How the SOCOM community is being overshadowed by PC players.

[TotesBro]

Anyone else noticing a trend here... Seems the "true SOCOM" players aren't being listened to and the ones who are running out of games to play are constantly overloading the boards here and elsewhere with fake positive reviews. Can i get an, 'Amen'?

I estimate about 75% of the so-called SOCOM Community aren't even 'here' yet. They are all console players. I myself bought a gaming PC just to try this out. And i hope in a few months this game feels like a Spiritual Successor to SOCOM should.

Those of us who are genuinely SOCOM lovers be sure to leave fair and honest reviews! Let's take back our Community and help this game become great!

In conclusion, I'm disappointed. Great thoughts and ideas behind the game, I'm just not seeing the practical side just yet. It seems this game has a LONG road ahead before it feels like it should.

[Eagle 🦅]

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Escrito originalmente por King System:

OK, I seriously can't tell if you're trolling. Sweet baby jesus I hope so

How is this trolling? LOL Me and Eagle rarely agree but on this im totally in agreement. I would love if M/KB was banned lmao and controllers only but hey thats me

Look, I like PC gaming, I am 4 months new to all this.

With said, with console, everyone is on the same boat, all on console, all with the same controller. With PC, you can have a stronger PC, better mouse better anything if you upgrade. Now you throw in the 360, turn faster with the blink of an eye mouse controlls, in which thats what they are made for in the first place, point and click.

To me I want the controller feel & the same level playing field of console gaming. I want to upgrade my skillls with the learning curve within the game. Gun fights, strafing, flanking ect ect ect NOT upgrading my PC and accessories to help me improve. Thats just the way I see it. Just my opinion.

Im enjoying PC gaming not knocking PC players, there just two different systems. And we adapt to the play styles of each system.

[Unknown]

Escrito originalmente por Eagle_F15:

Escrito originalmente por 4th=GunneR=:

How is this trolling? LOL Me and Eagle rarely agree but on this im totally in agreement. I would love if M/KB was banned lmao and controllers only but hey thats me

Look, I like PC gaming, I am 4 months new to all this.

With said, with console, everyone is on the same boat, all on console, all with the same controller. With PC, you can have a stronger PC, better mouse better anything if you upgrade. Now you throw in the 360, turn faster with the blink of an eye mouse controlls, in which thats what they are made for in the first place, point and click.

To me I want the controller feel & the same level playing field of console gaming. I want to upgrade my skillls with the learning curve within the game. Gun fights, strafing, flanking ect ect ect NOT upgrading my PC and accessories to help me improve. Thats just the way I see it. Just my opinion.

Im enjoying PC gaming not knocking PC players, there just two different systems. And we adapt to the play styles of each system.

sof probably can make a server where it knows if people are using certain controls. in terms of stronger pc i dont think that matters. remember some people had SD tvs on consoles vs people with HD, that is the same situation right there. also people can use 3rd party controllers so it isn't as level playing field as you think. i remember people used turbo controllers with the m16 to make it auto. people cheat in COD on ps3,go and check. as long as a game is supported then cheaters can't win. it is only when a game is abandoned that cheaters win and take over.

[Eagle 🦅]

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Escrito originalmente por Eagle_F15:

Look, I like PC gaming, I am 4 months new to all this.

With said, with console, everyone is on the same boat, all on console, all with the same controller. With PC, you can have a stronger PC, better mouse better anything if you upgrade. Now you throw in the 360, turn faster with the blink of an eye mouse controlls, in which thats what they are made for in the first place, point and click.

To me I want the controller feel & the same level playing field of console gaming. I want to upgrade my skillls with the learning curve within the game. Gun fights, strafing, flanking ect ect ect NOT upgrading my PC and accessories to help me improve. Thats just the way I see it. Just my opinion.

Im enjoying PC gaming not knocking PC players, there just two different systems. And we adapt to the play styles of each system.

sof probably can make a server where it knows if people are using certain controls. in terms of stronger pc i dont think that matters. remember some people had SD tvs on consoles vs people with HD, that is the same situation right there. also people can use 3rd party controllers so it isn't as level playing field as you think. i remember people used turbo controllers with the m16 to make it auto. people cheat in COD on ps3,go and check. as long as a game is supported then cheaters can't win. it is only when a game is abandoned that cheaters win and take over.

What about things like FPS, DPI?

[strafeman]

There are hackers using mouse and keyboard on both consoles, its out there and people know it. In the socom days we voted out the hackers, and left when the clan we are facing was glitching, only thing that was actually ruined was the scoreboards.
Find yourself some good servers, and the hackers on pc will be banned.

[Double N'wah]

Oh lawd, people complaining about DPI giving an advantage and "hackers" with K&M on console, I think thats enough of this thread for me lol

[TotesBro]

Escrito originalmente por Remove Merchant:

Oh lawd, people complaining about DPI giving an advantage and "hackers" with K&M on console, I think thats enough of this thread for me lol

bye.. :)

[TotesBro]

Escrito originalmente por Eagle_F15:

Escrito originalmente por 4th=GunneR=:

How is this trolling? LOL Me and Eagle rarely agree but on this im totally in agreement. I would love if M/KB was banned lmao and controllers only but hey thats me

Look, I like PC gaming, I am 4 months new to all this.

With said, with console, everyone is on the same boat, all on console, all with the same controller. With PC, you can have a stronger PC, better mouse better anything if you upgrade. Now you throw in the 360, turn faster with the blink of an eye mouse controlls, in which thats what they are made for in the first place, point and click.

To me I want the controller feel & the same level playing field of console gaming. I want to upgrade my skillls with the learning curve within the game. Gun fights, strafing, flanking ect ect ect NOT upgrading my PC and accessories to help me improve. Thats just the way I see it. Just my opinion.

Im enjoying PC gaming not knocking PC players, there just two different systems. And we adapt to the play styles of each system.

I happen to agree with you bro! The controllers only thing is where its at. I feel like if i dont go buy all the right accessories/download all the latest apps, i will be at a disadvantage.


"To me I want the controller feel & the same level playing field of console gaming. I want to upgrade my skillls with the learning curve within the game." -EagleF15

Well said.

[Breakfast]

Escrito originalmente por O'C oGHeadShotKing:

pc is full of cheats at least with console everyone has same hardware and no cheats which is most important thing for online games

You must have never played the old socom games bro they where hacked to ♥♥♥♥.

[Deathstroke72]

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Escrito originalmente por O'C oGHeadShotKing:

pc is full of cheats at least with console everyone has same hardware and no cheats which is most important thing for online games

You must have never played the old socom games bro they where hacked to ♥♥♥♥.

Remember playing socom 3, and seeing guys flying around the map. lol

[BossGunny]

I know it will be awhile yet but I like their idea of giving us the server files and tools for them. Then hackers can be banned and my buddies and I don't have to put up with that crap. Not sure you could control whether someone was using a controller or a mouse though. I am getting better with kb/m now so parked my controller.
As to pace, did they not say 7-10 mths? I am satisfied so far with updates. They got big things to work on planned and I doubt those can be done in a week so I am patient and getting my fix playing when I have time.

[ShotgunRCAF]

Eagle, there are people playing with K&M on PS4, as for the question of hackers, just google PS4 hacks and you will see that nothing is sacred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1uHX_WQsEY

The difference here is that PC Gamers can Rent and Host their own Dedicated Servers which will show up on the server browser list for everyone to see and join, having a community Dedicated Server will also allow you to permanently BAN anyone caught hacking ,cheating or breaking Clan rules, Dedicated Servers gives your Community Control over their gaming environment, Clans can set up members to admin their servers, they can choose to set servers with whatever maps, modes and rules they want and like minded people will join those servers and add them to their favorites......a gaming community is born!

[TotesBro]

Escrito originalmente por ShotgunRCAF:

Eagle, there are people playing with K&M on PS4, as for the question of hackers, just google PS4 hacks and you will see that nothing is sacred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1uHX_WQsEY

The difference here is that PC Gamers can Rent and Host their own Dedicated Servers which will show up on the server browser list for everyone to see and join, having a community Dedicated Server will also allow you to permanently BAN anyone caught hacking ,cheating or breaking Clan rules, Dedicated Servers gives your Community Control over their gaming environment, Clans can set up members to admin their servers, they can choose to set servers with whatever maps, modes and rules they want and like minded people will join those servers and add them to their favorites......a gaming community is born!

OK but how will ANY of this transfer over to PS4? And i don't get your point. That is exactly the mentality of a PC gamer that i was referring to in my Title as "Overshadowing" the Console guys. Those EXACT abilities and responsibilities are what makes communities stay small. and no one will be able to cheat until five years down the road after the console version is released.

But i guarantee people are already able to cheat in this PC version due to the "open" nature of the game. Where they basically show us all the ins and outs of the coding.

SOCOM Confrontation was on the PS3 and the worst anyone could do to "hack" was to create a file on a Flashdrive and make your skin change to whatever you wanted. There was no flying, or Auto grenade launchers like the old SOCOMs. So how do you think someone would hack PS4? It's just ignorant to suggest that it will be easily done in comparison to the way people used to hack; Or to the current PC version.

Escrito originalmente por GunnyNades:

I know it will be awhile yet but I like their idea of giving us the server files and tools for them. Then hackers can be banned and my buddies and I don't have to put up with that crap. Not sure you could control whether someone was using a controller or a mouse though. I am getting better with kb/m now so parked my controller.
As to pace, did they not say 7-10 mths? I am satisfied so far with updates. They got big things to work on planned and I doubt those can be done in a week so I am patient and getting my fix playing when I have time.

You and the other PC elitists. LOL

[strafeman]

PC should be overshadowed because.... uhmmm.. its out for pc, not anything else. Maybe you should find a console forum, this is steam ... not ps4.

Plus, pc treats their top games better. Socom was fighting with Counterstrike for attention in many lan parties i went to, cs is still going, both the old version and the modernized ones- while socom was killed. Their servers STILL active was closed down by sony. And their hackers ruined that game to shreds, at least pc some fans can rent servers and police it long after the developers abandon ship- the option is there.

[KillScreen]

Escrito originalmente por APOC:

Only game I have ever played is Socom and this game sucks.

After 229 hours of gameplay? Even a full price game would be worth it.

[Poor Bastard]

Escrito originalmente por 4th=GunneR=:

But i guarantee people are already able to cheat in this PC version due to the "open" nature of the game. Where they basically show us all the ins and outs of the coding.

SOCOM Confrontation was on the PS3 and the worst anyone could do to "hack" was to create a file on a Flashdrive and make your skin change to whatever you wanted. There was no flying, or Auto grenade launchers like the old SOCOMs. So how do you think someone would hack PS4? It's just ignorant to suggest that it will be easily done in comparison to the way people used to hack; Or to the current PC version.

I know a guy who created an infinite ammo and rapid fire hack for SOCOM Conf. It's even on youtube. I don't think many cared to hack that game and those who did kept the cheats to themselves.

Hacking a PC game without an anti-cheat is easier, but what happens when you encounter a cheater on a console game? You are pretty much SOL and the hacker does whatever he pleases because there is no admin to ban him.