FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH

FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH

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Kana 2 月 4 日 下午 9:58
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cringe ass fanfic writing
so like cloud and zack get sucked into an alternate dimension to fight sephiroth in a super le epic fight. this ♥♥♥♥ is like some fanfic some idiot wrote in a myspace blog back in the early 2000s
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zero 2 月 11 日 下午 2:01 
引用自 windsea888
Nojima is a script and scenario writer, not "overseeing the game". Oversight on the original was by Sakaguchi who is long gone from Square now.

Fan fiction refers to the quality of the writing, as in similar to fan fiction anime blogs that involve nonsensical shoehorned time travel in order to brimg back or add new poorly thought out escapades to characters etc,
then just say bad writing, my dude, rather then being obtuse.

obviously i disagree, as i have already gone over the intrigue of the retelling and the multiverse with you hours ago.
windsea888 2 月 11 日 下午 2:04 
It's 30 years later bub
No guarantees a 30 year later reboot is gonna be the same quality as a masterpiece made by a much smaller team in their prime...in a totally different world culture and time, even if it has some of the same major players involved
最後修改者:windsea888; 2 月 11 日 下午 2:05
Eastgrove 2 月 11 日 下午 2:07 
FF9 was a master work. It's practically perfect for what it is. Unfortunately it's a very dark story with very little agency on the part of the player. You never win. You lose all the time. There's never a satisfying moment. I dare say it's a mockery of what came before in the series. A beautiful bit of trolling.

I hate it. I always will hate it. I'm glad it sold poorly, but unfortunately the main reason it did so probably had to do with the whimsical art style more than anything.
windsea888 2 月 11 日 下午 2:08 
You don't have to take my word for it that it is bad writing. Check out all the people who think so too from YouTube videos, YouTube comments, gamefaqs discussions, redit discussions, social media, reviews on here, comments on here, posts on here you name. Oh and the sharp drop off in sales for part 2 now that the cats out of the bag that this isn't a remake. But then again maybe all those people are just a "loud minority" who voted with their wallet and their voice, right? I dunno up to you
最後修改者:windsea888; 2 月 11 日 下午 2:10
windsea888 2 月 11 日 下午 2:09 
FF9 sold "poorly" because FF8's story and flat characters in comparison to ff7 killed momentum for the series and most importantly because FF9 was out when people were already into the next generation of PS2. A late Gen title is always risky.
最後修改者:windsea888; 2 月 11 日 下午 2:11
babobaka 2 月 11 日 下午 2:15 
引用自 The_Box
引用自 windsea888
Nojima is a script and scenario writer, not "overseeing the game". Oversight on the original was by Sakaguchi who is long gone from Square now.

Fan fiction refers to the quality of the writing, as in similar to fan fiction anime blogs that involve nonsensical shoehorned time travel in order to save characters etc
And Sakaguchi said that Kitase was responsible for the original's story. The story is what you're complaining about, and Sakaguchi has consistently said it's Kitase's story. Not sure what's hard to grasp about that.
This is from the interview of Kitase, this is what he said about FF7 story.

Q: So then it was your turn to educate Sakaguchi.

Kitase: Haha, yes, perhaps. But he wasn't as involved in the daily work with FFVII as I was. He wrote the original script, made up the guidelines for everything and created the overarching concepts. It was he who shaped the large metropolis that would become New York but was later transformed into Midgar, and the whole concept of the life stream came from his head.
Eastgrove 2 月 11 日 下午 2:15 
引用自 windsea888
Nojima is a script and scenario writer, not "overseeing the game". Oversight on the original was by Sakaguchi who is long gone from Square now.

Fan fiction refers to the quality of the writing, as in similar to fan fiction anime blogs that involve nonsensical shoehorned time travel in order to brimg back or add new poorly thought out escapades to characters etc,

I believe fanfiction had more influence on spin-offs than the OG did. There's a common understanding of the story and characters that are simply not accurate to what actually happens in the game. As far as the community goes, fanon has overridden canon. The common impression people have of the characters overrides the actual character.

What people remember vs. what actually happened. The players fell victim to the same trap the characters in the story do.
zero 2 月 11 日 下午 2:17 
i see we went back to sales for the fourth of fifth time cause theres still no disputing fan interest in the series, wild.
Unknown 2 月 11 日 下午 2:18 
引用自 zero
引用自 windsea888
Nojima is a script and scenario writer, not "overseeing the game". Oversight on the original was by Sakaguchi who is long gone from Square now.

Fan fiction refers to the quality of the writing, as in similar to fan fiction anime blogs that involve nonsensical shoehorned time travel in order to brimg back or add new poorly thought out escapades to characters etc,
then just say bad writing, my dude, rather then being obtuse.

obviously i disagree, as i have already gone over the intrigue of the retelling and the multiverse with you hours ago.

There's no bad writing in multiverses. Why would a world where Sephiroth outright kills Cloud & Zack in Crisis Core & prevented the main game from ever occurring not exist?

That's what's bad with that theme, infinite possibilities. Hence why it's better to just play the remake & not treat it with the same regards as the original.
windsea888 2 月 11 日 下午 2:18 
This is from the interview of Kitase, this is what he said about FF7 story.

Q: So then it was your turn to educate Sakaguchi.

Kitase: Haha, yes, perhaps. But he wasn't as involved in the daily work with FFVII as I was. He wrote the original script, made up the guidelines for everything and created the overarching concepts. It was he who shaped the large metropolis that would become New York but was later transformed into Midgar, and the whole concept of the life stream came from his head.

Yep. Thank you friend
zero 2 月 11 日 下午 2:19 
引用自 Unknown
引用自 zero
then just say bad writing, my dude, rather then being obtuse.

obviously i disagree, as i have already gone over the intrigue of the retelling and the multiverse with you hours ago.

There's no bad writing in multiverses. Why would a world where Sephiroth outright kills Cloud & Zack in Crisis Core & prevented the main game from ever occurring not exist?

That's what's bad with that theme, infinite possibilities. Hence why it's better to just play the remake & not treat it with the same regards as the original.
i mean thats the point ive said a few times: the classic 7 is there and fully encapsulated if people want that, rebirth is telling its own story with its own intrigue and narrative going on, if people dislike it, they don't need to play it, but its very silly to pretend it wasn't well recieved by the community at large.
windsea888 2 月 11 日 下午 2:20 
Read that quote again carefully. Sakaguchi made the guidelines for everything. The buck stopped with him. He separates the wheat from the chaff. Without his leadership we get games like Kingdom Hearts 3 and FF7 reboots.
最後修改者:windsea888; 2 月 11 日 下午 2:20
zero 2 月 11 日 下午 2:21 
引用自 windsea888
Read that quote again carefully. Sakaguchi made the guidelines for everything. The buck stopped with him. He separates the wheat from the chaff. Without his leadership we get games like Kingdom Hearts 3 and FF7 reboots.
so: a great game? weird to complain about then
windsea888 2 月 11 日 下午 2:23 
Sure if you want to live a lie
Ultima 2 月 11 日 下午 2:23 
引用自 Sinkitsune
引用自 Xao
So, at what point are you going to realize that the target audience of FF7 is the very people who owned those blogs back in the 2000s?

...By the way, it wasn't Myspace in the early 2000s, it was Livejournal. Myspace was mid 2000s. At least try to hide the fact you're a zoomer.
When you all gonna realize that OG FF7 creator and writer is overseeing this game, you dope asses XD

That's the irony of it all.

The problem about people who are doing naught but bashing a game they've never played for days here is that they put Final Fantasy VII on a pedestal. As great as the OG is, it is not some master class in writing. Hell, the English translation was a one-month rush job. Rebirth's writing is just as good as the OGs, but the VAs will never be able to surpass your inner monologue that dubbed the game when you initially played the game way back in whichever year.
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