Progress speed

[datasetmining]

Hello to all! This game is very cool!
Can you say what time is you need to go from BH 5 to BH6 - for me it was 4 days...i just want compared my speed game with other to know - am i slowly (and seems i did some things in game not optimal)

[BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!"]

It's an idle game.. The only real currency is time. Best strat is just follow the forum's advises and go 3-hour LY travels until you reach the next BH.. Make sure you choose wisely on BH upgrades before start the run.
Oh, and do NOT forget spend armies on perm upgrades before reset BH! especially the enemy shield reduction is a must have!
For BH 7 i recommend first of all take prisoners kept, then keep plasma and junk or get shorten civilian time and plasma and keep level.
If you want to go serious on prisoners (i recommend BH8+, but that is me) do instead of keep plasma and level the quad prisoners.
(there is no rollback option but the 1 refund only within the time limit of 1k kills, which is fast) In the meantime, when not pushing seriously, go back to the highest level you 1-shot mobs. High yield of prisoners and equipment then (equipment gets OP quite hard when do the farm.)

[Tagger]

Originally posted by BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!":

It's an idle game.. The only real currency is time. Best strat is just follow the forum's advises and go 3-hour LY travels until you reach the next BH.. Make sure you choose wisely on BH upgrades before start the run.
Oh, and do NOT forget spend armies on perm upgrades before reset BH! especially the enemy shield reduction is a must have!
For BH 7 i recommend first of all take prisoners kept, then keep plasma and junk or get shorten civilian time and plasma and keep level.
If you want to go serious on prisoners (i recommend BH8+, but that is me) do instead of keep plasma and level the quad prisoners.
(there is no rollback option but the 1 refund only within the time limit of 1k kills, which is fast) In the meantime, when not pushing seriously, go back to the highest level you 1-shot mobs. High yield of prisoners and equipment then (equipment gets OP quite hard when do the farm.)

I wouldn't ever pick "keep level" past BH4 (or even at all). You'll get back to whatever level you were at, when you LY, real fast (usually as fast as it takes for LY to start counting again, when you're sub-level 1000 anyway).
It's not worth a point (you barely progress in Exp, when you start "hitting a wall" - keeping your levels won't make that any better - you'll reach that point again, pretty fast - with or without it) - it's way better to put it some other place, where it actually does something for you.

Generally pick as many from the Prisoners QoL options as you're able to get (that's by far the strongest options early on).
The rest is pretty much up to you - but I would never waste a point on keeping my levels. Any multiplier is better than that (can't even remember when those opened up).

Decreasing Enemy Shields might also sound good - but you've got other options for doing that, so that's not really needed either (we even got an option not that long ago, in the minerals mini-game, that mitigates shields), if you'd rather use the point somewhere else.
I ran with it once and dropped it the follow BH. Wasn't worth it either.
If you don't have those options available yet (through the 2nd and 3rd mini-game) or you're not able to get high enough level to mitigate their shields through levels, then sure - you can pick it.

[BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!"]

I will keep it in mind when i go BH 9. Those 3 points in BH will be spent way better. Thank you for additional advise, Tagger.

[Kreuz]

Personally I like to put the point in Keep levels cause it saves time between runs having to place the points in the different skills and I don't have to worry about repurchasing the shield skills and whatnot after a lightyear travel. This lets me just go straight back to normal galaxy 3 (limited by misiks) right after light year traveling.

That said, the prisoners are definitely the main ones to focus on since you need so much Army for colonization and permanent buffs, as well as 750 (250 with BH perk) to maximize garbage gain. As mentioned above, the -30 shield BH perk is kinda garbage cause what limits you later on isn't their shields but the damage you take/deal. Once you get the mineral minigame's shield reduction up a bit it's more than enough.

Sadly, I'm still far short of being able to buy the 1 extra BH matter from the army tab, since it takes 2000 armies.

[BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!"]

This is Spart... **coughcough** an Idle game...
You shall not pass... this wall...
Memes galore.... ah well..

Well, army farming isn't a problem weren't it for the exponential costs (doubling over and over again). only way to cope is simple.. BH and BH again for army multi, but that will costs even harder exponential LY to do.. Let the walling and chokepointing and timesinking begin..
I am just at BH8 with 50% done.. Took me 4 straight days so far and the worst is still to come if i believe the others.
At least i broke through to normal mode with some patience though..
I sincerely hope there will be some breakthroughs later on, cuz i do not want this game join the other ones in the 'fridge'.

[Kreuz]

It takes a while as you progress cause each BH takes a decent amount more lightyears traveled than the previous. It also helps if you are able to unlock all of the different mech upgrades since once you unlock them all for a specific mech you get a citizen upgrade that increases their effectiveness. Sadly, still only 3/9 on mech 3.

Currently on BH11 going to BH12, but here are my times so far for comparison.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3335243803

Edit: For reference, just over 4 days on my current run and at 17.54% completed.

[Crimson_Fire_Dragon]

i,m also on bh 11 to 12 and probably done within 24 hours if i keep traveling back in time every time the light years slow down.
but i myself think buying the keep level upgrade is quite good because you don't need to keep redoing the choices and clicking every back travel.
and i'm right now at level 1260 and i get allot of buffs but its indeed a little useless for now because hard universe is still to hard but i will need to do it when i reach bh13 so that i can do supernova collapse.
but for reaching hard universe you also unlock some extra plasma upgrades and junk upgrades, but i kinda screwed up with this bh run because i accidentally picked the wrong upgrade for prisoners but i,m almost trough it so its not such a big problem anymore

[BigBoy "!.OutLawZ.!"]

When you frik up with BG point distribution, read the thread with 24hr rollback, my question was answered very well by the dev. Just import / replace an older backup save just before you BH'ed.

[Crimson_Fire_Dragon]

i know but i was already like 10 ish days into this bh 11 to 12 run and i did read it earlier today also commented on it but i,m like 8 to 9 ish hours away from bh 12 right now so no need for it right now