Stuttering mess?

[JuiceRabbit]

My recollection is that TSW4 etc are all poorly optimized and "stutter" every 10 seconds or so... Was that ever fixed in TSW4. Can we expect TSW5 to be another poorly optimized game?

Seems to me DTG are simply putting a new shade of lipstick on their pig!

[beldrnl]

Originally posted by PRAET0R1AN™:

Originally posted by beldrnl:

Then why don't they upgrade to UE5?

That would be something I would ask the developers during their next dev stream.

Another game that was ran on UE4 recently got the UE5 treatment and while it takes maybe 20 to 30 seconds longer to load in, The stutters were all gone so I know it can be done.

Epic games also uploaded documentation on how to migrate UE4 projects to UE5 so that the UE5 project can utilise optimisations specific to that game engine.

It takes work to do but the bonus of having projects in UE5 vs UE4 is that UE4 builds take longer to load in the editor whereas the UE5 editor is much much quicker at generating the shaders and can also repackage and build projects quicker so it's puzzling why Dovetail aren't taking advantage of newer tech.

Even if it takes a minute or so longer to load, I'm okay with that. If after that I'll get 30-60 minutes of stutter free gameplay (depending on the service ofc) then I'm all for it!

I don't think it will be added to tsw5, I have my hopes up for tsw6

[yezze^]

hello i also have the problem that it starts to drop fps every 10 sec and i have a lag , is there a solution ? PS: I installed it on an m.2 128GB DDR5 and RTX 4090, should be enough.

[arkaras]

Seems like in TSW4 the performance will be close to barely acceptable only after a few patches. Apart from the lags my fps divebomb when reaching Frankfurt Central (which looks like an absolute bare and empty version. no npcs whatsover on the platforms. WTF!!?!)

[Virtual]

Originally posted by yezze^:

hello i also have the problem that it starts to drop fps every 10 sec and i have a lag , is there a solution ? PS: I installed it on an m.2 128GB DDR5 and RTX 4090, should be enough.

Try and go back and forth on the same route a few times and see if it helps. Most of the stutter comes from the shader cache building the first time you go on a route and usually minimizes after that. At least until you update your graphics driver.

[ATC_Peter]

It is a bigger stuttering mess than TSW4 in the new routes, probably due to even more scenary objects and more layers. In TSW4 I had a great experience in the last couple of months, but now even going through the new Frankfurt-Fulda line several times it is still a stuttering mess. I also noticed that it uses significantly more VRAM, like from my 16GB 6900XT it uses all of the available VRAM (it was always around 8-13GB in TSW4), looking in the Task Manager the VRAM usage is more than 16GB, so it started to use system memory for the graphics card, something is very off. Even with texture quality set to Medium.

[Virtual]

Originally posted by MadManager:

It is a bigger stuttering mess than TSW4 in the new routes, probably due to even more scenary objects and more layers. In TSW4 I had a great experience in the last couple of months, but now even going through the new Frankfurt-Fulda line several times it is still a stuttering mess. I also noticed that it uses significantly more VRAM, like from my 16GB 6900XT it uses all of the available VRAM (it was always around 8-13GB in TSW4), looking in the Task Manager the VRAM usage is more than 16GB, so it started to use system memory for the graphics card, something is very off. Even with texture quality set to Medium.

Interesting findings. You should either post in on the DTG forum or create a support ticket with this.

[T.eMp]

I didnt play TSW4, but play TSW5 is an absolute mess. Huge fps stutter with a i9 11900k and Rtx 4070 Ti Super.

[PRAET0R1AN™]

Originally posted by T.eMp:

I didnt play TSW4, but play TSW5 is an absolute mess. Huge fps stutter with a i9 11900k and Rtx 4070 Ti Super.

That's not very encouraging.. *sigh*

[Bobby]

Originally posted by Skeletor:

I refunded the game. It is literally the copied and pasted version of TSW3. Also this game doesn't have a steam train in the standard packages.

It’s a locomotive 🙄

[BR|sCip]

use -dx12 in startup parameters

[Grumpy Englishman]

Originally posted by Skeletor:

I refunded the game. It is literally the copied and pasted version of TSW3. Also this game doesn't have a steam train in the standard packages.

I didn't know train sim world 3 had Frankfurt and London Houston in it

[Silent War]

My performance seemingly has improved with my migration to TSW5. That said it is still early. I understand the more you run the game, route and engines, the more info gets saved and it improves performance as the game looks to those data files to "pre-load". Don't know if it is true, I have read about this across several games including this one. Seems reasonable.

[ATC_Peter]

Originally posted by BR|sCip:

use -dx12 in startup parameters

Yes, it works way better with the DX12 API, but with the default settings it is a laggy hell, and I know for sure that some of the buyers do not care about these extra tweeks, they would like to have good experience out of the box.

BTW I am wondering why this is not the default setting, we do this tweek for like ages.

[MugHug]

Suspect TSW will stay on UE4 for as long as it remains a viable selling product for them. In effect, for many years to come.

Would you as a business like DTG, take on the headache and major cost of upgrading to UE5 if TSW on UE4 is still bringing the money in?

Think like a business and not a player to come up with that answer.

[dougsie]

Interesting, I got rid of windows years ago so I play TSW using an AMD 5600X cpu with an AMD RX6600 GPU using Linux OS. Hence this is why I play via steam as I run the game via Proton 9.0. I have also played TSW4 on my steam deck (also linux based).

The only command line I have used is -DX12 but frankly for me I am unsure if this has provided any benefit. I also set the frame rate to 60fps because i use HDMI to screen

I have never experienced any stuttering or low frame rates in TSW4 or 5 at all, although sometimes steam sometimes makes me wait a couple of minutes for a shader refresh before starting the game.