first ranger camp??

[Jaglet]

I cant find this thing at all. Any videos I have seen are apparently old and the map has changed. Playing campaign Any points in the right direction would be appreciated been looking for hrs running all over the stinking mines

[Ghiron]

Unfortunately the map is random. In my game, I had to find a staircase down to a lower level of the mines. That staircase was the only way in or our of that area where the ranger camp was.

[Jaglet]

The map is random even in campaign mode? I thought only the sandbox was random??? They REALLY need a way to turn the map so it ONLY shows the level you are actually on.... pretty poor mapping method

[hottnova75]

Part of the fun is playing the memory game. You could draw a map on a paper if you get lost that much. I like the mapping because you have to figure it out. And it adds to immersion. You have to make camps and find things while navigating the enemies. Having nearby camps makes traversing Moria more tenable. Try to keep things in the pack for making camps to advance.

[Dreadstone]

1) Map is terribad.

Moving on.

2) When you open your map, look at the index on the left. That will give you your depth (Fathoms) as well as the depth of the camp. There is a possibility said camp is behind a wall you haven't tunneled through yet, or up / down a flight of stairs.

[Jaglet]

thx for the replies. Not having an issue getting lost just cant seem to find the ranger camp. That being said there are some walls I cant tunnel thru due to only having a 2nd tier pick. I just assumed I could do a stage of the game without the next stage tools. So went forward and got to the bottom of the crystal shaft going to build the new pick today and see if the camp is behind one of those high tier rock blockages. Hopefully and if it is I am going to kick myself for all the time I spent searching multiple times thinking I had just missed it.

[Jaglet]

Last question no one has answered yet but is the campaign map different for everyone or is it standard?

[MoNoXiDe]

Originally posted by Jaglet:

Last question no one has answered yet but is the campaign map different for everyone or is it standard?

its all the same order but the rooms/places to build and where things are placed are a lil different.

[Ghiron]

Originally posted by Jaglet:

thx for the replies. Not having an issue getting lost just cant seem to find the ranger camp. That being said there are some walls I cant tunnel thru due to only having a 2nd tier pick. I just assumed I could do a stage of the game without the next stage tools. So went forward and got to the bottom of the crystal shaft going to build the new pick today and see if the camp is behind one of those high tier rock blockages. Hopefully and if it is I am going to kick myself for all the time I spent searching multiple times thinking I had just missed it.

There's more ranger camps as you progress, and they require scrolls found from that zone. The scrolls found in Lower Deeps only go to the Lower Deeps ranger camp. You'll need to go back to the mines if you want that one.

The ranger camps only unlock alcohol recipes, so you're not missing much if you don't find it (other than OCD from not fully completing the area...). I still never found the Lower Deeps camp in my game.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Jaglet:

Last question no one has answered yet but is the campaign map different for everyone or is it standard?

The very large and identifiable rooms like the elven quarter and initial mines of Moria are guaranteed and will always show up predictably. The offshoot rooms that you’ll recognize repeating from time to time are randomly generated though. If you make a second world, you’ll still enter the mines in the same large tile coming from the same elf quarter tile, but the rooms that come in between that big tile and the crystal descent tile will be different.

In sandbox mode it’s really easy to stumble into areas of a higher tier than you, but many of the large rooms you get in campaign won’t spawn.

[Judah]

What's a Ranger camp look like? I've been to what appears to be an abandoned house with herbs in planters.

[Dreadstone]

1) In-game map is terribad. Best advice I can give is open it, look at your elevation, and the elevation of your objective.

2) Campaign map and recipes are different than Sandbox.

3) Ranger camp looks like two sides of an old stone building, a bed (that can be repaired), a fireplace (that can be repaired), a chest (with items inside), and a "Ranger's Manual" that requires the correct "Ranger's Scrolls" to unlock the recipe / knowledge.

[Jaglet]

Thx a lot for all the info. I am a new player and if it matters to anyone I FINALLY found the camp. It was on the bottom level of the mines down stairs and was in a super large room that was indeed in an out of the way pathway that I just missed, I had checked 3 sides of the bottom of the stairs but totaly missed the side facing east. This was a totally me issue but yah the mines can be confusing apparently as to what you have explored or not.

Thx again for all the input and advice it has actually helped

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Judah:

What's a Ranger camp look like? I've been to what appears to be an abandoned house with herbs in planters.

Very ruined building, sometimes in a very out of place location, but basically a few short and crumbling walls about as tall as you at its highest. There’s a campfire and bedroll you can repair there. Usually has a few small planters and a chest with a Ranger page and food/herbs you can plant. The journal you have to repair with the pages is usually on some of the stone ruins, just a little open book.

[Judah]

Thanks everyone for the help

I'm pretty sure I found it right before the elven quarter. It was a dilapidated buildings and had planters in front.

[Kaery]

The first ranger camp is in the Mines. So... Behind the Elven Quarter, not before.
When people are saying 'very ruined building', they don't mean the dilapidated, but still recognizable buildings you find before the Elven Quarter. What they mean is literally just a few stones still on top of each other, marking a roughly rectangular area that contains a bedroll and a campfire. ...Or rather, the ruined (but repairable) remains of both. It's enough to see 'there once was a structure here', but nothing else.
I found mine in the literal last place I looked. Don't get hung up on the planters, those are around here and there. Remember bedroll and campfire (plus planters), inside hints of a structure.