FragPunk

FragPunk

Rizako Mar 19 @ 12:19pm
Imagine
Imagine making a fun game that had a great beta just to ruin the full game afterwards with AI art and ♥♥♥♥ monetization.
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"ruin the full game with AI".... OMG imagine being so obsessed and so disconnected from how AI works that you can't tell the difference between an AI-generated image and one that isn't. But sure, it's easier to accuse people who have clearly demostrated having an excellent artistic team (which is pretty evident from all the game designs) without a single piece of evidence to support your claims. :steamthumbsup:
JuiceBox Mar 19 @ 3:14pm 
Wish I could give OP a clown award but I dont want to waste my points.
Guh Mar 19 @ 3:14pm 
look look, ai art booOoOo 👻
this is not the problem, the cheats is the real problem
Why you should really care about IA..? I hope future games not envolve artists at all. Takes to much time to make games and the cost is getting higher.

Cheaters are destroying the game, that's the real problem
Sarin Mar 19 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by Андрей в говне:
Originally posted by Sarin:
I have a blast in this game; I really love it. And if I’m right, the AI claim is just in one Reddit post I’m not trusting something just because one dude posts about it. The whole AI theme is a tricky subject. On one side, I can understand some people saying they use AI, but then I’m like, I couldn’t care less it’s a multiplayer 5v5 game. If they used AI in some good singleplayer game, I wouldn’t even buy it because it would ruin the immersion. but hey welcome to the Future everything is with AI nowdays. expect to see more games and Hardware that uses AI
and to the point of monetization you should post about Valorant ot COD with their overpriced skin bundles. the bundles are bit overpriced but if u just wanan buy one skin out of it its like 10bucks or something like that a fair price in comparision to Valorant where u would pay for a gun with finisher and all 25bucks or more
In Valorant you support a developer who is not only focused on the profit from the project, they are also focused on the comfort of the player, fair conditions, quality content, quality servers, work on bugs, they read reviews and do a lot... Do you know what you paid for? I'll tell you what, they have already pulled a new project into beta, Enginefall... That's what you paid for

Riot Games and quality content man, I never thought I’d hear those two words in one sentence.

As for the comfort of the player, I’m not sure about that. Still, even if all of this is true or whatever, does it really justify skin bundles for 100 bucks or a League skin for 500 bucks?

Do you have a source for Enginefall? The only thing I found is that they’re from Red Rover Interactive and have veterans from Ubisoft, Bohemia Interactive, etc., and they are located in Oslo. I also looked up Fragpunks Bad Guitar Studio is a subsidiary of Thunder Fire Studio (NetEase Games), located in Hangzhou, China.
BrenBRD Mar 19 @ 5:16pm 
if Ai art ruins a game for you that is sad and pathetic my guy
Stop the cap there is no AI.
game JUST came out for 1 and for 2 it hasn't even had its console release. with console being pretty dry i can assure you this games player base ill be FINE once it comes to consoles as free to play and again if you didnt catch that, FREE. TOO. PLAY. no crap theres alot of monetization its what funds the future development of the game. how slow can some of you be ??
Originally posted by Duck:
Wish I could give OP a clown award but I dont want to waste my points.
i'll waste them for you
Originally posted by Sarin:
Originally posted by Андрей в говне:
In Valorant you support a developer who is not only focused on the profit from the project, they are also focused on the comfort of the player, fair conditions, quality content, quality servers, work on bugs, they read reviews and do a lot... Do you know what you paid for? I'll tell you what, they have already pulled a new project into beta, Enginefall... That's what you paid for

Riot Games and quality content man, I never thought I’d hear those two words in one sentence.

As for the comfort of the player, I’m not sure about that. Still, even if all of this is true or whatever, does it really justify skin bundles for 100 bucks or a League skin for 500 bucks?

Do you have a source for Enginefall? The only thing I found is that they’re from Red Rover Interactive and have veterans from Ubisoft, Bohemia Interactive, etc., and they are located in Oslo. I also looked up Fragpunks Bad Guitar Studio is a subsidiary of Thunder Fire Studio (NetEase Games), located in Hangzhou, China.
In fact, I am not sure about Enginefall, but the same advertising method, stories about veteran creators of another game, again, every soul was allowed to Beta Test. I also checked with some news channels, all they could say was that all 3 recent ads (Marvel Rivals, FragPunk and Enginefall were paid for by the same person, without clarification).

I played Valorant for 2-3 hours, but my friends play more, in principle, I trust their judgment.

Regarding the price, this is an eternal question. I myself am an amateur 3D modeler. I can assure you that the complexity and time spent on creating a model has increased significantly. Due to the complexity, there are potentially fewer suitable 3D designers left, and due to the time spent, the costs of maintaining 3D designers in the studio have also increased.

Why the difference is 2-3 times... Because FragPunk uses AI to create the model, they are sometimes corrected by not very good 3D designers. That is why you see such a strange sight on some sniper rifles in Fragpunk
This method I'm talking about costs 10 times less than what you pay... As for Valorant with such prices, it's unlikely that they raise an incalculable wealth... Especially now, when 10 or even 100 Chinese games, which individually are not much but in general take a decent amount of online (the numbers on Steam are not correct, these Chinese games fake them, that's why there are bots in NetEase games to hide the lack of online).
I haven't seen the player count fall below 15K and I've checked it every day before i hop on. Also in reference to the AI art, get used to it and get on board because the utilization of AI in nearly everything, including creative spaces is just inevitable. The game is a nice blend between casual and competitive, games don't go on too long which is nice to just run a few without a long commitment, plus it will have a good console launch. F2P game, so dont complain about pricing of extras, I have bunch of skins already without any purchases. If you dont like it then your welcome to go buy a game for 60$ and then buy add ons for online on top of the purchase price.
The negative aspects of using AI are quite obvious. But many people think there is no problem with it.
Sh. Fred Mar 20 @ 3:22am 
Originally posted by Андрей в говне:
Originally posted by Sarin:
I have a blast in this game; I really love it. And if I’m right, the AI claim is just in one Reddit post I’m not trusting something just because one dude posts about it. The whole AI theme is a tricky subject. On one side, I can understand some people saying they use AI, but then I’m like, I couldn’t care less it’s a multiplayer 5v5 game. If they used AI in some good singleplayer game, I wouldn’t even buy it because it would ruin the immersion. but hey welcome to the Future everything is with AI nowdays. expect to see more games and Hardware that uses AI
and to the point of monetization you should post about Valorant ot COD with their overpriced skin bundles. the bundles are bit overpriced but if u just wanan buy one skin out of it its like 10bucks or something like that a fair price in comparision to Valorant where u would pay for a gun with finisher and all 25bucks or more
In Valorant you support a developer who is not only focused on the profit from the project, they are also focused on the comfort of the player, fair conditions, quality content, quality servers, work on bugs, they read reviews and do a lot... Do you know what you paid for? I'll tell you what, they have already pulled a new project into beta, Enginefall... That's what you paid for
Ah man, I bet any LoL player would get a good laugh out of your description of Rito, and probs Valorant too, at least those older than 7.
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