WDM/KS / WASAPI / MME32 bit ASIO

[flyinghitcher]

I have a Realtek High Definition Audio onboard sound (Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys), and I have had no end of problems getting any sound at all from this software.

I also have
CABLE Input (VB-Audio Virtaul Cable) (Driver Name: vbaudio_cable64_win7.sys)
AMD HDMI Output (AMD High Definition Audio Device) (Driver Name: AtihdW76.sys)
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) (Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys)

Things I've tried,
following the tutorial I & II
Reading a manaul for Sonar artist
Searching the web

The only thing that has vaugly worked is downloading some new ASIO drivers from
http://www.asio4all.com/

The sound is not that great... Sometimes the media browswer refuses to preview sounds, then when it does it interfiers with z3ta, changing the sound it plays to a choppy stutted effect. Things I havn't tried because I don't know how... checking if the audio drivers are allready in use. I have closeed down all likely programmes.. is there anything else I can do ?

[GibsonPro-Audio]

Mixing multiple devices that can't be clocked together can sometimes cause issues.

ASIO4ALL will be your best bet with integrating all those devices. It's basically a wrapper for all the WDM/KS or MME drivers,

You're likely experiencing some drop outs because the driver isn't able to reliably stream data. You'll want to experiment increasing the ASIO buffer size, this is in the ASIO4ALL control panel.

What is sometimes common, is other hardware causing hard faults, which could interrupt the audio streams. Take a look at this free latency monitor: http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

If you run that, it should test your system and let you know if there is a low level configuration problem which may interrupt streaming audio.

Also, feel free to call our tech support team. Free phone support is built into the price of SONAR and they may be able to quickly walk you through a few configuration/troubleshooting steps to get you going. www.cakewalk.com/support/contact

[opjose]

While I've had decent results with on-board Realtek integrated audio, getting Realtek drivers to work smoothly is difficult.

When you throw the VB-Audio Virtaul Cable into the mix, things go from marginal to worst.

First decide WHY are you trying to use the Realtek audio?

If you are using this as a temporary measure for audio playback then eliminate the Virtual cable, and get rid of ANY "enhancement" software you have installed on your laptop. Both are particularly important as they will interfere with DAWS.

Simply eliminating Dolby, Creative, etc. "audio enhancements" and panels does wonders to improve the cough * horrid * cough Realtek system.

If you are a bit more serious about the audio I/O invest in a better audio interface. It will transform your laptop's audio capabilities.

I'm assuming you are using a Laptop ( which tend to have latency problems anyway due to powersaving and miniturization compromises ).

If you are using a Desktop, consider a dedicated audio card. Even a low end "game quality" card with on-board audio processor improves things well over the on board Realtek Codecs even though they are really sub-optimal.

[flyinghitcher]

Thx for the replies,

It's a mini ATX form mobo, I have access to one PCIe slot, as the graphics card is huge, and blocks out all my other spare slots >.<
Gigabyte GA-HA65M-D2H-B3
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3914#ov

The VB cable is part of Rocksmith I think, allows me to play guitar straight through a USB device.

I would certainly consider buying a soundcard. Maybe the Creative OEM PCI-E Sound Blaster Z Soundcard

[GibsonPro-Audio]

Originally posted by flyinghitcher:

Thx for the replies,

It's a mini ATX form mobo, I have access to one PCIe slot, as the graphics card is huge, and blocks out all my other spare slots >.<
Gigabyte GA-HA65M-D2H-B3
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3914#ov

The VB cable is part of Rocksmith I think, allows me to play guitar straight through a USB device.

I would certainly consider buying a soundcard. Maybe the Creative OEM PCI-E Sound Blaster Z Soundcard

I'd probably recommend going with an external audio device that is USB. For example the Roland Duo Capture UA-11 is USB, will take a guitar signal and drive your headphones, is cheaper, will probably have better drivers (from my experience), and won't potentially block any airflow in the MiniATX. I use an older Cakewalk branded one for my laptop on the go and it's far nicer sounding than the Realtek.

The only internal interface cards that I've found to be worth it, at this point in time, are far above the Sound Blaster price point. In the past there was more variety, but the industry switched a lot towards USB/FireWire/Thunderbolt.

[flyinghitcher]

That might be the way to go then Seth, I can unplug it and use on my laptop if need'd.

[opjose]

Yup good advice.

[flyinghitcher]

A small update, Though it has been an intermittent problem of no sound, Now sonar has no sound permanently and Sonar.exe just hangs now when I try to adjust my sound preferences. even in task manager I can't stop the process. I've ordered a Roland Duo Capture UA-11, and will work on the issue when that turns up.

[GibsonPro-Audio]

Originally posted by flyinghitcher:

A small update, Though it has been an intermittent problem of no sound, Now sonar has no sound permanently and Sonar.exe just hangs now when I try to adjust my sound preferences. even in task manager I can't stop the process. I've ordered a Roland Duo Capture UA-11, and will work on the issue when that turns up.

Are you getting to a point of a crash taking place? We have an auto-reporter utility that will send back crash dumps. This would be helpful so we can see what's going on with some systems.

In the meantime, if you can get SONAR open, go to Edit > Preferences. Make sure you're set to advanced on the bottom of the window. Then go to Audio > Config File. Click the [Reset Configs to Default] button and proceed with the prompts. Hopefully that helps.

[flyinghitcher]

The crash was so bad, it wouldn't let me do anything like use an auto reporter, I tried the steps you outlined and managed to reset the config, worth a try, but alas it had no noticeable effect, and didn't prevent crash's

Today the Duo Capture arrived, I have installed it, and now sonars working fine in ASIO mode. Though extended periods makes it pop n crackly which forces a save and restart to resolve.

[GibsonPro-Audio]

Originally posted by flyinghitcher:

The crash was so bad, it wouldn't let me do anything like use an auto reporter, I tried the steps you outlined and managed to reset the config, worth a try, but alas it had no noticeable effect, and didn't prevent crash's

Today the Duo Capture arrived, I have installed it, and now sonars working fine in ASIO mode. Though extended periods makes it pop n crackly which forces a save and restart to resolve.

Re: Static Noise over time. Odd. I've actually experienced a similar situation like that with Rocksmith 2014 and a UA-1G. I didn't seem to have many problems once I went in and set my computer's power preferences to 'high performance'. Though that may not be related.

Did you try toggling the audio engine on/off button in SONAR before restarting? It's up in the transport control bar module.

If you can replicate the situation with the crackling, it may be good to run LatencyMon that I linked to above. It may pick-up where the issue is coming from.

[flyinghitcher]

No I didn't, haha, I was hoping there was something like that, as it sounds just the ticket to solve it. I will look next time it happens. muchas gracias.