Ubisoft Influence

[RomeoAlpha552]

As much as I enjoyed playing FF7 Remake, FF7 Rebirth reeks of Ubislop RPG elements.

The entire game is full of side quests and objectives that are very boring and repetitive, Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring are the new norm, while things in those games can get repetitive but it's not on the same level.

The game is literally 30-40% main story and the rest is doing pointless side quests, which are important to ensure you stay leveled up.

I really hope for the next game, they do not go open world and do not bloat the game with unnecessary boring side quests.

I love the main characters and the story but out of the 80 hours I have spent so far, 50 hours could have been avoided if everything was not repetitive with absurd mini games and ubisoft level exploration.

Additionally, the open world feels forced, it doesn't feel genuine, they feel like minor extended areas of a world that is far bigger than what is shown.

[This PC]

elden ring has copy pasted side content rofl, the whole side content in ER is like 6 dungeons copy pasted, so much that you eventually know the quirks of each layout, and the bosses of the game rehashed. Not saying Elden Ring is bad, just criticizing your argument.

Alternatively, you can avoid the "ubisoft level exploration", doing everything will trivialize your playthrough anyways.

[RomeoAlpha552]

Originally posted by This PC:

elden ring has copy pasted side content rofl, the whole side content in ER is like 6 dungeons copy pasted, so much that you eventually know the quirks of each layout, and the bosses of the game rehashed. Not saying Elden Ring is bad, just criticizing your argument.

Alternatively, you can avoid the "ubisoft level exploration", doing everything will trivialize your playthrough anyways.

I already agreed to that but the amount of unique content that Elden Ring has is far ABOVE what FF Rebirth has, besides Elden Ring's gameplay favors the repetitive stuff far more compared to FF Rebirth.

[This PC]

no, you just don't like the side content on offering here, and that's fine.
you don't have to justify it lol, and you don't have to do it ^^''

[E-Commerce Meatualization Inc]

Imo it's a mix between BOTW and yakuza games. But then again i stopped giving ubisoft money almost a decade ago, so i have no point of reference for what they pass off as games these days.

I'm mostly having a blast tbh. There are some frustrating minigames here and there but some fun ones too. I grew up in the 90's tho so i've played way worse stuff that today is seen as classic, groundbreaking, and even mandatory gaming.

[This PC]

Originally posted by E-Commerce Meatualization Inc:

Imo it's a mix between BOTW and yakuza games. But then again i stopped giving ubisoft money almost a decade ago, so i have no point of reference for what they pass off as games these days.

I'm mostly having a blast tbh. There are some frustrating minigames here and there but some fun ones too. I grew up in the 90's tho so i've played way worse stuff that today is seen as classic, groundbreaking, and even mandatory gaming.

that's about my opinion as well~

[Danテディ]

I'd wish they would keep everything like the old originals. You had a bit side content which had interesting impact (Vincent cough)

Nothing felt forced, the game had a world map and normal areas for story content or specific dungeons.

It was extremely fun to get everything done to summon stuff like Neo bahamuth or his zero (which was super broken due to a skill chain loop)

I can't remember the exact time since the memory card is somewhere in a dusty box but it should be around 800 hours I've spent for the game back then (to be fair, I had a lot more time and motivation to play since almost every game felt unique and special 20-30 years ago

[RomeoAlpha552]

Originally posted by This PC:

no, you just don't like the side content on offering here, and that's fine.
you don't have to justify it lol, and you don't have to do it ^^''

Yes, I really don't and a lot of people don't either, check out comments and general opinions on this game and the majority absolutely despise the mini games along with boring traversal, the canyon region specially, that was the most boring.

[RomeoAlpha552]

Originally posted by E-Commerce Meatualization Inc:

Imo it's a mix between BOTW and yakuza games. But then again i stopped giving ubisoft money almost a decade ago, so i have no point of reference for what they pass off as games these days.

I'm mostly having a blast tbh. There are some frustrating minigames here and there but some fun ones too. I grew up in the 90's tho so i've played way worse stuff that today is seen as classic, groundbreaking, and even mandatory gaming.

Same I haven't played a Ubisoft game in the last 10 years and the last one I did followed the same path. just wish it was more fleshed out in FF Rebirth, it's not bad but it's not that great either, you are right, some of the mini games are fun but the side content sometimes get so extended that you forget the main story lol

[RomeoAlpha552]

Originally posted by Danテディ:

I'd wish they would keep everything like the old originals. You had a bit side content which had interesting impact (Vincent cough)

Nothing felt forced, the game had a world map and normal areas for story content or specific dungeons.

It was extremely fun to get everything done to summon stuff like Neo bahamuth or his zero (which was super broken due to a skill chain loop)

I can't remember the exact time since the memory card is somewhere in a dusty box but it should be around 800 hours I've spent for the game back then (to be fair, I had a lot more time and motivation to play since almost every game felt unique and special 20-30 years ago

Yeah I completely agree, I have a job and family so I really don't get that much time to play video games and I have been playing this game for almost a month now with 80 hours in and still haven't finished it haha but enjoyed it so far, I love the characters and the world but man are the side quests super annoying at times, I have started to just fast forward the conversations and skip the repetitive stuff.

[Samotage]

You know that are called "side quests" for a reason right?

[E-Commerce Meatualization Inc]

i mean, here's the thing about rebirth: it's not a remaster. anyone who played remake would know this series is a sequel series, and the cool thing is no one is forcing you to play it or do the side content or anything. if you don't like the side content in this game you should definitely avoid the entire yakuza series (which is amazing), and games like zelda botw + totk, as well as both of the rdr games (especially rdr 2 which is filled with bloat content on top of being the worst feeling game i've played in the last decade by a mile and it isn't even close). You should also avoid the KH series, the octopath traveler series, and i'm sure if i had my library in front of me i could list a dozens of acclaimed games that have worse content, story, combat, minigames, sidequests and overall gameplay than the ffvii remake series so far.

at the end of the day either like the game or don't. either play the game or don't. the dev's aren't lurking on the steam forums taking notes on how they're going to completely overhaul this game for the vocal minority of people here inconvenienced by optional content

[RomeoAlpha552]

Originally posted by Samotage:

You know that are called "side quests" for a reason right?

Side quests can be fun and good, not bloated and repetitive.

[Rikuto01]

The side content is fine.

Chadley is not.

[RomeoAlpha552]

Originally posted by E-Commerce Meatualization Inc:

i mean, here's the thing about rebirth: it's not a remaster. anyone who played remake would know this series is a sequel series, and the cool thing is no one is forcing you to play it or do the side content or anything. if you don't like the side content in this game you should definitely avoid the entire yakuza series (which is amazing), and games like zelda botw + totk, as well as both of the rdr games (especially rdr 2 which is filled with bloat content on top of being the worst feeling game i've played in the last decade by a mile and it isn't even close). You should also avoid the KH series, the octopath traveler series, and i'm sure if i had my library in front of me i could list a dozens of acclaimed games that have worse content, story, combat, minigames, sidequests and overall gameplay than the ffvii remake series so far.

at the end of the day either like the game or don't. either play the game or don't. the dev's aren't lurking on the steam forums taking notes on how they're going to completely overhaul this game for the vocal minority of people here inconvenienced by optional content

One of the reasons why RDR2 is just lying dead in my library is because I really dislike games with so much bloat, I even have a Yakuza game that I haven't touched yet and the examples you gave are great games that I mean to try someday.

The thing is that games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring have changed the game, specially Baldur's Gate 3, 100+ hours of content that is all unique, very difficult to do but they set the standard.

[Valdo82]

Nah, you are just throwing a tantrum...

i have around 300 hrs in both games each and both are freaking repetitive. BG3 doesn't break its gameplay loop one single time, so it is repitive as hell, though really good.

Elden Ring the same plus you actually have c&p bosses, areas etc. don't get me wrong, both are elite level games, as is Rebirth, but all have their strengths and weaknesses.