How the SOCOM community is being overshadowed by PC players.

[TotesBro]

Anyone else noticing a trend here... Seems the "true SOCOM" players aren't being listened to and the ones who are running out of games to play are constantly overloading the boards here and elsewhere with fake positive reviews. Can i get an, 'Amen'?

I estimate about 75% of the so-called SOCOM Community aren't even 'here' yet. They are all console players. I myself bought a gaming PC just to try this out. And i hope in a few months this game feels like a Spiritual Successor to SOCOM should.

Those of us who are genuinely SOCOM lovers be sure to leave fair and honest reviews! Let's take back our Community and help this game become great!

In conclusion, I'm disappointed. Great thoughts and ideas behind the game, I'm just not seeing the practical side just yet. It seems this game has a LONG road ahead before it feels like it should.

[StrikeThePing]

I'm certainly not fake, I'm not new to SOCOM, nor am I new to Early Access. Given their goals for this game as stated back during the kickstarter I in no way expected a polished or even remotely complete experience at this point.

My expectations was a barebones playable yet unbalanced, unpolished, and buggy release by early to mid 2015. That's what I expected and that's what I got. So far it's on track to me and the roadmap they released while not containing dates pretty much confirms my assumption that this game will go gold by the end of 2017.

By the end of this year I expect things will be in a much more acceptable (but still flawed, anticheat likely generic if present at all) state for those who didn't have any idea of what the hell they were buying into.

[TotesBro]

Origineel geplaatst door Esaubro:

I think it's an overstated assumption that positive reviews are from NonSocom players. Alot of them were in the BETA hence knowing of the game from the Kickstarter or Bake Sale. I believe that there are many Socom players who are happy to have Socom back and are willing to actively contribute rather than trying to constantly sabatoge for altterior motives. Constructive critisism is more than welcomed an hidden agendas are easily seen. True Socom players will latch on to this game and carry it to the console .

Too long. Stopped reading after "overstated assumption".

It's an overstated assumption that this game is "great" like some people are claiming. Let's be real. At the time being this game is bare bones and barely playable. Those kinds of wild generalizations make me wonder how many people are spamming the boards and for what ulterior motive, you know?

Origineel geplaatst door ISO Strike the Ping:

I'm certainly not fake, I'm not new to SOCOM, nor am I new to Early Access. Given their goals for this game as stated back during the kickstarter I in no way expected a polished or even remotely complete experience at this point.

My expectations was a barebones playable yet unbalanced, unpolished, and buggy release by early to mid 2015. That's what I expected and that's what I got. So far it's on track to me and the roadmap they released while not containing dates pretty much confirms my assumption that this game will go gold by the end of 2017.

By the end of this year I expect things will be in a much more acceptable (but still flawed, anticheat likely generic if present at all) state for those who didn't have any idea of what the hell they were buying into.

Those were expectattions set by you though... A lot of us donors had expectations based on the promises the studio released. And no one called you fake. Just saying.

[[TKW] Vice_President]

I have to say that I am sick of this whole console/pc/pc gamers are not SOCOM fans war going on. I played SOCOM 1 & 2 countless hours and NEVER bought a PS3 or PS4. Does that mean that I am not a SOCOM fan because I don't play consoles anymore..??. No. Nor does it mean that I think that consoles are bad. Consoles have their places and so do PC's. I have personally grown away from consoles because I love the freedom I get with my PC (something you will never get with consoles). However consoles are superior in their own rite due to the fact that they all have the same internal hardware and make for a more even playing field (baring connectivity issues). You will never get the type of game/graphics quality out of a console that you can out of a pc. Each has its pros and cons...

The Fact of the matter is, H-Hour is being developed on PC because it makes sense from both a monetary and tech standpoint. Furthermore just because it is on PC does not mean that the people playing don't know what SOCOM feels like.

And before anyone calls me a PC elitist (or whatever). Yes I ONLY play PC because I dont see the point of buying a console with what I can get on a PC and I quite frankly dont like using a controller anymore. But as I stated before I do think consoles have their place and I have nothing wrong with them. They can be hacked just like a PC (albeit, hacking a game that is in its early phases on PC is super easy), the longer the game has been out, with proper support, the less likely you will be to find a hacker.

I DO NOT think that PC players are overshadowing the concept of the game, rather I think that they are bringing much more to it that it could ever have if it were not released on steam. Steam can do wonders for games, just do a little research on how expensive it is for a game studio to put out a game for console, then on top of that how much it costs them to patch the game... let alone the amount of time it takes for a console to approve a patch for the public. Yea sure SOF could have going the route of straight to PS4 but they would have NEVER gotten there.. now we have a chance.

[SwordOfWar]

The game is going to be made with mouse/keyboard as priority for the PC version, obviously. It makes no sense to focus on controller for a platform that is primarily kb/m. Most people on PC either don't play with a controller or don't have one.

If they ever make it to the PS4, that is where they can focus on a port with controller mechanics in mind.

As for the game being unfinished, well thats insanely obvious, and it's why it is on Early Access rather than a full release. If you haven't been able to figure that out by now you need some mental help. The game feels more like SOCOM than anything else out there right now, even in it's current state.

[Suade]

Origineel geplaatst door SwordOfWar:

The game is going to be made with mouse/keyboard as priority for the PC version, obviously. It makes no sense to focus on controller for a platform that is primarily kb/m. Most people on PC either don't play with a controller or don't have one.

If they ever make it to the PS4, that is where they can focus on a port with controller mechanics in mind.

As for the game being unfinished, well thats insanely obvious, and it's why it is on Early Access rather than a full release. If you haven't been able to figure that out by now you need some mental help. The game feels more like SOCOM than anything else out there right now, even in it's current state.

There should be no replies to this. Great post, get over it guys. We are on steam.

[CurrykidDiabolus]

Origineel geplaatst door 4th=GunneR=:

Anyone else noticing a trend here... Seems the "true SOCOM" players aren't being listened to and the ones who are running out of games to play are constantly overloading the boards here and elsewhere with fake positive reviews. Can i get an, 'Amen'?

I estimate about 75% of the so-called SOCOM Community aren't even 'here' yet. They are all console players. I myself bought a gaming PC just to try this out. And i hope in a few months this game feels like a Spiritual Successor to SOCOM should.

Those of us who are genuinely SOCOM lovers be sure to leave fair and honest reviews! Let's take back our Community and help this game become great!

In conclusion, I'm disappointed. Great thoughts and ideas behind the game, I'm just not seeing the practical side just yet. It seems this game has a LONG road ahead before it feels like it should.

i agree i did also buy a pc for this game to get my fix of what i remember to be hours of great fun and entertainment i will add that i am starting to get a feel of that sometimes playing this new socom but i do feel its all happening to slow and the majority of these changes are coming from people who play pc games in general but socom was always a console game. its really simple in my mind just re make a mix of socom one and socom two because thats where they were almost bang on.we all have our opinions but as to weather it will come rith who knows.