deadlocked myself in the deep

[Ank Myrandor]

I'm going to be honest. I'm enjoying this game very much.

but this is basic game design. you cannot deadlock people. I'm stuck down there without a black diamond to get back up. and can't mine anything to build anything.

so I'm stuck.


make it so there is a way to get at least 1 black diamond for the teleport repair.
or make it that you can start building again.

this will get you negative reviews and people stop playing your game.


and no , no one is going to replay the game in a new world to get to the mines of moria to grind for new black diamonds.


TLDR:

toxic members keep on jumping here with insults and mocking me.

toxic members are :

VanDerSol
Macdallan
william_es
gerald2
chaoslink
StableDancer
ybgbgl
Logical Maneuver
Crunchy[Daz]
ReasonableRobert


If you want to know why your game is failing? it's because of people running into problems and these members among others are telling and mocking people you are playing the game wrong.

this is a detriment to your game, not a benefit.

[VanDerSol]

I understand your pain.

Would you like a black diamond?

[Chaoslink]

Black diamonds can be found down there by killing orcs, breaking the totem in their camps to open their chests or looting some special tiles.

You can rest to recover stamina by breaking some of the black rocks you may occasionally see to get coal to make a campfire. Cloth for the bedroll and wood to make a food table is basic to get as well. Some chests to store items in this temporary camp can alleviate inventory issues as well, allowing you to freely explore until you acquire the diamond.

Its also possible to use natural fibres to craft rope ladders to get back up the descent without teleporting, though it’s much easier if you placed them on the way down. The rope ladder is one of three things I know of that can be built without a hearth nearby, the third being the dock which you might have recently unlocked with the collection of Ubasam wood.

You are not stuck, you just need to be resourceful and possibly change up your gameplay loop to overcome the obstacle now facing you.

[Ank Myrandor]

I've been down there for 90 minutes now and managed to make 2 wopping iron ingots.


I know I'm technically not stuck, but no one including myself is going to do this.
I've been looking for goblins but no luck with the drops. And I cant build a forge. I'm not spending 10 hours here just because the developers didnt do the bare minimum, which is using a non smooth brain.

[Macdallan]

You should be able to climb up from anywhere using platforms. No iron needed, no black diamond needed. Scraps of wood and natural fibres ought to do the trick.

[william_es]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

You should be able to climb up from anywhere using platforms. No iron needed, no black diamond needed. Scraps of wood and natural fibres ought to do the trick.

I built series of quick platforms all the way down the entire thing, like steps. Then I went back up and filled in gaps where I had simply jumped down (was being lazy). It is possible.

You can also get black diamonds are a possible drop from hordes. So mine out a deposit and make as MUCH noise as you can. Sing, bang pots and pans, hire a marching band, etc until a horde gets triggered.

If you're having trouble handling hordes, you can tunnel up into the deposit if you're careful.
When you're mining you should aim up at a 45 degree angle. When a chunk of stone disappears, jump up into the void you created, and repeat it again, aiming upwards at a angle while you mine. Very quickly you will create a whole set of steps. The orcs usually can't follow you up channels that you mined out yourself. The mining deposit becomes a safe area you can retreat into.

[Ank Myrandor]

I cant mine with a steel pickaxe down there , that is the whole problem

[gerald2]

Originally posted by Ank Myrandor:

I've been down there for 90 minutes now and managed to make 2 wopping iron ingots.


I know I'm technically not stuck, but no one including myself is going to do this.
I've been looking for goblins but no luck with the drops. And I cant build a forge. I'm not spending 10 hours here just because the developers didnt do the bare minimum, which is using a non smooth brain.

so what you want all resourcess dropping from ceiling in 1st biome?move ur ass explore u will find iron and coal for ingots and orc camps for diamonds....

[Ank Myrandor]

Originally posted by gerald2:

Originally posted by Ank Myrandor:

I've been down there for 90 minutes now and managed to make 2 wopping iron ingots.


I know I'm technically not stuck, but no one including myself is going to do this.
I've been looking for goblins but no luck with the drops. And I cant build a forge. I'm not spending 10 hours here just because the developers didnt do the bare minimum, which is using a non smooth brain.

so what you want all resourcess dropping from ceiling in 1st biome?move ur ass explore u will find iron and coal for ingots and orc camps for diamonds....

listen you condesending sht, are you daft!?! I explored until the deep, which is after the mines of moria. you need a first descendant pickaxe, which I can't build because I need the iron first !

DO YOU SEE THE DESIGN FLAW HERE YOU M*****

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Ank Myrandor:

I cant mine with a steel pickaxe down there , that is the whole problem

You don't need to. I already explained what you need to do.

[Chaoslink]

I mean, if all you need is a diamond to get the teleporter up and running, why not just die and go get one back at base? If you don't want to do that, just go find a camp of orcs, kite them away from the camp and go break their flag. Leave a distance then come back when they either despawn or are no longer angry. Grab the key when you can and just open the chest for a diamond.

Ultimately, this is just a lack of preparedness. I typically enter a new biome with 6 coal and at least 3 ingots to build a repair forge. The whole point is to have the materials on hand to set up a small camp, minus the materials that are easy to scavenge like cloth or wood. If I know the camp might be something I revisit often, I bring diamonds and whatnot for a mapstone.

Also, when does the Quarrymaster pick unlock? That masterwork pick can mine down there as well as Adamant stone afterwards as well. Steel picks can also mine the small limestone looking rocks here and there for some granite that you can't mine normally with that pick.

Like, at this point I'm not seeing anything sugesting you're remotely stuck, you just don't seem to want to put in effort to unstuck yourself and are doing the classic "it can't be my fault, the devs just suck" response which is only correct in like 1 in every million cases its used. There's going to be a little adversary here that you need to overcome, just do it and move on. Not really seeing the problem here.

[Macdallan]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

I mean, if all you need is a diamond to get the teleporter up and running, why not just die and go get one back at base? If you don't want to do that, just go find a camp of orcs, kite them away from the camp and go break their flag. Leave a distance then come back when they either despawn or are no longer angry. Grab the key when you can and just open the chest for a diamond.

Ultimately, this is just a lack of preparedness. I typically enter a new biome with 6 coal and at least 3 ingots to build a repair forge. The whole point is to have the materials on hand to set up a small camp, minus the materials that are easy to scavenge like cloth or wood. If I know the camp might be something I revisit often, I bring diamonds and whatnot for a mapstone.

Also, when does the Quarrymaster pick unlock? That masterwork pick can mine down there as well as Adamant stone afterwards as well. Steel picks can also mine the small limestone looking rocks here and there for some granite that you can't mine normally with that pick.

Like, at this point I'm not seeing anything sugesting you're remotely stuck, you just don't seem to want to put in effort to unstuck yourself and are doing the classic "it can't be my fault, the devs just suck" response which is only correct in like 1 in every million cases its used. There's going to be a little adversary here that you need to overcome, just do it and move on. Not really seeing the problem here.

Good advice.

Exactly right, nothing suggesting they're actually stuck. They're simply trying to do things the hard way and it's not working out very well for them. If they listen to some of the advice in this thread they'll be out of there in no time.

[Ank Myrandor]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

Originally posted by Ank Myrandor:

I cant mine with a steel pickaxe down there , that is the whole problem

You don't need to. I already explained what you need to do.

no one inlcuding me is spending 4+ hours on platforms to get back out. it took me 45minutes to get down. how long do you think it's going to be to get back up ?

that is just a no. and people that are absolutely daft about how about dying? is I have my bedroll down there, that was the first thing I did.

so yes I am stuck there. yes I am disabled and play with a controller so everything is a lot slower.

anyone else here a problem with me playing?

I did not design this trap, I didn't even want to jump in there. so you can laugh all you want like the Iq less developers out there t hat made this without a clear solution you can work for.

I've been down there for about 4 hours now.
trust me this is costing you a big userbase because you want to be elitism and laugh.


you guys are the worst, the first reply here was still the best. you can have some if you like. that is at least a solution. but the developers should give one. it shouldn't be the case that I have to create a new world to grind one faster than being stuck down there. while you guys are laughing that is the wrong way to play hahahahahahahahah

what an idiot, hahahahaha, developers made a trap and stuck him down there hahahahahahha


guess what? that's why people don't have the achievements. and like this. you'll never have a playerbase ever that want to be a part of this.

[johnisaroundhere]

How about moving your character onto a new server, then getting supplies and going back into current game. I believe that's a possibility.

[Ank Myrandor]

Originally posted by johnisaroundhere:

How about moving your character onto a new server, then getting supplies and going back into current game. I believe that's a possibility.

It is and I had to do it, but still this shouldn't be the case in game design. the developers know this. this is just ridiculous if you randomize things.

[johnisaroundhere]

I understand your frustration. I personally would like the ability to choose spawn point after death.