Already *swarmed* with cheaters.

[Albert Minigolf]

Oh my God it's been out for a few days and it's already oppressive. Hopefully ranked is better because standard has people tracking through walls, aim stick and full on string snapping.

[HappyPinkFlower]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Baphomeat:

rant

And anti-theft door kicks burglars from your apartment… But I agree that “anti” is used in both ways (i.e. antibiotic). But in terms of Internet security, “anti” is used to “prevent” an attack, theft, etc.
How to do this? I have no idea. But I just noticed it's the only way of effectively countering cheating. Banning them after cheating doesn't help because they return in a week.

[DtHouse]

It's a free game, what did you expect? Cheaters can come back any times, with 0 effort xD You should now know, by times, that all the free shoter have the cheater plague.

[HappyPinkFlower]

"Free" is surely one of the incentives, but paid games also have problems with massive cheating. Imho yet another problem with cheating, perhaps the most important (already raised in this topic), is people don't recognise cheating as harmful. Cheating now is like piracy in the early 2000s. Developers fought together with piracy because they saw it as their problem, obviously. But now seems like they don't consider enough cheating as their problem. I bet cheating to some degree is even profitable for them in a way that tons of doubtful videos with impossible achievements (in first-person shooters mostly massive numbers kills) simply attract people to their games.

[Baphomeat]

Opprinnelig skrevet av HappyPinkFlower:

And anti-theft door kicks burglars from your apartment… But I agree that “anti” is used in both ways (i.e. antibiotic). But in terms of Internet security, “anti” is used to “prevent” an attack, theft, etc.
How to do this? I have no idea. But I just noticed it's the only way of effectively countering cheating. Banning them after cheating doesn't help because they return in a week.

So you just admitting to cherry picking definitions to fit your narrative.

Thanks... no one can trust anything you're saying because you outright admitted to manipulating information.

I don't accept that I need go to a job to make money, because the definition of work includes "be engaged in physical or mental activity in order to achieve a result; do work." Which means that I should be getting paid to play games, since i'm engaged mentally in the game. <- this is a more blatant version of what you just did. Unreliable information and manipulation of information makes anything you say irrelevant to any conversation because you can't be trusted.

You can't just ignore that one word means something because it doesn't fit your narrative that you're pushing. That's not how reality works.

[YESHUA]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Albert Minigolf:

Oh my God it's been out for a few days and it's already oppressive. Hopefully ranked is better because standard has people tracking through walls, aim stick and full on string snapping.

controller players are an issue. BIG ISSUE. they those software to put sticky aim into their controllers and other cheat scripts. its horrible.
fragpunk should do a better job at banning simple cheats like rapid fire trigger. and rapid trigger
first days were ok but as soon as people realized game was fun the cheaters are all over.
cs2 cheaters are already here
its not pleasant anymore to play fragpunk
fragpunk will die if they dont start banning cheaters
as soon as fragpunk increased the movement pace the movement speed cheaters swarmed this game
DEVS nerf sniper, nerf movement pace, nerf jumping. make it slower pace. it helps making cheaters bored to hell
start banning hardware IDs such as motherboards, SSDs and all hardware you can ban
IF FRAGPUNK ALLOWS CHEATERS NOW THEY WILL NEVER LEAVE THE GAME
FRAGPUNK WILL DIE FAST
BANNING CHEATERS IDs IS THE ONLY SOLUTION. BAN PHONE NUMBERS, ALL HARDWARE, HOME NETWORKS USED. BAN THEIR STEAM, BAN IT ALL

[HappyPinkFlower]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Baphomeat:

rant

I'm sorry. I think I shouldn't have replied to your post…

[YESHUA]

Opprinnelig skrevet av DtHouse:

It's a free game, what did you expect? Cheaters can come back any times, with 0 effort xD You should now know, by times, that all the free shoter have the cheater plague.

CODMWII costed me 40$ and was plagued with cheaters.

[Dex]

what are yall smoking? aint no cheaters in this yet lmao

[PR]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Blackdeth:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Comics:

There are a lot of cheaters in this game. I have been playing shooters for many years, and as a teenager I played online games with cheats.
And I can say with confidence that all the people who say "you just don't know how to play". Or those people who say that there are no cheaters in the game, in fact, with a probability of 99%, they themselves play with cheats. It is not beneficial for them that player complaints and their dissatisfaction reach the developers

There aren't that many cheaters in this game. I have been playing shooters for many years, as a teenager I never used cheats in online games. And i Can say with confidence that all the who say "You just don't know how to play" or those people who say that there are no cheaters in this game, in fact, with a probability of 99%, they themselves don't use cheats. They are just better then you at the game, and you are coping.

Feel free to provide proof of cheats beyond "Im bad and got killed therefore they are cheating".

yup i am bad when the enemy is tracking me thure walls

[Luminaris]

Opprinnelig skrevet av DtHouse:

It's a free game, what did you expect? Cheaters can come back any times, with 0 effort xD You should now know, by times, that all the free shoter have the cheater plague.

i expect companies to care for the games they make for the people whether its free or not its not an excuse to allow this

[NotAPanda]

Yeah definitely a lot of cheaters. Shooting behind corners and walls, no dmg, aimbot, wallhacking. Very easy to spot since not even trying to hide that they are using these hacks.

[NotAPanda]

Opprinnelig skrevet av HappyPinkFlower:

"Free" is surely one of the incentives, but paid games also have problems with massive cheating. Imho yet another problem with cheating, perhaps the most important (already raised in this topic), is people don't recognise cheating as harmful. Cheating now is like piracy in the early 2000s. Developers fought together with piracy because they saw it as their problem, obviously. But now seems like they don't consider enough cheating as their problem. I bet cheating to some degree is even profitable for them in a way that tons of doubtful videos with impossible achievements (in first-person shooters mostly massive numbers kills) simply attract people to their games.

This is absolutely true. They don't want to completely remove it just contain it enough so they can keep milking idiots who pay for any product (game) these days. If game isnt 100% cheat free, no one should be paying for it. Better to let the game die than provide fun for the cheaters.

Note that in Rainbow Six Siege they had 1 hacker in every single match by their own statistics. And thats a paid game that published how many hackers they had banned and thats just the ones they managed to spot automatically or by manual means. Just think how many hackers this one has since its free and hyped!

[Albert Minigolf]

Opprinnelig skrevet av NotAPanda:

Opprinnelig skrevet av HappyPinkFlower:

"Free" is surely one of the incentives, but paid games also have problems with massive cheating. Imho yet another problem with cheating, perhaps the most important (already raised in this topic), is people don't recognise cheating as harmful. Cheating now is like piracy in the early 2000s. Developers fought together with piracy because they saw it as their problem, obviously. But now seems like they don't consider enough cheating as their problem. I bet cheating to some degree is even profitable for them in a way that tons of doubtful videos with impossible achievements (in first-person shooters mostly massive numbers kills) simply attract people to their games.

This is absolutely true. They don't want to completely remove it just contain it enough so they can keep milking idiots who pay for any product (game) these days. If game isnt 100% cheat free, no one should be paying for it. Better to let the game die than provide fun for the cheaters.

Note that in Rainbow Six Siege they had 1 hacker in every single match by their own statistics. And thats a paid game that published how many hackers they had banned and thats just the ones they managed to spot automatically or by manual means. Just think how many hackers this one has since its free and hyped!

I also honestly think a lot of devs sell hacks for extra cash. There is zero way some of these games like Apex can have the level of issues they do and ban like 600 people a season.

[Kuri ツ]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Comics:

There are a lot of cheaters in this game. I have been playing shooters for many years, and as a teenager I played online games with cheats.
And I can say with confidence that all the people who say "you just don't know how to play". Or those people who say that there are no cheaters in the game, in fact, with a probability of 99%, they themselves play with cheats. It is not beneficial for them that player complaints and their dissatisfaction reach the developers

u are just bad

[Rando]

Don't think there are alot of hackers, but a lot of bot players new to this genre. Footsteps are super loud and most people, I see, are running around blind corners and getting melted. Also there are lanes in games like this so you can always assume someone is watching where u r walking. Maps are small so options are limited. TTK is low so it's hard to call someone out for cheating when good players look like thier cheating when they utilize all those tools. TLDR; prawly need to get gud as the kids say