I love this game but why is it releasing in 2025

[SenjuWoo]

Why won’t it release before, the beta was smooth… I swear if they are stalling the release just for the console port ima go crazy

[6koga]

i love the game but the beta was obviously not smooth lol, there is still a lot to work on and balance. 2025 will come pretty fast and we will obviously have more playtest before the full release.

[SenjuWoo]

Hopefully, but uh? I played the beta and had a blast I don’t see what was not balanced or what needed work, the game already has more content and better graphics then valorant

[jame]

it was actually an alpha so i was even more impressed. the game is solid, id give it an 8 or 9/10. a bunch of customization, replays, pretty well balanced, it seems like it would be good if it came out now

[SenjuWoo]

Originally posted by jame:

it was actually an alpha so i was even more impressed. the game is solid, id give it an 8 or 9/10. a bunch of customization, replays, pretty well balanced, it seems like it would be good if it came out now

Oh wait it was just an alpha? dang well yeah the game is amazing man I cant wait

[Ginga]

There is very clearly a lot of work to be done. The current map pool is not nearly enough, nor is the current catalog of Lancers for the long term. The card system while fun is not set up for any type of ranked play and needs more to flesh that out.

Balance in general, regardless of what you saw does need some balancing as well. A few of the abilities were very clearly stronger than others, and some of the weapons were very obviously better and played much more than others. The weapon thing can be argued that because you can't infinitely use the same weapon if you die with it, taking the good weapon can be a bit more strategic, and I would agree to an extent. That being said I do think some of the others were a bit more underwhelming and I had no reason to take them over the course of a match. On the topic of weapons, some thought may need to go into what happens when ranked mode is released that presumably has more rounds and the pool of weapons is no longer enough.

I understand wanting it to release, but I don't think many people understand the work that has to go into what I laid out above. A lot of work has to go into the creation and balance of maps and characters to be ready for release.

[SenjuWoo]

Uh? I agree with the maps but the rest is fine, all games doesn't have perfect balance

[Ginga]

It doesn't matter whether you're fine with the balance or not. The fact of the matter is, for any game to last it needs to have

A. Enough content to keep people satisfied until new content can be released for a live service type of game. This is to include maps, Characters, modes, cards, or anything else along these lines
and
B. Balance. Regardless of what you're satisfied with doesn't matter. The majority of the player base has to be happy, not to mention that this style game is almost ALWAYS going to be a competitive game, and the competitive crowd needs balance. On the topic of balance as well, any character and map, or anything else for that matter will need extensive testing and balancing to make sure they have no issues. Considering you agree that they need more maps and lancers to come out, then it needs to be understood that creating these things take time, and properly testing and balancing these things take time.

Originally posted by SoraOni:

all games doesn't have perfect balance

No game will ever have "perfect balance" but if you don't get it as close to the mark as possible, you're going to fail.

[SenjuWoo]

Originally posted by Ginga:

It doesn't matter whether you're fine with the balance or not. The fact of the matter is, for any game to last it needs to have

A. Enough content to keep people satisfied until new content can be released for a live service type of game. This is to include maps, Characters, modes, cards, or anything else along these lines
and
B. Balance. Regardless of what you're satisfied with doesn't matter. The majority of the player base has to be happy, not to mention that this style game is almost ALWAYS going to be a competitive game, and the competitive crowd needs balance. On the topic of balance as well, any character and map, or anything else for that matter will need extensive testing and balancing to make sure they have no issues. Considering you agree that they need more maps and lancers to come out, then it needs to be understood that creating these things take time, and properly testing and balancing these things take time.

Originally posted by SoraOni:

all games doesn't have perfect balance

No game will ever have "perfect balance" but if you don't get it as close to the mark as possible, you're going to fail.

Well what about more early access time then :P

[TJ]

Originally posted by Ginga:

It doesn't matter whether you're fine with the balance or not. The fact of the matter is, for any game to last it needs to have

A. Enough content to keep people satisfied until new content can be released for a live service type of game. This is to include maps, Characters, modes, cards, or anything else along these lines
and
B. Balance. Regardless of what you're satisfied with doesn't matter. The majority of the player base has to be happy, not to mention that this style game is almost ALWAYS going to be a competitive game, and the competitive crowd needs balance. On the topic of balance as well, any character and map, or anything else for that matter will need extensive testing and balancing to make sure they have no issues. Considering you agree that they need more maps and lancers to come out, then it needs to be understood that creating these things take time, and properly testing and balancing these things take time.

Originally posted by SoraOni:

all games doesn't have perfect balance

No game will ever have "perfect balance" but if you don't get it as close to the mark as possible, you're going to fail.

You can't win these days.

People: release the game it's fine we played the beta everything was great. Just fix it after and let us play.

So people: why did you release the game early it's nowhere near ready I'm bored now, everything is broken

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Ginga]

Originally posted by SoraOni:

Well what about more early access time then :P

The point of the playtests are to test the things that devs are working on, us getting enjoyment is secondary to that. They already have more playtests planned, but that won't happen until they have enough new things to test to be meaningfully worthwhile to them.

Personally I'm glad they're not trying to release into early access. More developers need to be committed to releasing finished products

[Ginga]

Originally posted by TJ:

You can't win these days.

People: release the game it's fine we played the beta everything was great. Just fix it after and let us play.

So people: why did you release the game early it's nowhere near ready I'm bored now, everything is broken

😂😂😂😂😂😂

You really can't, no matter what you're not satisfying some subset of your playerbase.

That being the case, IMO you're better off upsetting the ones that want it now and release the game when it's done and polished. You'll have a better game for it and the group that wanted it then will still come back. If you release early to appease the latter group though, the former group will leave.

[SenjuWoo]

Originally posted by TJ:

Originally posted by Ginga:

It doesn't matter whether you're fine with the balance or not. The fact of the matter is, for any game to last it needs to have

A. Enough content to keep people satisfied until new content can be released for a live service type of game. This is to include maps, Characters, modes, cards, or anything else along these lines
and
B. Balance. Regardless of what you're satisfied with doesn't matter. The majority of the player base has to be happy, not to mention that this style game is almost ALWAYS going to be a competitive game, and the competitive crowd needs balance. On the topic of balance as well, any character and map, or anything else for that matter will need extensive testing and balancing to make sure they have no issues. Considering you agree that they need more maps and lancers to come out, then it needs to be understood that creating these things take time, and properly testing and balancing these things take time.


No game will ever have "perfect balance" but if you don't get it as close to the mark as possible, you're going to fail.

You can't win these days.

People: release the game it's fine we played the beta everything was great. Just fix it after and let us play.

So people: why did you release the game early it's nowhere near ready I'm bored now, everything is broken

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Trueeeeeeeee

[SenjuWoo]

Originally posted by Ginga:

Originally posted by TJ:

You can't win these days.

People: release the game it's fine we played the beta everything was great. Just fix it after and let us play.

So people: why did you release the game early it's nowhere near ready I'm bored now, everything is broken

😂😂😂😂😂😂

You really can't, no matter what you're not satisfying some subset of your playerbase.

That being the case, IMO you're better off upsetting the ones that want it now and release the game when it's done and polished. You'll have a better game for it and the group that wanted it then will still come back. If you release early to appease the latter group though, the former group will leave.

Then just make a paid early access 5head

[Ginga]

Originally posted by SoraOni:

Originally posted by Ginga:

Then just make a paid early access 5head

I don't know if you understand what I just said. What I said has nothing to do with money. In fact making it a paid early access would likely make the problem way worse.

[SenjuWoo]

Originally posted by Ginga:

Originally posted by SoraOni:

I don't know if you understand what I just said. What I said has nothing to do with money. In fact making it a paid early access would likely make the problem way worse.

I’m just trolling lol I know, it’s just I have not had fun In a new game for a while now, I’m tired of waiting for gta 6 and new games 😔