Master Tradesman & Pyromaniac achievement

[anders190]

Hello! I've been hunting the achievements for this game. Only ones that's left is Master Tradesman, Pyromaniac and Protector of the Realm.

I think I've got the latter ones figured out but I'm kind of stuck with Master Tradesman. Is it only items (pick-upable ones) that's being counted or everything you can look at in the game?

I think I'm close of getting it, trying to look everything over in the game but some pointers might be good. Would've been nice if the achievement counted each step. I'm still enjoying the game so I don't mind it that much. :)

EDIT: Added Pyromaniac achievement to the title.

[beavinator]

It's everything you look at. It popped for me when I was looking at a stationary object in a room. I do not know if EVERY item counts or not...I just went through the game and made sure to look at every single thing that glows when you hit F2 in every room, and made sure to do it again anytime anything happened that would give any item a new description, just to be safe.

I STILL can't get Pyromaniac, and I have been through several times now just torching every possible thing. It's very irritating.

[anders190]

Originally posted by beavis:

It's everything you look at. It popped for me when I was looking at a stationary object in a room. I do not know if EVERY item counts or not...I just went through the game and made sure to look at every single thing that glows when you hit F2 in every room, and made sure to do it again anytime anything happened that would give any item a new description, just to be safe.

I STILL can't get Pyromaniac, and I have been through several times now just torching every possible thing. It's very irritating.

Thanks for the clarification! :)
I had been using look at about everything just in case. I started a new master playthrough earlier in the evening and while looking at tapestries at the Banquet Hall Master Tradesman finally unlocked.

Like you, I still have that Pyromaniac achivement left to do now. Will have to try getting it tomorrow but hopefully there isn't much left. I'm not sure if I'm doing to much (if I see a scroll on the floor, I first quicksave then burn it, quickload, pick up, burn in picked up state, quickload, pick up, open, burn (unless its a key-item or spell scroll I won't reload)) but hopefully that will do it. :)

I've also thrown (almost) everything in the inventory in lava flow, study and furnace. Some scrolls and sacks probably is everything that's left to pick up.

If I see something that might be missable (and hasn't been mentioned in the other threads) I will suggest it. :)

[beavinator]

Man...I didn't think to try burning the books and scrolls in different states, I just burned them all where I found them (saving before spell scrolls and restoring). Nor did I bother throwing anything in the fire/lava pits, as a dude in another thread indicated that only torchable items count. I suppose it's possible he was wrong... Let me know how you do.

[anders190]

I just got Pyromaniac and Defender of the Realm! :)

I followed kamikaze9699 suggestions ( http://steamcommunity.com/app/294440/discussions/0/613940477813749503/#c613941122837241695 ) as well as burning every state of the items in the list. A scroll lying on the ground, burn, quickload, open on ground, burn, quickload, pick up, burn... and so on. Also tried burning a lot of items in lava flow. Items with variations (the flute and its holes) was burned at every state up to four holes.

I might have been doing to much for it to unlock but it eventually unlocked while burning one of the last books in the game that was placed under a desk. Nice finally having it and hopefully the solution for you might be in there somewhere too. :)

I guess that guy was right. Quite sure that I never destroyed any of the items in the guard room so items that can be destroyed with torch should be the ones that count.

[beavinator]

Well alright then, I guess I'm just gonna have to try burning every scroll and book and item in every state both in and out of inventory, because I already followed kamikaze's list and it still didn't work for me. Can't believe I have to play through the whole thing AGAIN. Don't get me wrong I like the game a LOT, but at this point I'm getting kind of sick of it.

Unless...here's a question. His list has the 5 logs in the Study on it. But unless I did something wrong, those are NOT burnable by the torch. Did you just throw them in the pits as I did, or did you find a way to torch them?

[anders190]

I remember dealing with these. There is a difference in in what way you use the torch. Use -> Torch -> Object works best, the other way usually fail. I did burn them but not sure if it was with the torch or fire pit. After burning them for fun and profit I did quickload so they were left just in case so as not to risk having to restart the game. Spell scrolls was burnt and afterwards quickloaded and read/learned them.

The teared parchments that would form a spell was burnt before combining, then burnt after combining, and last read/learned.

I think I tried to torch most of the outfits too. Might be worth trying out if you haven't.

I understand how you feel about it. I was just aiming for 50% of the achievements but really liked the game. And considering how much time spent trying to get the achievements I really wanted the last few too. :)

[beavinator]

Yeah, I did the torn parchments both individually and together. Same with the Halloween mask. The only wearables that would burn were that and the blindfold, I think.

I've been a Shadowgate fan since the original NES version, so I was bound to love this game, and try for all the achievements. It's when there's just that ONE you can't get that it's especially annoying there's an "achievement for getting all other achievements", because then you're missing two instead of one.

[beavinator]

Woohoo, I got it! Fortunately I didn't have to go too far, I got it when I burned the scroll in the Wizard's Den. And it happened on the first burn, so I suspect the whole "multiple states" thing is irrelevant. I must've just missed that one somehow in my previous attempts.

Mmm, that 100% tastes good, doesn't it? :-)

[anders190]

Nice to see you getting it 100% too! :D

I take your experience as confirmation that that almost OCD level of burning that I did shouldn't be needed. :)

EDIT: Forgot to comment on the NES-version. I love that game, fond memories playing it with a friend in the early 90's. :)
My first playthrough on this version was with the retro/NES soundtrack. Tried playing with the NES transisions but choose the newer one in the end.

[beavinator]

Man you just reminded me...I was so focused on seeing all the new stuff and then getting all the achievements, I forgot to ever even try out any of the retro modes! Perhaps I'll be playing this through once more after all... :-)