A letter to devs, and marketing team

[🆂🆈🅽🅿🅰🆃🅷🆈]

This is not a rant, this a critic of how this has been handled, and how it has not been beneficial for you, the game, or the fanbase that has been waiting. Matter of fact...it's made it worse.

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First thing I want to get out the way is no, having the game release is not what this post is about. This is more about pointing out the flaws in how this was handled, and how it has made problems that shouldn't have existed in the first place. This is gonna be a long one folks, but 1 and half years is a long time to cover so...

Stopping the game release 2 weeks before launch

This a bold move. There is no other way to put it.

Remember this is NOT about releasing the game. But what followed this is where you started to make problems that didn't exist, or were seen as "Acceptable"...remember how many people said "take your time"

This statement will be important later

Saying nothing to the player base for 6+ months

This is were the downfall starts. To go into more detail from the start of this to this 6th month point, you had said that you had been able to take the game on full development and that the release would be canned for now do to getting a "mysterious benefactor" <-notice how that is still the best way to address them.

We are going to go down the list of mistakes here.

1. there are very few companies that can achieve the "mysterious benefactor" look at get great reception.
   
2. They withheld their name, this brings up natural the question of "why?"
   
3. we have no contextual understanding of what having 50+ developers have allowed you to do

Your response to all of these type of concerns, is, and I quote "We are working on it." Interesting response. The only way that would be reassuring is if you haven't been the whole time....which is a lie. You had been showing us progress up until that release date.

Now keep in mind, this is 6 months after people had already thought they would be playing the game now.

Now, you did not want to give monthly updates (and I completely understand that), but the way this was handled created something dangerous....doubt

now, how could this doubt been addressed

1. Had the lead developer and the representative of the "mysterious benefactor" come on to make a video talking and showing some side comparisons of something small. Like maybe a zombie animation or an environment of what we would of had, to what we will have, setting an idea of the benefit of this wait and why we should value this decision

notice how there was only 1 suggestion...it wasn't complicated. It took one step to address this and you wouldn't have to again for a long time

A year later...

This is a year and 6+ months later now. Let's go through what you has been addressed.

1. We do not know who delayed the game 1.5 years ago.
   
2. We do not know any new systems or comparisons to what we would of been given at the original release date (meaning the game itself) to what we are now
   
3. We do not have an end in sight.

Now, if you do not see the problem....you have set up a high expectation. Keep in mind you didn't really have a star lined game coming and yet you had "Take your time"

How often do you hear that now? "Take your time"

You see what happened is, you made it a gamble. by the lack of information you have allowed information to run rampant up until people have decided to not give you rent free time your brain with "what ifs"

You now have such a HIGH expectation that honestly, it's not fair...but also should of been completely avoidable.

You have turned your game into a slot machine for many when the reality is their expectation were low in the beginning and were just happy to see you guys make NMRIH2.

This the crux of this critic, you made a problem for yourself that didn't exist.

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While you may get the occasional "Take your time" you also have now "corpo crap game incoming" or even in some extremes "liars" which wasn't an issue before. While there are people that say that about everything, the the problem is not them...

If people saw what you we're going to give even if it's small scale, and idea of the reason this is good for us...then the ability to contradict that "corp crap" would be very easy. But now....we have nothing to say for your benefit, or in your defense.

Only doubt or hope, to fill it's place

That is not good marketing...that is gambling

[Husk com ressaca e te asefalando]

I was in discord the day they announced the delay a think was day 20 of outober ou 19 ou 18.

They literally say many times back outober of 2022 that they are VERY sorry about Doing That Being SO CLOSE to launching, but they didn't even know that they had Finally found a Partner to finance the game and make them able to work full time on the Game without Stopping, and that he had agreed to help Level Games and work together etc. Up to 1 day Before having to announce the delay.

It was out of nowhere that they FINALLY found someone to help them improve NMRIH 2 A LOT!

(Tt has already been Confirmed that it is not Ubisoft not Ea not any Chinese Company. The Project Leader of NMRIH 1 AND 2 Maxx, said that he MANY times deny any and ALL Chinese Companys that wanted to help the game, etc. for obvious reasons that Level Games Does not trust ANY of them , word from Maxx himself. )

And I don't want to be rude or sound like that....

But here's an official announcement that they only made on Discord for now, about when The Game will be released and WITH NO MORE DELAYS Expected to enter Early Acess in the second half of 2024

*Is in Channel NMRIH 2 Faq in they discord, just join in they server and se for youself *

And obviously this indicates that the game will be released again on October 31, 2024, as They want to do this for the Game to celebrate its anniversary along with NMRIH 1 and so On.

[Husk com ressaca e te asefalando]

here the imagem that Confirmat that https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3214667205

[evil burger]

It doesn't help that this isn't going to be a genre-defining title given the gravity of the situation. Not to mention that in all the blog posts detailed so far "concept art" is being forwarded as essential constructs for the team.

Concept art still being idealized when theoretically the game is six months away. Six months is not a lot of time for most developers to get into a polished and functional state of the game. It could be excused since it's Early Access, but typically if you want a project to continue on with support you would absolutely make sure the core gameplay mechanics are enjoyable and implemented correctly.

It has already been six years of development time, whereas only one year and six months of the extra support from the mysterious publisher. An entire reworking of the game's infrastructure would have had to happen given the additional resources, which would further incur valuable time.

If there's one thing that has me worried the most however, is how this publisher may seek a return on the investment of the game through microtransactions during the Early Access period. How would you implement microtransactions in a PvE objective and survival based game like NMRiH? Premium cosmetics are a guaranteed, but going any further than skins would be taboo considering they would have to invent new problems not for the consumer, but to themselves to create an additional source of income.

I'm hoping for more elaboration in the next six months.

[Gully]

No More Room In Hell 2
Added on 1/14/2021 ( remove )
this is when i added it to my wishlist.

Tbh Ready Or Not did the same thing, radio silent, bad marketing, had that game in my sights since 2017, even though a few times it was gonna be a scam/♥♥♥♥♥♥ game but look at how that game blew up. I hope the same will happen with NMRIH2.

i agree with your post tho and i hope they will give us some information/footage/background info.

Originally posted by 🆂🆈🅽🅿🅰🆃🅷🆈:

This is...
....that is gambling

[Voxiom]

Originally posted by gimmic:

NMRIH2 is being developed by Torn Banner Studios. Look at their community track record for Chivalry 2, and it will be more clear.

Speculation.

[Husk com ressaca e te asefalando]

Originally posted by gimmic:

NMRIH2 is being developed by Torn Banner Studios. Look at their community track record for Chivalry 2, and it will be more clear.

Dude, I don't know if you're the same person on Discord whose name literally says that this Company is the one that is a partner of NMRIH 2 and not STOPPPPPPPPP TO TALK ABOUT THIS

But.

Is this bad if it's true or not?

Doesn't it affect the game at all if it's them? That's just my question, is bad or not?

[Husk com ressaca e te asefalando]

Originally posted by gimmic:

NMRIH2 is being developed by Torn Banner Studios. Look at their community track record for Chivalry 2, and it will be more clear.

Well. as you didn't respond back. so it's a lie and you're just crazy like on discord :}

[🆂🆈🅽🅿🅰🆃🅷🆈]

Please keep this clean, this forum is NOT about starting fights, or venting frustrations. It's meant to be constructive.

You of course can disagree, but don't go calling out each other. Respect each other.

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If information is not verified on either front. just leave a pin in it until there is some. There may never be some, and that's ok too.

[Husk com ressaca e te asefalando]

Originally posted by 🆂🆈🅽🅿🅰🆃🅷🆈:

Please keep this clean, this forum is NOT about starting fights, or venting frustrations. It's meant to be constructive.

You of course can disagree, but don't go calling out each other. Respect each other.

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If information is not verified on either front. just leave a pin in it until there is some. There may never be some, and that's ok too.

Oki. Sorry

[Nicostromo]

All the gameplay is starting to look extremely dated, I hope this long delay means everything will be revamped because it looks like a game from 2006

[Jack Krauser]

Yeah I had high hopes for this game but now the release is starting to look fishier and fishier. I hope it doesn't ♥♥♥♥ up.

[Raptor]

As long as its not some DEI company involved.

[Legatus Jack]

You hit the nail dead center on what has been bugging me about this game ever since the delay

We basically have no point of reference showing how the game would have been on release without the support from the "mysterious benefactor"

Also the fact that the identity of said "mysterious benefactor" has yet to be revealed is making me very uncomfortable and concerned for the release & future of NMRiH2

[Asas]

Still irks me that we still don't know about the 'mysterious benefactor'. Got a few ideas as to why they may be but we still don't officially know anything.

[happy]

Originally posted by gimmic:

Originally posted by Husk com ressaca e te asefalando:

Well. as you didn't respond back. so it's a lie and you're just crazy like on discord :}

you were saying?

Damn, did you just speculate that, or did you know from Insider Info?