Just Survive

Just Survive

Maple 2015 年 12 月 22 日 下午 8:17
BATTLEYE ANTICHEAT WARNING
Battleye Anticheat program is a horrible program designed by Bohemia Entertainment. This program commonly false flags and bans legitmate players forcing them to rebuy the game if they want to continue playing it. DayZ, Arma1, 2, 3, and other Bohemia Entertainment games employ this same ♥♥♥♥♥♥ system.

When you are banned from 1 game you are banned from all other Battleye enabled games. This means you basically would have to rebuy each and every game again. So if you get banned from DayZ you are banned from H1Z1 and Arma and all the other Battleye games.

There are NO warnings or temporary bans. All bans are permanent and you will most likely never heard of a story about someone successfully repealing a ban.

Finding Bohemia Entertainment support is extremely hard. If you do get a hold of them and ask why you are banned, try to repeal the ban or anything like that they will not tell you the reasons or the time or anything even relating to the charges. They will just reply with a link to the agreement.

The code for Battleye has never been audited so it could very well be an invasion of privacy.

Overall, Battleye is a horrible and abusive anticheat system that is highly invasive and unrepealable. The company itself does not help or give support on the issue at all.
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Darkorbit84 2016 年 1 月 3 日 上午 8:38 
引用自 Rammur
battleeye is it seperate company it was used long ebfore arma got up and runnin it was used in some of the older versions of battfield gtho with ya propaganda . works great too like any anticheat it isnt 100% accurate.

it cant be 100% because its a never ending battle between hackers and anticheat battle eye finds a hack the new version is rdy to launch then it starts over but battle eye is a good tool compared to other anticheat systems :)
Xebec 2016 年 12 月 27 日 上午 12:24 
Battleye can read any data from RAM it wants and sends it to a location over the Internet it wants without any control.

Things stored in RAM: emails you write. Your financial information if you Bank online, use Quicken, etc. Text and chat with friends online. Pictures you open up. Websites you visit. Passwords you type.

How can anyone actually support this behavior ?
Lector 2016 年 12 月 27 日 上午 12:47 
BE works very well. "Global" bans is good aswell. A hacker should be punished hard.
Dwarden 2016 年 12 月 27 日 上午 10:52 
stop necro year old thread full of FUD information ...

BattlEye is used by 15 games and more are on theirs way ...

if even single 'rumor' about privacy violation was true ... it would be 0
Xebec 2017 年 1 月 1 日 下午 6:23 
引用自 Dwarden
stop necro year old thread full of FUD information ...

BattlEye is used by 15 games and more are on theirs way ...

if even single 'rumor' about privacy violation was true ... it would be 0

It's not about whether there actually has been a violation (there may or may not have been), it's about the potential for abuse by this company and them having access to all RAM on your computer. When you visit banking websites for example, the authentication for those websites stays in RAM. The potential for mis-use is too large to trust this, and THOUSANDS of other games get by without this kind of technology.

Before you reply, think about all of the hacks going on (Yahoo got hacked and has real security issues for example) -- BattlEye is another perfect company for a hacker to take advantage of.. they could gather all kinds of information from clients running this software. It's just something we don't need.
Maple 2017 年 1 月 1 日 下午 10:30 
引用自 Xebec
引用自 Dwarden
stop necro year old thread full of FUD information ...

BattlEye is used by 15 games and more are on theirs way ...

if even single 'rumor' about privacy violation was true ... it would be 0

It's not about whether there actually has been a violation (there may or may not have been), it's about the potential for abuse by this company and them having access to all RAM on your computer. When you visit banking websites for example, the authentication for those websites stays in RAM. The potential for mis-use is too large to trust this, and THOUSANDS of other games get by without this kind of technology.

Before you reply, think about all of the hacks going on (Yahoo got hacked and has real security issues for example) -- BattlEye is another perfect company for a hacker to take advantage of.. they could gather all kinds of information from clients running this software. It's just something we don't need.

Agreed.. we don't need this ♥♥♥♥ anti-cheat program that does ban legimate noncheating nonhacking players and still doesn't do anything to prevent cheating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7DAsmUCTac is a prime example of people cheating at the game and there are many more videos like this on youtube. and this is in KotK.. Just Survive is even worst. The video I posted is 2 weeks old but there are newer ones... Hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXrRKYicNO4 was posted 6 hours ago at the time of me typing this.

I was against BE when they mentioned it. Just look at DayZ SA.. hell it wasn't even that good even back in Arma2 with DayZ mod... hackers would hack the server and blacklists was ineffective. All you're really getting is a performance hit and unnessarry clutter and more risks with little to no gains.
76561198228324104 2017 年 8 月 11 日 上午 5:39 
My feelings with BattlEye and Steam are over.

I received a game ban from BattlEye. I do not know what It had picked up, however they gave me a global block. My computer has tons of software for system administration, hardware, and software engineering. As much as I would like to say that I never hacked the game << we have all heard that before.

In Ark: Survival Evolved I had made about 6 months of solid progression. I have about 2,000 hours in that game (before removing from my library) and tons of people that I got close to on my official server. We were also on a discord server as well just chatting along as we played the game. So their was a lot of attachment their.

After I triggered a global ban, I immediately tried to contact support. It's been 8 days, many emails, and many forum posts. So far, I have not received a response. Meanwhile some people are telling me that they were banned from a game for two years before it got lifted.

2,000 hours at minimum wage would be about $15,000 for me. Now, I've got nothing on that game. I'm in doubts that the linear progression could honestly be accounted for otherwise the ban should not have so-easily been placed. I don't know though. Horrible software... Hack-Shield Nightmare.

Fortunately I was also doing college homework while I played online games. I was usually working with Visual Studio, SQL Server Management Console, or NetBeans on my main(center) monitor, playing the game on the right monitor(since it takes 11 hours to raise a lot of tames.) and then reading my books on the left monitor.

Today I removed everything from my steam library, as in I would have to repurchase it again. Uninstalled steam from my personal computer. Added steam to my host.conf file as a means to protect my family who uses this computer to.

I was only able to request a refund on one of those games, and even that is probably going to be denied. My experience with the community treating me under the condition of being a cheater (despite nothing absolutely damming) + my experience with steam not refunding the software + my experience with BattlEye concluded to the fact that I would have to seek my own resolution.

I was a fool for believing in you guys. This whole "dream" of permanently banned cannot exist without better customer service and a community which does not judge bans. Even moderators are doing this.

As of 8/11/2017, I have to move on and that means that my account must be dead and so it is. I might never-come back to this. I am hoping that EVGA will refund my GTX 1080 that I invested for this. It was an $800 graphics card that I put-forth to game.

Sincerely Steam;
You Lost Business. Having these games on my profile became an emotional tug to standby for something that I might never get an answer too from the banholder. Nothing that I tried to do would get me a refund. So, their... I don't own any of my titles anymore, your client is blocked, and I am not shopping your markets anymore. If I do anything, I might(probably won't) purchase a PlayStation. I am likely not to because a separate console does not aid the ability to work and play.

Sincerely BattlEye;
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

It was miserable doing business with these guys. miserable... business..

#HackshieldCrisesRuinedGamer



最後修改者:76561198228324104; 2017 年 8 月 11 日 上午 5:45
=MS=Scout 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 12:03 
software engineering aka computer sofrtware hack codes...:steamfacepalm:

If you have Turned off the trainer program you may not have got caught. But hey, Welcome to the Club
battleye is the worst anti cheat ever made i have always had issues with it since playing dayz mod in arma 2
=MS=Scout 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 1:26 
I have close to 3000 hours on Arma 3 & well over on Arma 2 and close to 1000 hours on H1Z1 with no probelms running Battleye.
:WTF: Grendel 2017 年 8 月 11 日 下午 1:46 
引用自 kevin.b.harris
blah blah blah

As of 8/11/2017, I have to move on and that means that my account must be dead and so it is. I might never-come back to this. I am hoping that EVGA will refund my GTX 1080 that I invested for this. It was an $800 graphics card that I put-forth to game.

blah blah blah
Such an epic sob story!!! :steamsad:So sad... bye bye :steamsalty::steammocking:
CATTY&Co. 2017 年 8 月 13 日 上午 6:03 
I bought Arma 2 in a sale over 12 months ago and uninstalled it again today before I got to play it, as soon as I saw it wanted to install a third-party service. I don't care if it works well or is a good service or if it genuinely prevents hackers, all of the other ones of these I've seen in the last 20+ years (most recently Uplay) have been so ghastly that I'd rather throw away a game I bought than install one.
76561198228324104 2017 年 9 月 14 日 下午 2:55 

引用自 Rammur
battleeye is it seperate company it was used long ebfore arma got up and runnin it was used in some of the older versions of battfield gtho with ya propaganda . works great too like any anticheat it isnt 100% accurate.


it cant be 100% because its a never ending battle between hackers and anticheat battle eye finds a hack the new version is rdy to launch then it starts over but battle eye is a good tool compared to other anticheat systems :)

Right, I agree. Can they really refuse customer support to the pool of players that were banned because of some sort of false detection? One out of the ten men that were innocent are still innocent, and now punished accross multiple titles. It does not seem fair to me. I'm in doubts that it's even sustainable. Historically, that does not work. Hysterically, that is what I think is happening here.

Support behind my claim is that I have a ticket with an automated response that it was filed. It was filed 40 days ago. I have never recieved a response that it was opened, closed, or a conclussion. I visited their twitter and I found (paraphrased) "If someone feels offended, then please visit https://www.battleye.com/support/ and click the contact link, but global bans happen for a reason". Then, I also found where another client was complaining about not recieving an email and they responded to that tweet with "That's the standard response."

To me; the credibility of the numbers that they advertise on twitter is shot, it's dead. Means nothing, because as those numbers increase the game chances at losing a player and has definitely lost a profile. It's within reason if the person did hack the game. However, it maybe too expensive because their is likely a body of players that did not cheat at all. Especially when players recieve this grade of support.

I think: You banned me, that is offensive if I did not do anything. My ticket should be first-class because I do deserve a justification when your product affects me accross many titles, takes out 2,000 hours played, and can ruin my entire purpose with hardware I spent $1,500 on.

I maybe wrong though. Feel free to express your thoughts on this (Similar Case).

引用自 https://twitter.com/bohemiainteract/status/583326012051685376
"@Ironside32 @TheBattlEye @dayzdevteam if anyone feels offended, please make them contact BattlEye support, but bans happen fo a reason." ~ Bohemia Interactive

引用自 https://twitter.com/bohemiainteract/status/583326012051685376
"@dayzdevteam @bohemiainteract @TheBattlEye Yes and Bohemia. BE didn't even bother replying to any of my messages. Hence feeling unvalued." ~ Messy

引用自 https://twitter.com/bohemiainteract/status/583326012051685376
"@dayzdevteam @bohemiainteract @TheBattlEye But since they lack the decency to even reply, how are you supposed to dispute something?" ~ Messy

引用自 https://twitter.com/bohemiainteract/status/583326012051685376
"@Messy_Turkish @dayzdevteam @bohemiainteract You got a standard response. Your ban is valid and we will not discuss this any further." ~ BattlEye


I'm really angry that their are people who have recieved support like that, especially because I too, have recieved support just like that. Because of this, this reference:

引用自 https://twitter.com/PLAYERUNKNOWN/status/907913534964506625
".@TheBattlEye has now banned over 150,000 cheaters from @PUBATTLEGROUNDS, with more than 8,000 banned in the last 24 hours alone! GG WP"

Is null and void to me personally (as a dev) because that is 150,000 users affected; some innocent. They also use their numbers for marketing, but the value of those numbers should be highly depreciated in my oppinion. Each innocent case will come back and hurt them more than all of the dishonest cases that they rightfully banned. Again, historically speaking.

What they are doing that is right is that they stressfully, and like all the time.... continue to advance the product and continue to work out little kinks. I'm righted my bitter-sweet spot with BE. I don't want them to recieve the left hand. I think it's going to happen though. I think that it has too.

I know that the way they are operating against the libel act. We can't let those that predated us label us, and we cannot let the wrongs hide those who were right.

To say the only way to receive a global ban is to violate the EULA while the EULA only states that deliberate or passive methods to hack are prohibited. The software detecting the bans is an auditing software. Their are millions of ways to use a computer. Some of these methods; the everyday user rightfully does. BE should be renown as the judgmental auditing software. That again, is an opinion though.
最後修改者:76561198228324104; 2017 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:05
:WTF: Grendel 2017 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:08 
引用自 Desserted
wall of text
You can beg, plead, and state your case here but sadly... No Dev will respond to your issue here. You can take it to Reddit... no Dev will directly respond to you there either regarding your game ban. You will need to contact Daybreak directly through their website and jump through hoops. Do not contact BattlEye. Contact Daybreak through their official website.
最後修改者::WTF: Grendel; 2017 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:08
76561198228324104 2017 年 9 月 14 日 下午 3:10 
The current business model does not work, it will not work, it cannot work, and it's not about what I could or could not do to end it either. How they are operating has just never worked, historically speaking.

Metaphorically speaking, we cannot let one bad apple spoil the basket of bad apples because their are still goods inside.
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