This game needs a heavy Optimization pass.

[Phycorax]

I got a Ryzen 9 with a 1060. Dated hardware sure but no way a game of this level shouldnt run anything below 100 fps at 1080p.

[toumanibr]

fr, mine is 55 fps, while other heavy games i can get at least 120

[SadFrogster]

raytracing issues

[Oppenhimer]

its unreal engine 5. blame epic

[Jacobella]

Originally posted by Oppenhimer:

its unreal engine 5. blame epic

It was even more hilarious to me when I checked Nvidia Control Panel and found it preferred my iGPU for this game

You know, because UE5 is so undemanding

[MDK]

It doesn't help that none of the UE5 default options are manageable from the options menu.
I bet if you forced Lumen off, the game wouldn't have baked in lightmapping, so, you'd be blasted back to the HL2 2004 fullbright era.

[eX]

Originally posted by Oppenhimer:

its unreal engine 5. blame epic

Iam not a pro but an indie/amateur game dev, I can tell you`r wrong, I dont know why so many people get this idea that unreal engine is responsible for bad games, this is ridiculous idea and whoever is spreading this has 0 understanding of how games are made, game engines are essentially a collection of tools, its up to an individual developer what tools to include or not include in their game, it is 100% developers fault and has literally nothing to do with epic games or their engine.

[groundzeroday]

Originally posted by eX:

Originally posted by Oppenhimer:

its unreal engine 5. blame epic

Iam not a pro but an indie/amateur game dev, I can tell you`r wrong, I dont know why so many people get this idea that unreal engine is responsible for bad games, this is ridiculous idea and whoever is spreading this has 0 understanding of how games are made, game engines are essentially a collection of tools, its up to an individual developer what tools to include or not include in their game, it is 100% developers fault and has literally nothing to do with epic games or their engine.

This, the issue is UE5 has a lot of bells and whistles like Lumen lighting, and devs tend to just leave that stuff enabled. UE is perfectly capable of being an efficient engine, just you actually have to optimize in some places and not just leave every option enabled. The irony is that people spoke this way about Unity, and Unity also has its examples of optimized and unoptimized games, but it seems that UE has taken that crown of "oh it's unreal engine, what a mess".

tl;dr blame devs for not optimizing when the engine itself has countless examples of well optimized games

[I AM THE LAW!]

I agree. I just upgraded my PC, so I have pretty up to date hardware (Ryzen 5 7500f, and a RX 7900GRE) but even I can't get a average FPS of 100. and my hardware runs abnormally hot for such a simple game. I think the game is very brutal to those who don't have a ssd or a good one and enough ram. like if you only have 8GB of ram you'll probably suffer.

[Steve]

6950XT Go Brrrr

Originally posted by I AM THE LAW!:

I agree. I just upgraded my PC, so I have pretty up to date hardware (Ryzen 5 7500f, and a RX 7900GRE) but even I can't get a average FPS of 100. and my hardware runs abnormally hot for such a simple game. I think the game is very brutal to those who don't have a ssd or a good one and enough ram. like if you only have 8GB of ram you'll probably suffer.

Simple game on a bloated engine.

[Suwako]

Originally posted by I AM THE LAW!:

I agree. I just upgraded my PC, so I have pretty up to date hardware (Ryzen 5 7500f, and a RX 7900GRE) but even I can't get a average FPS of 100. and my hardware runs abnormally hot for such a simple game. I think the game is very brutal to those who don't have a ssd or a good one and enough ram. like if you only have 8GB of ram you'll probably suffer.

It seems like you're doing something wrong, or there is something wrong with your set up. I'm using a RX 6650 XT which is a cheap AMD card you can get for around 200 bucks. I'm getting an average over 100 fps on maxed settings.

https://prnt.sc/boVnifpQEWCJ

[I AM THE LAW!]

Originally posted by Suwako:

Originally posted by I AM THE LAW!:

I agree. I just upgraded my PC, so I have pretty up to date hardware (Ryzen 5 7500f, and a RX 7900GRE) but even I can't get a average FPS of 100. and my hardware runs abnormally hot for such a simple game. I think the game is very brutal to those who don't have a ssd or a good one and enough ram. like if you only have 8GB of ram you'll probably suffer.

It seems like you're doing something wrong, or there is something wrong with your set up. I'm using a RX 6650 XT which is a cheap AMD card you can get for around 200 bucks. I'm getting an average over 100 fps on maxed settings.

https://prnt.sc/boVnifpQEWCJ

I'm playing on max graphics at 2560x1440p full screen. In menu I get 120FPS, but once I go into say apartments and go to wave 8 I get significantly less FPS. obviously apartments is the most performance intensive map, and playing when there's 12 bots all shooting glass is obviously going to lower my frame rate, but with this simple of a game, it really shouldn't lower me below 100.

I think I have everything set up fine, other games run great, I think I'm getting as much usage out of my 7900 as I"m going to get.

[Suwako]

Originally posted by I AM THE LAW!:

I think I have everything set up fine, other games run great, I think I'm getting as much usage out of my 7900 as I"m going to get.

Sounds like you've got it down pat. It's probably an UE5 thing. I've seen dookie low res UE5 games run the as as something like CAM or some other 'pHoTo ReAlIsTiC' UE5 games. It's not that UE5 cant be optimized, its just that the engine is tailored to higher end PCs from the box, so if a small dev makes a game, its better for them to focus on the game, than spending days, or weeks, messing with the engine itself to optimize performance.

Some one mentioned lumen lighting. Yes, you can disable it, but if you just disable it, default lighting without it looks kinda horrible, so you'd have to either outright buy a different lighting system which some times the price is a bit too much to excuse buying it over the default lighting. Even then you have to pray that it looks decent with the type of game you're making. This is just one example of many other little things that are similar in nature.

We just hope that with this first game, the Dev has made enough dough to take more time and fiddle with his next project, without having to stretch his budget or take 7 years to finish a project. 10k sales isnt that much profit in the world of game development especially at 5 bucks a sale, but its better than how most indie devs start, which usually goes something like;

Dev: "Dad, can i borrow 20k to make an eroge about dating a GBU-12 Paveway II laser guided bomb"
Dad: "Ask your mother"
Dev: "Dad, mom said yes. I have now sold over 4 million copies."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRqXYqR-TuU

[DieuDuJambon]

4070TI it run butter smooth at 4k

[I AM THE LAW!]

Originally posted by Suwako:

Dev: "Dad, can i borrow 20k to make an eroge about dating a GBU-12 Paveway II laser guided bomb"
Dad: "Ask your mother"
Dev: "Dad, mom said yes. I have now sold over 4 million copies."

LOOOOOOL

[groundzeroday]

Some one mentioned lumen lighting. Yes, you can disable it, but if you just disable it, default lighting without it looks kinda horrible, so you'd have to either outright buy a different lighting system which some times the price is a bit too much to excuse buying it over the default lighting.

As opposed to every UE4 game that DIDN'T have Lumen lighting?
Can you source this statement, either based on your own game development, or any other developer saying this?