What is the strategy for vision field v21 ? (Spoilers)

[Ai]

It can be found in the B hex field.

I can't seem to figure out the strategy for that one, i keep losing because i get overun most of the time...expect that one time....just to find out that there is a boss waiting for you after you beat all the waves.

Any tips?

[Lahai Roi]

Armor tearing is a requirement, otherwise you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
I don't really know past that. I'd say crit gem is really important for outputting damage.
Make 4 color gems maybe with armor tearing, crit, poison, and slow.
Maybe make one that has chain hit and allow it to focus on the swarms.
This one is really tough, I must admit.

[BilboCGL]

I haven't played V21, but V22 has also guardians in the end! Use pure gems, a big crit for damage, a (probably small) armor gem before fighting the guardians, and at least at V22 it is important to slow the monsters down! Good luck

[Astfgl]

Just finished v21, took loads of tries but finaly got it, Simplest strategy is the best. 1 armor shred (purple) gem and 1 chain hit (red) gem. just upgrade each of them to lvl 7 and then combine them to kill the bosses. Prioritise targetting on wave 26 to kill maybe half the wave before they reach the crystal as u r normaly v low on mana by that point.

[Ivan247]

I use 3 part yellow 1 part red. Start with a G3, then set up another G3 quickly. Keep upgrading and when there are 2 G6 combine them for a G7 and then rebuild a G3 and upgrade that until there are 2 G7s. Combine them for a G8 after the last swarm wave (W24). I usually have enough mana to build a G6 purple gem when the Guardians arrive.

As an unrelated note, I'm planning to write a Vision Field walkthrough this time. Probably at this weekend or next week.

EDIT: A G5 purple is OK but the Guardians can get closer. Just don't forget to upgrade that G5 purple. Also you may want to have a G7 use "least hit points" at W24 swarmlings. When fighting the last 2 waves using the G8, use "nearest to orb" but keep an eye if a larger group rushes by. Select one of the monster farther away from the orb in that group when they start to leave the gem's range to ensure you can kill at least one or two more instead of wasting your shots firing at the 1st monster when they start to leave your gem's range. Yeah, priorities matter.

EDIT2: Did more testing. 3r1y (later 7r1y) seems better than 3y1r here.

[Ai]

After reading all what you guys said, i think i found out what im doing worng. Alright will try again now. Hopefully this time i beat it. xD

EDIT : Ok! I got it. Finally. Just barely but i got it. (The gardien was one square away form my orb.)

My biggest problem, is i was using R + yellow istend of pure red AND trying to use 3 gems istend of 2. (I keep telling myself i need 3 to not get overun...WORNG!)

I tried a pure red and one purple gem, it worked after a few tries, with the mana i get form killing those gardiens,i managed to get a pure yellow to finish off the gardiens fast eneuf to save my orb.


Well, that's that. Thanks for helping you all!

[Ivan247]

Oh yea, don't forget to gather mana from the unearthed shard when you only have one or two monsters left (banishment cost mitigated by mana regeneration of the pool alone) so you have sufficient mana for 2 towers and a G6 (or at least closer to that).

[BilboCGL]

Now, I have seen the map - my primary strategy was the same as IvanYius strategy, 3y1r, two towers - but later an additional g5 purple/blue.
For the guardians, I used a g6 purple and a g4/g5 slowing gem. I had a g7 and a g6 killgem. after all armor of all guardians was gone, I sold the purple and was able to get a g8 killgem.

[Daikha]

i made a video for this level like it is a new. It will be upload soon, i will edit this message for give the link later
[edit] here is the link of my video, i hope it will help ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP5RxHhOEO8&feature=youtu.be

[FakeHollocoz]

Thank you for the vid, it helped me.... i played this level 50 times or more without success... unti your help, thanks!!

[Kubark]

I really dislike those V field.. It has nothing to do with TD's, it's just a puzzle game where you have to find the proper build order... no fun, just math..

[12345ieee]

Originally posted by Colenzo:

[...] no fun, just math..

Unlike the rest of the game, which clearly has no math whatsoever...

[Kubark]

Originally posted by 12345ieee:

Originally posted by Colenzo:

[...] no fun, just math..

Unlike the rest of the game, which clearly has no math whatsoever...

I mean ofc the entire game is about math ^^ but you have a certain part of freedom in building except if you play for the "Hmmm I only play for the perfect run dude". So I guess you'd better run a sub program that would optimize all the moves and when you set/ up / how / where etc...

Don't try to be a ♥♥♥♥ you' could succeed...

V fields are no much fun as it's more "puzzle" run as you have to fail - retry n E-x just to find the proper build order and sequence to pass.

Ofc it's my opinion and should reflect only my thought.

Gemcraft has FUN (and lot of) except in those V fields as I don't feel like guinea pig having to find the proper gate for his meal.

[Tyrranus]

Great tips, these helped me as well.

I did want to throw in a comment about the guardians - don't bother trying to deal damage until the armor is reduced to zero. Prioritize as many Purples and towers as you can afford as soon as they appear, and move the gems to make sure they never stop getting hit with armor-reduction. By the time they reach the last choke point of the map (where all lanes merge into one), their armor will be 0 and your G7-8s will tear them down LONG before your orb is in any real danger.

[ruphus]

I killed the last arcane with killgem bomb... even shredding the armor along the way isn't enough for my gems orz

[Alkali Ali]

Was my first V field and failed 5 times before I did just red and just yellow too at the beginning - later green, purple and blue - but even that way it was close. Had a lot of banish costs in midgame.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/alkali_ali/screenshot/956343206369930385

Now in the video from Daikha I see I could have placed some towers closer to the crawling guardians to hit them more often :x