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Kapt.Kool 4/fev./2015 às 6:18
H1Z1 or DayZ ? whats the difference? which is "better"?
DayZ was the first game of this kind which got my attention, then came H1Z1 which seem to be exactly same. Both games are Zombie open worlds, both are early access.

Maybe someone who owns both games can help me here. Which one is better?
As I will buy just one of them I would like to know the difference like graphics, weapons, selectable characters, future content, singleplayer? ect.
Última edição por Kapt.Kool; 4/fev./2015 às 6:43
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Escrito originalmente por Chapi:
Idealistically, H1Z1 idea is better than DayZ idea, realistically, H1Z1 is 2000 times better than DayZ, I bought DayZ, can get tops 20 FPS on very high-end computer, lots and lots of graphical glitches as game breaking glitches, crashes, horrible waiting times to enter a server, etc. And of course, you won't find a server over 15 people who doesn't have a hacker teleporting around and killing people.

Hackers are all but gone from DayZ since the last major update. Much like H1Z1, DayZ had their security in observation mode for a long time.

Regarding FPS, DayZ isn't optimised yet. They will not begin optimising until sometime later in this quarter.


H1Z1 is fundamentally a different game than DayZ. H1Z1 seems to focus more on "PvP" and an arcade like setting, which is geat and DayZ seems to focus more on survival and a much more realistic setting.


Anyway, each game are extremely fun for me but for very different reasons. Not sure why everyone thinks it's a competition, though.
Escrito originalmente por BlazeMcNight:



H1Z1 is fundamentally a different game than DayZ. H1Z1 seems to focus more on "PvP" and an arcade like setting, which is geat and DayZ seems to focus more on survival and a much more realistic setting.


Anyway, each game are extremely fun for me but for very different reasons. Not sure why everyone thinks it's a competition, though.
Hmm, not sure I would call military weapons and gear lying around all over unused as being "realistic", or "survival based" for that matter. It's far more COD-like and is far less likely to change than a 3 week old Alpha.
3mkr 7/fev./2015 às 9:41 
xD
Hooch 7/fev./2015 às 9:41 
Escrito originalmente por ZE Cpt. Zombie Lobotomy:
Escrito originalmente por Charlie Zedbo:
An interesting aside...Smedley does not believe that H1Z1 is an MMO and posted on his Twitter account that they may change the wording in their advertising a couple weeks ago.

And I agree with you. I wish more people would realize that the use of terms like that and others (sandbox, open world, etc.) are very subjective. There's no concrete definition and as such these terms are used loosely and sometimes interchangeably.

MMO has always meant massive multiplayer online or something similar to that effect. It has nothing to do with WoW or rpgs as people think. If you got a game with at least 100+ players per server, most of the time, that's considered an MMO. The definition has been around since the late 90's and early 00's so you can't just take what a bunch of whiners who weren't even old enough to be paying attention at the time into consideration.
I was unaware that Smedley was so young.


John Smedley ‏@j_smedley Jan 19
I look at H1Z1 not as an MMO at all. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with MMOs. It's a session based persistent online game.

Paul ‏@dirtybirdAU Jan 19
@j_smedley You might want to remove the reference to H1Z1 being a Survival MMO from the website then if you don't want them referring to it.

John Smedley
‏@j_smedley
@dirtybirdAU yeah we're discussing that very thing. It's even hard for us to leave the MMO moniker and I think we do need to lose it.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/557297125088710656

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I understand your point, and I agree with it to an extent...but it isn't as accurate as it should be. I think that is what Smedley realized as well. To refer to it plainly as an MMO is to describe it in a very broad sense. MMO in and of itself doesn't tell us a whole lot, it isn't as meaningful as it used to be since the genre has evolved and expanded so much over the years.

I think more accurately, games like H1Z1 and DayZ are MMOFPS. They just use the zombie apocalypse as a backdrop, nothing more. Adding in a little bit of pve interaction and forcing the player to eat and drink, doesn't change it from being an MMOFPS, it just attempts to dress it up a little.

Neither game is a true survival experience, at all. Both games are focused on PVP interaction. The rest is just window dressing.
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Escrito originalmente por BlazeMcNight:



H1Z1 is fundamentally a different game than DayZ. H1Z1 seems to focus more on "PvP" and an arcade like setting, which is geat and DayZ seems to focus more on survival and a much more realistic setting.


Anyway, each game are extremely fun for me but for very different reasons. Not sure why everyone thinks it's a competition, though.
Hmm, not sure I would call military weapons and gear lying around all over unused as being "realistic", or "survival based" for that matter. It's far more COD-like and is far less likely to change than a 3 week old Alpha.

Actually, unless you haven't played in awhile, military style weapons are nearly impossible to find anymore (at least for me), other than near military areas in DayZ.

Most gear found around the map is typical things you'd find in a setting and for that matter, most are damaged or nearly ruined.


I disagree about not being likely to change, though. There will be a lot changing over the next year, just as there will be a lot changing in H1Z1 over the next year.
Última edição por [415]BlazeMcNight; 7/fev./2015 às 9:49
James Lister 7/fev./2015 às 9:51 
DayZ for sure.
[ZE] Lobo 7/fev./2015 às 10:15 
Yeeaa I was being a ♥♥♥♥, didn't really read the posts too thoroughly. I just can't imagine that anyone that was alive and old enough at the time would have any confusion about the issue especially if they were online gaming at that time.
Última edição por [ZE] Lobo; 7/fev./2015 às 10:15
Escrito originalmente por ZE Cpt. Zombie Lobotomy:
Yeeaa I was being a ♥♥♥♥, didn't really read the posts too thoroughly. I just can't imagine that anyone that was alive and old enough at the time would have any confusion about the issue especially if they were online gaming at that time.


That term has been around since the late 80s but I don't think it was widely used until around 1991 when Neverwinter Nights went live on AOL. ;)

Those were some fun times in the PC gaming world.
Hooch 7/fev./2015 às 11:21 
Escrito originalmente por Amashi:
DayZ for sure.
...but...you don't know why? And what specifically did you not like when you played H1Z1?
Última edição por Hooch; 7/fev./2015 às 11:21
Mark Skid 7/fev./2015 às 11:26 
I perfer DayZ. All the whiney kids moved to H1Z1, which has made DayZ a much more enjoyable environment.

I'll try H1Z1 when all the paying "testers" have helped to pave the way for F2P.
Hooch 7/fev./2015 às 11:28 
Escrito originalmente por the Mixologist:
I perfer DayZ. All the whiney kids moved to H1Z1, which has made DayZ a much more enjoyable environment.

I'll try H1Z1 when all the paying "testers" have helped to pave the way for F2P.
Right...so what specifically did you not like about your H1Z1 experience that leads you to the reasonable conclusion that DayZ is a better gaming experience?
Última edição por Hooch; 7/fev./2015 às 11:29
Mark Skid 7/fev./2015 às 11:31 
Escrito originalmente por Charlie Zedbo:
Escrito originalmente por the Mixologist:
I perfer DayZ. All the whiney kids moved to H1Z1, which has made DayZ a much more enjoyable environment.

I'll try H1Z1 when all the paying "testers" have helped to pave the way for F2P.
Right...so what specifically did you not like about your H1Z1 experience?


I am waiting for the game to be F2P before I try it out.
Hooch 7/fev./2015 às 11:32 
Escrito originalmente por the Mixologist:
Escrito originalmente por Charlie Zedbo:
Right...so what specifically did you not like about your H1Z1 experience?


I am waiting for the game to be F2P before I try it out.
I understand. But given that...how can you say that DayZ is a better experience?
Mark Skid 7/fev./2015 às 11:35 
Escrito originalmente por Charlie Zedbo:
Escrito originalmente por the Mixologist:


I am waiting for the game to be F2P before I try it out.
I understand. But given that...how can you say that DayZ is a better experience?
Ill repeat again.

SInce all the whiney kids moved over to H1Z1, DayZ has been enjoyable again. Why would I want to move over to a game where the mass population of whiners reside? It would be like living in a gated community, then deciding to move to the ghetto. Once the next big thing hits steam, all the whiners in H1Z1 will move to that, and the H1Z1 community will rejoice with pleasure and many parties will be had. At about that time, I will partake in H1Z1, since it should be a more complete game at that point.
Hooch 7/fev./2015 às 11:38 
Escrito originalmente por the Mixologist:
Escrito originalmente por Charlie Zedbo:
I understand. But given that...how can you say that DayZ is a better experience?
Ill repeat again.
Repeating it doesn't address the issue.

The issue was NOT why you have not tried H1Z1 yet. Nor was it why you liked DayZ. The issue was which game is better and why?

You said you preferred DayZ over H1Z1. So if you haven't played H1Z1...then it makes no sense to say "I prefer DayZ over H1Z1."

I understand why you and others like DayZ, just as I understand why some like H1Z1. I also understand why some haven't tried H1Z1 yet, as well as why some have. But neither of those issues were asked in the op, and the statement "I prefer DayZ [over H1Z1" doesn't address the actual issue.
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