 minutes with a 6 hero party (me and 6 heroes, yes one less player for additional difficulty), a speed clear used to take 30 minutes if i recall correctly, and they used consets for improved speed and all

the skill gap between veterans and new players is large, most stuff you wont learn by reading guides.

[Sunsetter]

Originally posted by tracksone:

Guild wars 1 is very tactical, which is why most gw 1 players hate 2, for instance. You gotta have a plan and know what youre gonna do rather than just running in head first. Theres a ton of amazing guides these days

By the way i wasnt insinuating that you suck. I too remember being furstrated at first when i got back into it but itl click eventually

Never said you implied it; although to be fair, maybe I do suck, not sure XD
I'm actually the furthest thing from rushing in; I try to have a balanced team (tanks, dmg, heals,), I always try to trim surrounding enemies before the main ones, I kite if I can, I try to kill their heals first. That's part of the reason why I was surprised by the difficulties I had on some missions.

Originally posted by kazerniel:

Yea, it's worth to get the proper runes and weapons on your heroes, though skill choices are more impactful.

Which missions did you have trouble with?

Weapons and runes I did actually give them; I runed all their armor slots, and gave them at least purple weapons, some even gold and green. I was talking about the upgrades which you have at certain town where you collect armor parts to make new stuff for your heroes. Not sure how much they affect things.

I had 3-4 really difficult missions, mostly in Nightftall and Eye:

-The one with Shiro in Real of Torment; even by going through wiki, he was just dicing through my team in a few seconds (tried melee runes on heroes as well). In the end I had to cheese by trolling him near his agro boundary.
-The Varesh Ossa boss fight (where she resurrects); tried focusing her, tried focusing mobs, tried standing near the edge and then in center, nothing. In the end, I continued to Eye and returned after I picked up some dwarven skills from there and I think I managed (bugged?) toe exhaust her mobs somehow
-Some mission where you attacked a fort/camp and you had mobs coming down from the walls while you protected the battering ram. Again tried all the wiki advice, and I barely, BARELY, managed to save one ram only after respecing secondary monk all heals.
-The one with a giant worm where you had to manually carry explosives to damage him, my god that was hell. Trying to do that while trying to steer heroes away from his blasts, pure torture. and his regen was insane.
-Last Eye boss - fire runes on everyone + fire resistance skill on most + dwarven skill for extinguishing fire, and still I had to cheese my way through it.

Really dunno where my problems are, maybe I'm dont know how to play Para; I dont remember having any such problems with Proph and Factions, although those I played back when there were a lot of players.

[LordDarak]

personally i did first campaion and i endend and killed mr shiro, but i struck on abbadon and the destroyers, my party was good but is spawn like 15 mobs 8+ levels over me and i cannot achieve that i do it a lot of time unsucessfull, there are also other parts really harder for solo like the kurtzik turtle quest and some other, a little nerf in my opinion will be good

[kazerniel]

Originally posted by Samael:

Weapons and runes I did actually give them; I runed all their armor slots, and gave them at least purple weapons, some even gold and green. I was talking about the upgrades which you have at certain town where you collect armor parts to make new stuff for your heroes. Not sure how much they affect things.

The hero armour "upgrades" from various challenge missions are just for aesthetics and Hall of Monuments, they don't affect combat abilities.

Originally posted by Samael:

I had 3-4 really difficult missions, mostly in Nightftall and Eye:

-The one with Shiro in Real of Torment; even by going through wiki, he was just dicing through my team in a few seconds (tried melee runes on heroes as well). In the end I had to cheese by trolling him near his agro boundary.

It sounds like you're using melee heroes? That's generally a bad idea, try to focus on mesmers, necros and ritualists. (Monks if you don't have rits.)

I don't know if you're open to using a meta build or want to figure things out yourself, but this team[gwpvx.fandom.com] can tackle pretty much anything aside of elite areas. If you don't have the required heroes or skills, this guide[gwpvx.fandom.com] can help you get there.

Originally posted by Samael:

-The Varesh Ossa boss fight (where she resurrects); tried focusing her, tried focusing mobs, tried standing near the edge and then in center, nothing. In the end, I continued to Eye and returned after I picked up some dwarven skills from there and I think I managed (bugged?) toe exhaust her mobs somehow

With caster heroes I always just stick to the door, and lure her to me, so either none or very few of her adds attack my team.

Originally posted by Samael:

-Some mission where you attacked a fort/camp and you had mobs coming down from the walls while you protected the battering ram. Again tried all the wiki advice, and I barely, BARELY, managed to save one ram only after respecing secondary monk all heals.
-The one with a giant worm where you had to manually carry explosives to damage him, my god that was hell. Trying to do that while trying to steer heroes away from his blasts, pure torture. and his regen was insane.

Yeah, these ones can be annoying if you don't have mesmers to disable everyone and a Shelter+Unity ritualist to negate damage.

Originally posted by Samael:

-Last Eye boss - fire runes on everyone + fire resistance skill on most + dwarven skill for extinguishing fire, and still I had to cheese my way through it.

Yeah this was pretty annoying even with a meta team 😅 I barely managed to kill the boss before everyone burned to a crisp. But I don't think you should need to change runes for specific encounters, stick with the ones that fit your hero's build. If there are no good options, there's always Vitae or Attunement.

Originally posted by Samael:

Really dunno where my problems are, maybe I'm dont know how to play Para; I dont remember having any such problems with Proph and Factions, although those I played back when there were a lot of players.

Even if you don't play your profession efficiently, your heroes should do most of the heavy lifting. So I'd try to fix that before worrying about your own build. With a strong hero team in normal mode you can mostly just stroll around and pick up loot, they can easily handle all the combat.

[kazerniel]

Originally posted by LordDarak:

personally i did first campaion and i endend and killed mr shiro, but i struck on abbadon and the destroyers, my party was good but is spawn like 15 mobs 8+ levels over me and i cannot achieve that i do it a lot of time unsucessfull, there are also other parts really harder for solo like the kurtzik turtle quest and some other, a little nerf in my opinion will be good

Are you using a meta hero team? The Realm of Torment is kind of a pain in the arse even with a meta team, I imagine it's much worse without.

I cheesed Gyala Hatchery following the wiki's advice[wiki.guildwars.com], and did it backwards. It wasn't too bad that way, but you need to pull very carefully when there are a many groups in front of you.

[Scrubwave]

The difficulty is a curve. You'll have easier time with heroes than with bad random players. You'll also have a much easier time with experienced good player than even great heroes if only because of pve only skills.

[LordDarak]

Originally posted by kazerniel:

Originally posted by LordDarak:

personally i did first campaion and i endend and killed mr shiro, but i struck on abbadon and the destroyers, my party was good but is spawn like 15 mobs 8+ levels over me and i cannot achieve that i do it a lot of time unsucessfull, there are also other parts really harder for solo like the kurtzik turtle quest and some other, a little nerf in my opinion will be good

Are you using a meta hero team? The Realm of Torment is kind of a pain in the arse even with a meta team, I imagine it's much worse without.

I cheesed Gyala Hatchery following the wiki's advice[wiki.guildwars.com], and did it backwards. It wasn't too bad that way, but you need to pull very carefully when there are a many groups in front of you.

i tryed different kind of groups but my character is basiccaly a condition warrior i searched a meta pve for him, but my heroes are not built so are standard usually i go whit necros monks and some koss or jora, like 8 party : 2 melee war/dervish 3 necros like livia etc and 3 heal but all those are basic build and i fill heroes whit the not heroes. now if i continue i tink ill focus on makin a 8 meta party for pve and build the heroes

[Metal]

pvx is your friend.