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The orcs in the Elven Quarter do not have black diamonds, so there is no reason to farm them.
Later orcs can drop black diamonds, and they are the ones some people farm. Another choice is to trigger horde raids because they usually have black diamonds. (Once you reach the Mines. Before that I don't think they ever have black diamonds. You don't have to be in the mines for the raid, just be that far along in the game.)
I have destroyed about 8 banners so far. Two of them did not give me a key (about 25%!). I knew they were supposed to give a key, so I looked around extensively. I even cleared all the rubble and stuff in the area trying to find them. I just recently learned the trick of spamming E, but haven't had a chance to try it yet.
So keep in mind that you can create new map stones for 3 Black Diamaonds, (not to be confused with the ones you can repair for only 1 BD), but at the end you need 15 to get into the Crystal decent. Even more after that to repair the stairs etc.
as example, to repair the final bridge you need 50 Black Diamonds
But at the mines, like stated above, you need to harvest 15 Blackj Diamonds. They can drop from Orcs but also the chest at the Orc king holds a vast quantaty of BD.
(several Orc kings to defeat in the game, minimum of 1 per level)
The reason I said not to destroy it was due to the black diamonds drops. so i guess you answered my 2nd question if i don't destroy the flag how do i get the Orc Key.
I just logged in and that banner in the first picture is gone i didn't destroy it it was there last night.
so key was not found but I discovered you can use your pick Axe on the chest and crack it open not needing a key.
I have the Horde Frequency turned to its lowest I got tired of them Destroying my ♥♥♥♥. I guess i'll play around with it when i have better equipment.