Football Manager 2015

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ristey Jan 22, 2015 @ 2:34pm
Attribute Drop
I've noticed Munir's attributes yoyo and is making little forward progress which is surprising giving the circumstances, anyone with any advice would be much appreciated as I'm at a loss here...

He's just turned 21 and it's happened before even at 19
Still recognised as "Wonderkid"
Heavy Training Schedule 100% focussed on Attributes
Been in great form for the previous month
Represented Spain twice in that period & scored in both games
Playing in 2nd best position at 3* but Accomplished there
Can't be tutored as Senior Member
Facilities are the best as at Real Madrid (I know lol but really, he's at Madrid)
No use of editor or any form of cheating
Coach reports he's training well

I don't understand how he can drop a single attribute atm, let alone 21 individual attributes and only gaining in 3. I've got a few ideas but anyone who's experienced the same kind of thing or has advice would be much appreciated.
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alan29b Jan 23, 2015 @ 7:23am 
I cant find anyone with more than 3 1/2 stars in my game. World class players have only 3 stars! Ratings are a mess in this game i`m afraid.
The star rating is all relative. If all world class players are only showing up as 3* thats because that means they're on par with the ability of your team (meaning you have a world class team).
The stars aren't meant to show their overall ability. Its simply meant as a simplified way to see if signing a player would raise your overall level of ability within a club. For a club like Real Madrid, very few players will be over 3* since they gather all the top ability whereas if a club such as nottingham forest were to sign someone such as theo walcott, he would almost definitely be a 5* prospect for that given club.

short version: stars are relative to your squad. a drop in a players star rating most likely means that the overall ability level of your club has increased.
alan29b Jan 23, 2015 @ 7:45am 
Wow i didn`t know that. Thanks.
ristey Jan 23, 2015 @ 7:59am 
I'm not bothered about star rating as I have a grasp of how that works, it's his stats that are frustrating me. I can't undertand given my first post situations based around him why he would decline as a footballer when everything has been positive?
So I mean sometimes with younger players if they're overworked, the stats may decline slightly from exhaustion. What stats have dropped? I suppose its also not uncommon for stats occasionally to drop. To use a real life example, look at Cristiano Ronaldos Freekick ability. On his day, they are absolutely amazing (like the good ol' days of united when he had that beauty against Portsmouth) but other days, he struggles to get them up and over the wall. Just like real life, abilities can vary from day to day and thus its not uncommon for a professional to occasionally drop.

Given Munirs age though I can't see it being a long term problem for you. In the long run, it will average out and his stats will continue to be on the up.
ristey Jan 23, 2015 @ 8:47am 
He's had 21 attributes decline across all three areas, Finishing, Accelleration & Pace are most frustrating but he's also declined in such areas as Dribbling, First Touch etc.

I have been thinking it may be due to the Heavy Training so I'll lay off to Medium and hope it sorts it out, just can't get my head round this as even fatigue doesn't decrease your ability... Maybe form may drop but I would assume those attributes are long term whereas fatigue is temporary. His progress has been little over the last three years as his finishing was 15 when I signed him and it has just returned to 15 due to latest drop!!!

Ronaldo's free-kick was sensational against Pompey and granted he's never going to be hitting them again like he was, but at his age it's kind of understandable but Munir in-game is still so young
For all the attributes that dropped, were they substantial drops or was it just a blip on the graphs? If the stat drops below the line, it may only drop like. .2 or .3 but the stats get rounded down so it may look like its having a far worse effect than it actually is? I don't know it just seems like an odd situation to have so many stats drop. cant really blame it on any sort of bug though (that being the go to response on everything in this version).
kwadwboakyebarima Jan 23, 2015 @ 2:05pm 
In order to check for the real star rating of your player just go to overview of your player and then go to information.
ristey Jan 25, 2015 @ 6:55am 
This isn't a post about star ratings, it's about attributes decreasing for apparently no reason or for reasons which I don't understand?!

The decrease in attributes are a blip on the graph of less than 1, but on the larger scale this is frustrating and his progress isn't going anywhere!
Over the past 8 months his finishing attribute (which I have been training) has decreased twice on separate occasions whch has left Munir (just turned 21 within this 8months) having no actual progress at all, he's now stayed at 15.5 where he began!!!

Either I don't understand something within the training system on the game, or there is something wrong as he is playing more games than ever, become an International starter and has been in unbelievable form... Now I have a 17 y/o Regen who has just started to do the same?! With the same sort of conditions as Munir currently?
cleaner475 Jan 25, 2015 @ 8:49am 
Tell him to improve his training performances then using the interaction menu. Not rocket science is it.
ristey Jan 27, 2015 @ 3:24pm 
If you read the first post then you should have noted the report stating he was training well... I'll give it a go but I can't see the logic behing this drop still.
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Date Posted: Jan 22, 2015 @ 2:34pm
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