why is ai art bad?

[REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY]

like if you have a program that can make a better product why stay with artiests then? even game devs are gonna use ai to make games since it will be the next cutting art tech. that one game the finals uses ai voice acting i think and its low key kind of clean. i see nothing wrong with technology in gaming.

[goobs]

because its simply not making a better product, the ai assets in this game are ugly af, and asking people to buy a battlepass of ai art is embarrassing. ai is not intelligent like you think it is. it takes images from around the web, and morphs it into one image essentially, and is basically art theft. its not cutting edge anything, its just low quality, ugly slop. hire real artists, the REAL art in this game is great, but cheapening it with this ai slop is whack.

[Even Skinier]

1- What's the purpose of writing all of this at some game thread on Steam, instead of writing it on Reddit?

2- AI Art won't be the " next cutting art tech", (for awhile at least) 'cause it's needed when you want your expenses and time wasted - at minimum

3- What's even the purpose of art, music and etc. automatization by AI, if the general purpose of such things - is delivering pleasure (both: artist and viewer/listener)?

So... i wouldn't even bother arguing, 'cause the actual value of that kind of "automatization" it minimal. I can appreciate Grok or ChatGPT, because they let you find some information or help compact knowledge of the learning subject

[(｀▽´)]

Well I guess if you don't want the unique innovation that the human mind brings, but just use AI to recycle what has already been done. Arguably that's what we already essentially do, except there's that thing we once celebrated called self-expression and artistry. Like even going back to ancient stone or bone beads made by people living far more technologically primitive times, there was skill expression and innovation.

The industry will stagnate, just as other creative industries already have. The concern is it will outpace us as it already has completely changed how we live.

Due to saturation point, and basic economics, most multiplayer games have to use bots to give illusion of a player base or provide a seamless user experience. With AI you have can generate exponentially more product that does not scale to the target population/audience.

But you could eventually eliminate the games studio industry entirely, and have AI create whole new multiplayer games experience that have zero other actual players, but it feels to us like playing a multiplayer shooter, maybe with 9 year olds swearing at you from across the world in simulated voice chat as well. Only it was all created by an AI and there will just be an AI prompt for us just like we can use AI to make pictures or videos now. No need for programmers or creative directors or anyone like this.

It's funny even real artists are getting work rejected because it looks like AI. We're probably all living in a simulation anyway. One that is just eternally self-replicating fractal engine.

[The baa!]

because they cant push their dei agenda anymore and got displaced with chinese ai
as an artist myself i have no sympathy

[Diviy]

You are part of the whole problem. Alone the thought that AI art can be good in ANY way is disgusting to me.

[RhinoBarbarian]

The baa! lähetti viestin:

because they cant push their dei agenda anymore and got displaced with chinese ai
as an artist myself i have no sympathy

This comment is somehow even dumber than what OP wrote.

[moo mew moo]

In it's conception, A.I. art programs were "trained" on real art from human artists without their consent.
On a separate note, iirc a game must disclose if it uses A.I. art on it's store page according to Steam's TOS (see Night Club Simulator's store page as an example). However there is none. Which is also extremely bad legally for them, and misleading the customer if true

[Sarin]

idk man many people did write a negative review bc of the AI skins that u could buy where i am liek okay don't buy them if u dont wanna support AI than don't buy it, but i bet these are also the People that use ChatGpt to write a 2 sentence email for them.

[♡]

REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY lähetti viestin:

like if you have a program that can make a better product why stay with artiests then? even game devs are gonna use ai to make games since it will be the next cutting art tech. that one game the finals uses ai voice acting i think and its low key kind of clean. i see nothing wrong with technology in gaming.

Someone who can't write a single paragraph talking openly about the moral question of AI art. Only on steam forums.

[FMAN]

The baa! lähetti viestin:

because they cant push their dei agenda anymore and got displaced with chinese ai
as an artist myself i have no sympathy

this

[haeҳҳlor]

REALiNSaNgAMingGODPrODIgY lähetti viestin:

like if you have a program that can make a better product why stay with artiests then? even game devs are gonna use ai to make games since it will be the next cutting art tech. that one game the finals uses ai voice acting i think and its low key kind of clean. i see nothing wrong with technology in gaming.

First of all, you are conflating AI with TTS.
Second, if you 'see nothing wrong with AI in gaming', then you should educate yourself better.

But the most important thing here is that the game fails to disclose the use of AI, even though that is a mandatory requirement:

"3) Generative Artificial Intelligence Content
The third part of the survey deals with generative artificial intelligence in your development or product.

If your game used AI services during development or incorporates AI services as a part of the product, this section will require you to describe that implementation in detail:

Pre-Generated: Any kind of content (art/code/sound/etc) created with the help of AI tools during development. Under the Steam Distribution Agreement, you promise Valve that your game will not include illegal or infringing content, and that your game will be consistent with your marketing materials. In our prerelease review, we will evaluate the output of AI generated content in your game the same way we evaluate all non-AI content - including a check that your game meets those promises.
Live-Generated: Any kind of content created with the help of AI tools while the game is running. In addition to following the same rules as Pre-Generated AI content, this comes with an additional requirement - in the Content Survey, you'll need to tell us what kind of guardrails you're putting on your AI to ensure it's not generating illegal content.


As an aside, AI in games is rapidly evolving and we want to get it right. Many artists and creators are rightfully concerned about exploitation and misuse. But we also realize that technology and tools are going to change a bunch over the years, and there are lots of creative game developers out there figuring out ways to ethically use AI to make great entertainment. If you plan to release a product on Steam and you think we're overlooking something important in regard to AI, we'd love to hear from you."

That is directly from the Steamworks Documentation:
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/gettingstarted/contentsurvey

[Xyr1um]

it is not, some "artists" are mad cuz they know that their art is so bad that it can't even compete with ai

[111]

because it looks like sh1t

[BloodW0lf]

ai art is fine in this context, people just like being bandwagon idiots

[Bird]

i’m not supporting ai art in anyway or anything like that but can someone point out to me where in game it’s used?