Worst FM in the Series so far - Dont buy!

[CaMeL]

Seriously, the match engine is just broken. Opposition put in un defendable crosses, whereas your players couldnt hit a barn door. If the game decides you are going to lose then you are powerless to stop it.

There is no skill in the game anymore. You cant find the pearls and train them up to be world beaters, the game engine wont allow you to find them. You are so heavily reliant on your scouts that its impossible to sign anyone with them.

Most clubs are operating at a loss, it seems to try to tempt you into using the magical bank balance boost (In game purchases Sigh) and dont even get me started on the amount of injuries you get which want a "Magic Sponge"

Most of the "new" roles dont work, and your players AI is really rubbish with players standing on top of each other, goalkeepers kicking the ball into their own nets, players going at snail pace to retrieve a long ball as a chasing striker with 1/2 the pace beats them to the ball and scores. All of these things happen in practically every game, its not 1 off.

I know people will defend saying its beta its beta, beta is supposed to be final polish before realise, Alpha is proper testing, this game is pre alpha, they should be paying me to play it and if I could ask for a refund I would.

[Neil Brock]

The in-game purchases are FMC only. The match engine doesn't differentiate between the User and AI so the game can't 'decide you're going to lose' - it's how you've set your team up I'm afraid.

In real football you'll find most teams ARE running at a loss. Any specific issues you're having with examples I'd suggest raising on our bugs forum which can be found here - http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php/417

Thanks.

[cleaner475]

This is possibly the worst thread I've seen created so far, it's not even factually correct. What happened to education?

CaMeL - it's clear you either don't know how to play the game or just don't watch football, either way I suggest you learn if you want to play a game called 'Football Manager'

[NatalieJx]

beardedramsey eredeti hozzászólása:

This is possibly the worst thread I've seen created so far, it's not even factually correct. What happened to education?

CaMeL - it's clear you either don't know how to play the game or just don't watch football, either way I suggest you learn if you want to play a game called 'Football Manager'

agree , and it is a beta , caMel its not the final product , it might sound silly but fridays release isnt the final product , i personaly think the game on release will surprise a lot of negative people on here , then it will follow up with a update to smooth the game out .

[CaMeL]

I've already uninstalled the game and submitted my request for a refund.

1. Players do go at a snail pace for attackers to run from 30 - 40 yards away and beat them to it. It happens at least once in every game.

2. Injuries happen I agree, happens in every day football all the time but season on season I have found consistently high levels of long term injuries. With different teams in different leagues with different staff running those. I had 4 players injuried in my last game. Now couple that the the "Buy Magic Spounge" button and it doesnt take too much to link an overactive injury system with more ingame purchases.

3. Likewise with the Losses. I am aware a lot of clubs operate at a loss, yet most clubs still spend spend spend on bringing players in, the current system doesnt allow me to do that. But it does again offer me the ability to "Boost my bank balance"

4. A lot of the newly added roles dont work, Inverted Full Backs for one. You cant tell the difference between an inverted full back and a normal one.

5. You say that my players dont react any differently to computer controlled, yet I've seen 2 of my players standing next to each other with acres of space around them, yet they basically decide to mark each other. You will say thats because Im telling them to occupy the same space Attacking midfielder attack and deep lying forward support.... However show me a time in real life where 2 players will sit on the half way line within 2 yards of each other having a chat.

I could go on and on, I would rather not comment on the Community Si games forum as its too heavily moderated, and I think people/consumers/purchasers deserve to know that you have basically taken a broken match engine stuck some new roles on it that dont work and called it your most complete match engine ever that actually is worse than 2012 still!!

I have played FM games since championship manager italia 95? Every year I have purchased them, to say I dont know how to play football manager games and/or dont know football is basically a joke. Don't want to admit the point so belittle the source.

[NatalieJx]

somebody you know in a few weeks will say to you have you got footy manager 15 , and you will say no i tried the beta and it was crap , and they will turn round and say , your joking mate , they have updated it and its awesome now , and you will regret asking for a refund , then deffo rush out to the shops and buy it back with egg on your face.... wait and see lol

[cleaner475]

CaMeL eredeti hozzászólása:

I've already uninstalled the game and submitted my request for a refund.

1. Players do go at a snail pace for attackers to run from 30 - 40 yards away and beat them to it. It happens at least once in every game.

2. Injuries happen I agree, happens in every day football all the time but season on season I have found consistently high levels of long term injuries. With different teams in different leagues with different staff running those. I had 4 players injuried in my last game. Now couple that the the "Buy Magic Spounge" button and it doesnt take too much to link an overactive injury system with more ingame purchases.

3. Likewise with the Losses. I am aware a lot of clubs operate at a loss, yet most clubs still spend spend spend on bringing players in, the current system doesnt allow me to do that. But it does again offer me the ability to "Boost my bank balance"

4. A lot of the newly added roles dont work, Inverted Full Backs for one. You cant tell the difference between an inverted full back and a normal one.

5. You say that my players dont react any differently to computer controlled, yet I've seen 2 of my players standing next to each other with acres of space around them, yet they basically decide to mark each other. You will say thats because Im telling them to occupy the same space Attacking midfielder attack and deep lying forward support.... However show me a time in real life where 2 players will sit on the half way line within 2 yards of each other having a chat.

I could go on and on, I would rather not comment on the Community Si games forum as its too heavily moderated, and I think people/consumers/purchasers deserve to know that you have basically taken a broken match engine stuck some new roles on it that dont work and called it your most complete match engine ever that actually is worse than 2012 still!!

I have played FM games since championship manager italia 95? Every year I have purchased them, to say I dont know how to play football manager games and/or dont know football is basically a joke. Don't want to admit the point so belittle the source.

You don't have to buy any add-ons. Play the normal version if you're that worried about paying for optional extras. You can't buy add-ons in that version and you still suffer the realistic amount of injuries that you do in classic mode.

Complain about stuff with actual evidence, don't just make stuff up it's crazy.

Inverted Fullbacks don't work properly right now but SI are hoping to get that fixed for release. That's the only role that is known to not function properly and is, somewhat unsuprisingly, the only one you mention in your very short list of roles that do no work. So I think we can discount that point fairly easily.

What club spends spends spends these days? Have you not been keeping up with modern day football? FFP rules exist now which means you can't do that anymore, hence Man City and Chelsea's decrease in expenditure.

Injuries are now at a more realistic level. It might take a while in learning how to avoid them. Football manager is a simulator, not a casual game so you'll just have to learn if you want to play it.

The match engine is still being worked on but if you expeirencing bugs then you should post them at the SI forum so they can fix them for release. You decided to play the Beta version, what's the point in moaning if you aren't going to give them evidence to help them fix the issue.

I despair I really do. People these days clearly aren't even capable of reading or expressing displeasure in any other way than angry posts on forums which at the end of the day doesn't help anyone.

[NatalieJx]

beardedramsey eredeti hozzászólása:

CaMeL eredeti hozzászólása:

I've already uninstalled the game and submitted my request for a refund.

1. Players do go at a snail pace for attackers to run from 30 - 40 yards away and beat them to it. It happens at least once in every game.

2. Injuries happen I agree, happens in every day football all the time but season on season I have found consistently high levels of long term injuries. With different teams in different leagues with different staff running those. I had 4 players injuried in my last game. Now couple that the the "Buy Magic Spounge" button and it doesnt take too much to link an overactive injury system with more ingame purchases.

3. Likewise with the Losses. I am aware a lot of clubs operate at a loss, yet most clubs still spend spend spend on bringing players in, the current system doesnt allow me to do that. But it does again offer me the ability to "Boost my bank balance"

4. A lot of the newly added roles dont work, Inverted Full Backs for one. You cant tell the difference between an inverted full back and a normal one.

5. You say that my players dont react any differently to computer controlled, yet I've seen 2 of my players standing next to each other with acres of space around them, yet they basically decide to mark each other. You will say thats because Im telling them to occupy the same space Attacking midfielder attack and deep lying forward support.... However show me a time in real life where 2 players will sit on the half way line within 2 yards of each other having a chat.

I could go on and on, I would rather not comment on the Community Si games forum as its too heavily moderated, and I think people/consumers/purchasers deserve to know that you have basically taken a broken match engine stuck some new roles on it that dont work and called it your most complete match engine ever that actually is worse than 2012 still!!

I have played FM games since championship manager italia 95? Every year I have purchased them, to say I dont know how to play football manager games and/or dont know football is basically a joke. Don't want to admit the point so belittle the source.

You don't have to buy any add-ons. Play the normal version if you're that worried about paying for optional extras. You can't buy add-ons in that version and you still suffer the realistic amount of injuries that you do in classic mode.

Complain about stuff with actual evidence, don't just make stuff up it's crazy.

Inverted Fullbacks don't work properly right now but SI are hoping to get that fixed for release. That's the only role that is known to not function properly and is, somewhat unsuprisingly, the only one you mention in your very short list of roles that do no work. So I think we can discount that point fairly easily.

What club spends spends spends these days? Have you not been keeping up with modern day football? FFP rules exist now which means you can't do that anymore, hence Man City and Chelsea's decrease in expenditure.

Injuries are now at a more realistic level. It might take a while in learning how to avoid them. Football manager is a simulator, not a casual game so you'll just have to learn if you want to play it.

The match engine is still being worked on but if you expeirencing bugs then you should post them at the SI forum so they can fix them for release. You decided to play the Beta version, what's the point in moaning if you aren't going to give them evidence to help them fix the issue.

I despair I really do. People these days clearly aren't even capable of reading or expressing displeasure in any other way than angry posts on forums which at the end of the day doesn't help anyone.

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[Tony Cliffton]

It´s not the worst in the series. But the amount of injuries in this game is ridiculous, especially since last patch.

[CaMeL]

I think its the worst, I cant recall many worse at point of release and have purchased them all since early 90s from Champ Man Italia right the way through to this one.

Dont think I havent given this new engine a test, i've clocked up 25 hours in games.

I stand by my original statement, the game is broken. If I had played a demo before purchasing I would not have purchased.

I still would advise all thinking of buying to not buy. Wait for demo, see who is right.

[dolfin561]

Cool story Bro....even if it's still the beta.

[= ØΛŦHBЯΣΛĶΣЯ = ™]

I simply just want to say that all you wrote above didnt longer happend to me after 15.03 update, if we still talk about 15.02 then I'm 1000% agreed with you, but if we talk about 15.03 then I have to disagree because after update my team are much much more awesome and follow my instruction perfectly. My loss ratio are dropped more than 75% and now I can get my team to have clean sheet in 8 straight game where before 15.03 update to have clean sheet in a single game is completely hardcore hard..

[cleaner475]

CaMeL eredeti hozzászólása:

I think its the worst, I cant recall many worse at point of release and have purchased them all since early 90s from Champ Man Italia right the way through to this one.

Dont think I havent given this new engine a test, i've clocked up 25 hours in games.

I stand by my original statement, the game is broken. If I had played a demo before purchasing I would not have purchased.

I still would advise all thinking of buying to not buy. Wait for demo, see who is right.

Good for you that you've bought all the previous ones, but it's not really relevant.

I've pretty much debunked your original statement and you haven't come up with a single reply yet so how you 'stand by' a load of rubbish I don't know.

The demo is already out, and people are deciding for themselves. It would be helpful if you actually put forward a legitmate argument as to why you think it's not worth buying, rather than what you've posted so far.

No one's saying the games perfect or immune to criticism but you're not going about it in a way that's going to help anybody.

[matty]

Disagree with this thread! Yes there will be bugs etc but it is only BETA.

[Yorkie]

Is this in the wrong forum, should it be in the Farming Simulator forum becuase there is so much manure in this complaint.

It ante perfect atm, and perhaps won't ever be but don't posion other peoples minds with unbased drivel. It will get better, as all FM games have, they grow.

[NatalieJx]

Yorkie eredeti hozzászólása:

Is this in the wrong forum, should it be in the Farming Simulator forum becuase there is so much manure in this complaint.

It ante perfect atm, and perhaps won't ever be but don't posion other peoples minds with unbased drivel. It will get better, as all FM games have, they grow.

YES YOUR RIGHT