"BRUTAL: RULERS OF THE OUTER WORLDS" Brumal nerfed

[7 Metroid]

I watched so many videos about this fight on youtube and I noticed brumal form was nerfed on PC steam version, the videos clearly show that when using brumal form no atb was spent however on PC steam version brumal form spends 30% of 1 ATB bar and that is a lot. You can do only 3 brumal forms and that is enough to make this brutal challenge close to impossible now. Also there are only 3 elemental materia on PC steam version, on PS5 there are 4. What the hell SE devs have been doing? This fight is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by any means.

[valium]

You will need to use the ATB ward from Aerith and have Yuffie hasted. You are not following all the directions.

[7 Metroid]

Originally posted by valium:

You will need to use the ATB ward from Aerith and have Yuffie hasted. You are not following all the directions.

I'm using both, did you read this below

"the videos clearly show that when using brumal form no atb was spent however on PC steam version brumal form spends 30% of 1 ATB bar and that is a lot. You can do only 3 brumal forms"

[7 Metroid]

What the hell is this fight, more than 50 tries to get to sephiroth and then when I do, I see only 3 moves and his 3 moves are to chain my characters and then octolash, whatthehell. Square Enix devs seriously need to rethink the bull.s.hit, not even all dark souls combined + elden ring are not a match for the bulls.hit of this challenge and we need this for the achievement, whatthehell.

[7 Metroid]

hundreds of tries and no success, I got to Sephiroth more than 30 times but no way to defeat that, that shadowy chain is bu.lls.hit, they could have made him that way but only him, a single fight, to go back all the time and spend 10 minutes to get to him to try again is BS, they made it 100x harder on the steam PC version. I preordered this game, Part 3, I will wait and see achievement reviews first. I dont understand Square Enix, probably they dont know that there are programs that I could just tick an achievement and voila, done, but I would never do unless is a bugged achievement. TO SQUARE ENIX "DO NOT PUT BS CHALLENGES RELATED TO ACHIEVEMENTS, MAKE IT OPTIONAL".

[Octopus Crime]

Yeah, can't disagree with ya that it's a very tough gauntlet of fights.

I didn't use any of the cheese strategies when I beat it on PS5, not a brag, just tryin to say, it is possible so keep at it.

The most important thing to beat Sephiroth is to get good at timing perfect blocks, that way you don't get your team locked down then Octoslashed.

I do have a private youtube video of that win if you wanna use it for possible pointers.

Was a standard melee setup using Cloud, Barret, and Yuffie.

Using Barret as an old fashioned rpg tank job helps a lot.

[7 Metroid]

Originally posted by Octopus Crime:

Yeah, can't disagree with ya that it's a very tough gauntlet of fights.
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I tried everything, manawall and the crap, blocking hardly works as supposed to be, coming from me "parrying master" of dark souls games, manawall does not last long and yet they made that sephiroth targets them at the time you set the command, 90% of the times I tried manawall or any healing/raise command, sephiroth targets them even though you are not controlling any, if the characters are not doing anything then he goes to you, and the moment he goes to you, if in that moment you set a command for an ally heal or do anything important then he goes to them and chains them. Any healing, raise or anything important, will only work if sephiroth is down, hit by a firaga or the sort. This reminds me of the toughest boss in dark souls 3, "Sister Friede", she will attack if she sees you are healing. That was also bul.ls.hit boss but that is optional for achievements. Anyway, I'm done with this game, I completed all minigames, got 87 of all johnny curious, only this one was left. They should have made the toughest challenges not related to achievements in any way. There are limits to how much bu.llsh.it somebody can handle.

[Octopus Crime]

Well the offer of my video still stands.

I found my timing for i-frames playing monster hunter games all these years translated well to timing perfect blocks in Rebirth thankfully, I've also been an avid rhythm game player for many years also, so I am sort of pre-conditioned for this sort of thing.

Been a year since I did that fight, but if I remember correctly you can work out who he is going to try and bind because he will look/aim towards them while he's charging it up.

Just manually change to that character before he does if you don't want to rely on AI maybe timing a perfect block.

Try and keep your 3 characters well seperated, or you may struggle to see who he is aiming for.

[Octopus Crime]

Another thing that comes from my Monster Hunter playing is not to overcommit at the wrong times.

If he is due to use his bind move, just back away and wait for it.

[Yílõng Má]

Many people did it solo with Aerith, no materia, no damage received, and here you are complaining about it being hard lol.

[Evanon]

Originally posted by 7 Metroid:

I watched so many videos about this fight on youtube and I noticed brumal form was nerfed on PC steam version, the videos clearly show that when using brumal form no atb was spent however on PC steam version brumal form spends 30% of 1 ATB bar and that is a lot. You can do only 3 brumal forms and that is enough to make this brutal challenge close to impossible now. Also there are only 3 elemental materia on PC steam version, on PS5 there are 4. What the hell SE devs have been doing? This fight is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by any means.

In the end i gave up and just Cheat Engined the fight got my achievement and moved on, i fing hate wasting time on unfair bullshiet in games, the last one i endured was 4h on Malenia.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by Evanon:

Originally posted by 7 Metroid:

I watched so many videos about this fight on youtube and I noticed brumal form was nerfed on PC steam version, the videos clearly show that when using brumal form no atb was spent however on PC steam version brumal form spends 30% of 1 ATB bar and that is a lot. You can do only 3 brumal forms and that is enough to make this brutal challenge close to impossible now. Also there are only 3 elemental materia on PC steam version, on PS5 there are 4. What the hell SE devs have been doing? This fight is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by any means.

In the end i gave up and just Cheat Engined the fight got my achievement and moved on, i fing hate wasting time on unfair bullshiet in games, the last one i endured was 4h on Malenia.

It's not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Many people beat Malenia RL1 naked, you're just not good.

At that point, just use SAM, why bother with cheat engine? Unlock all achievement at minute 1.

[7 Metroid]

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

Many people did it solo with Aerith, no materia, no damage received, and here you are complaining about it being hard lol.

They used cheats but you think they did not, that is the problem about believing everything you see in the internet. You trolls should be very careful about what you believe in the internet.

[7 Metroid]

Anyway, I finally did it, hundreds of tries. I only continued because I had no other games to play. It was stupid, everything, beginning to end, I will wait for part 3 and see achievement reviews, if Square Enix pulls this crap once again, I'm done and by the way i belong to a legion of thousand of players unhappy with this crap. We want challenge, no b.ull.sh.it, you have been warned Square Enix, pull this crap again and we will boycott part 3.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3431492615

[7 Metroid]

And by the way is not only this one, that minigame that tifa does abs at the gym was also bulls.hit. That 3rd part was insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PkAliAKgzw

That last piano song "Two Legs? Nothin’ To It" was also bulls.hit, hundreds of tries to get an A for the curious.

[MightyMonte88]

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

Originally posted by Evanon:

In the end i gave up and just Cheat Engined the fight got my achievement and moved on, i fing hate wasting time on unfair bullshiet in games, the last one i endured was 4h on Malenia.

It's not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Many people beat Malenia RL1 naked, you're just not good.

At that point, just use SAM, why bother with cheat engine? Unlock all achievement at minute 1.

I beat it, but it was pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, stop coping for this 5/10 game.