Crystal Descent.. rather disgusted!!

[Mac===1952]

Fell off a ladder and ended up on the bottom.. not sure I can recover anything.

[Mush]

yes you can, it might take a few platforms depending on where you landed but you can get pretty much everywhere in that place.

[MaddogDino]

There's also some Black Diamonds close by for map stone repair.
Bit of fighting but doable.

[Draco18s]

I think the most annoying thing about this section of the map is that you spend FIFTEEN BLACK DIAMONDS for...

...some rope ladders

We repaired a mechanism and that mechanism doesn't even do anything.

[Mac===1952]

I worked out a rather inelegant solution.. tore down an existing map stone for 'parts' and built another map stone at the location of the death maker. Recovered all the gear and returned to my main base via the map stone in the Mines section. There was no easy way (that I could see) to build ladders up and out of that particular location.

[Mac===1952]

The cost to repair that lift, and only to end up with rope ladders was indeed annoying.

[gandalf.graycloak]

Originally posted by Draco18s:

I think the most annoying thing about this section of the map is that you spend FIFTEEN BLACK DIAMONDS for...

...some rope ladders

We repaired a mechanism and that mechanism doesn't even do anything.

IKR!!

It's like waiting at the theme park for the awesome new roller coaster then you get a turn and it's some old guy from a hospice home pushing you around on a Home Depot lumber cart with one of the retainer bars scrunching up your groin.

[william_es]

Originally posted by gandalf.graycloak:

It's like waiting at the theme park for the awesome new roller coaster then you get a turn and it's some old guy from a hospice home pushing you around on a Home Depot lumber cart with one of the retainer bars scrunching up your groin.

ORRRRRRR... it's just a standard gating mechanism as seen in many many many other games. No hyberbole needed or required.

[hyperion_500]

I agree, the game really does need more mechanical devices, starting with that lift being able to raise and descend.

[Draco18s]

Originally posted by william_es:

ORRRRRRR... it's just a standard gating mechanism as seen in many many many other games. No hyberbole needed or required.

It's a false gate. I'm fine running around collecting 15 Widgets to open a door. It's the fact that after opening the door I turn around and realize that it was a door in a free-standing wall that I could have just walked around, I just hadn't tried to walk around it because doing so would have been kind of tedious.

(And then get tasked with building the rest of the wall before I can continue).

Originally posted by Mac===1952:

I worked out a rather inelegant solution.. tore down an existing map stone for 'parts' and built another map stone at the location of the death maker. Recovered all the gear and returned to my main base via the map stone in the Mines section. There was no easy way (that I could see) to build ladders up and out of that particular location.

Yeah. Getting out isn't easy. Heck, getting down without taking lethal fall damage isn't easy. The last prebuilt ladder leaves you hanging in mid air 30 feet from the nearest wall. Expected solution is apparently to use "temporary" platforms to build out to your location as best you can (it ends up being like 1 platform shy of getting under the ladder, but at that point you can just jump to your "bridge") and building another ladder down. Which ends up an annoyingly 10 feet short of the next platform. As in, no fall damage getting down, but too high up to be able to jump back up onto.

I actually died once building the neccessary platform to solve that particular issue.

And of course I was doing this all as I went before getting to the bottom, whereupon I find...

...a map stone.

I went to all that work and it won't even get used.

[[RGB] Scooter]

Bring stuff to build a stone hearth so you can build any platform you need. It feels like a nuisance at first, but the game just asks you to think creatively. I really enjoyed it actually, same as getting down the whole shaft further down.

[Draco18s]

Originally posted by RGB Scooter:

Bring stuff to build a stone hearth so you can build any platform you need. It feels like a nuisance at first, but the game just asks you to think creatively. I really enjoyed it actually, same as getting down the whole shaft further down.

You can build V and F platforms anywhere, you don't need a hearth.

[Died]

Originally posted by Draco18s:

I think the most annoying thing about this section of the map is that you spend FIFTEEN BLACK DIAMONDS for...

...some rope ladders

We repaired a mechanism and that mechanism doesn't even do anything.

I 100% Agree. This should've warned me to give up on this game... this was such a huge missed opportunity, they build this cool setpiece, you spend all those resources...and then.... you get 2 rope ladders that barely get you down at all.