I don't understand the character position swapping during combat

[FroBodine]

How does the character swapping during combat work? I click on one of my dudes to swap them, and it just seems to randomly swap two characters. How do I select the guy to swap, and where exactly to place him in the grid? I just don't understand how this mechanic works.

I wish there was a real manual. I fear I will have a ton of silly questions like this.

Developers - please write a comprehensive manual for us players new to this game. We all didn't play through early access you know. :o)

[Kordanor]

I actually think it's bugged after you used the summoner.
For now I recommend to not swap after summons. Move to empty slots if possible instead.

Edit:
Guess you are talking about this, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFzYVeVz3R0

[FroBodine]

No, I don't even have a Summoner. I just don't understand how the swapping of characters works? I click on one of my guys in the back row, and it seems to randomly choose a place to swap them. Sometimes it swaps them left to right in the same row, sometimes it swaps with someone in the front row.

How do I choose exactly who I want to swap, and where I want to put them?

[Kordanor]

The one who's turn is active can move. You just click on the position where he should go and thats it. If there is another member they swap. Also you should know that there can't be a member in the back row if the front row is empty. There always has to be someone in the front in order for someone staying in the back.

[FroBodine]

Thank you, Kordanar! I guess I just wasn't paying attention to whose turn it was. I am brand new, and still just playing around with the interface.

[Qiox]

Originally posted by FroBodine:

No, I don't even have a Summoner. I just don't understand how the swapping of characters works? I click on one of my guys in the back row, and it seems to randomly choose a place to swap them. Sometimes it swaps them left to right in the same row, sometimes it swaps with someone in the front row.

How do I choose exactly who I want to swap, and where I want to put them?

You cannot choose who you want to swap. You can only choose who the currently active character will swap with.

When you are clicking on someone in the back row you are actually telling the whoever's combat turn it is, to swap with that person in the back row.

To setup the default positioning that they start in at the beginning of combat you have to use the combat formation button when you are out of combat.

[FroBodine]

Thank you. There is a combat formation button? Boy, I sure wish there was a manual for this game. I hope the developers are working on one.

Where is the combat formation button, please?

[Qiox]

There's buttons all around the bottom right corner of the screen. Mouse over them all and see what you got :)

[Star Paladin]

There is a bug. I have no Summoner, and I am unable to swap places sometimes. Also, a random member has swapped places instead of the one I clicked on several times also.

[Candide]

I had the same question. Unfortunately I think the poor interface and lack of documentation is going to keep me from getting into this game at all.

[FroBodine]

So far, I don't have any problem with the interface. I think it is very nice, actually.

But, the lack of a comprehensive manual, heck any manual at all, is very annoying. I sure hope the developers have this on the top of their priority list.

There are a LOT of newbies coming into this game having never played the early access, and we don't know anything about it. Come on developers, give us a manual please!!

[Sentinel 08295]

Originally posted by FroBodine:

Thank you. There is a combat formation button? Boy, I sure wish there was a manual for this game. I hope the developers are working on one.

Where is the combat formation button, please?

There is a manual, it's called the Deluxe Edition!

[Qiox]

The pop-up hint windows at the begining of the game actually tell you about the formation button and how swapping in combat works.

Instead of just closing those windows, read them.

[FroBodine]

I have the deluxe edition. There is no manual. If there is, where is it, please?

I read all the hint windows. At least I thought I did. I started over and saw it this time. Thank you.

[Kordanor]

The deluxe edition does not contain a manual. It will contain a guide at some point, which I guess will be more like a hint book.

But as Qiox said: Most essential stuff is actually explained in pop-up hints or can be read in tooltips.
Maybe it's also a matter of personal experience and how you approach a game (e.g. first thing I always do for example is to check out every interface option I have), but I also never felt that I didn't get all information needed. With the exception of: Calculations (and without understanding them there is no point in the combat log) and future skills of classes. There could have been more information about this in the game.

[FroBodine]

Thanks Kordanar. I don't know what jpnole is talking about, then. The deluxe edition gives no more help. I look forward to the manual/guide/whatever the developers give us. Skill trees would be VERY helpful.