Huge stuttering

[NoctisTheH]

Anyone has any effective ideas how to at least reduce this stuttering? It's stuttering so hard even on the lowest graphics settings. I've tried everything from the optimization mods to modifying Engine.ini, capping frames via NVIDIA Control Panel, updating DirectStorage files, but nothing works and the stutters are still giant.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by CINER:

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

Anyone has any effective ideas how to at least reduce this stuttering? It's stuttering so hard even on the lowest graphics settings. I've tried everything from the optimization mods to modifying Engine.ini, capping frames via NVIDIA Control Panel, updating DirectStorage files, but nothing works and the stutters are still giant.

What resolution is your desktop at. the game will use whatever resolution it is because its borderless , changing the game resolution won't affect anything.

I can run 1440p at 60-90fps with 100% max 66% scaling high background and medium textures.
cap it max framerate 60 in nvidia control panel, use losless caling = 120fps very smooth
using a
5600x
32gb ram
3080 10gb
2tb nvme

Ultra background its horrible performance for me and i don't notice any popin on high.
Medium textures are pretty much the same as high in most places

If you say its running bad at low settings than the only problem could be your resolution
Which you would have to change at a windows setting not in game.

My display monitor supports max 1440p resolution, max refresh rate in HZ: 240.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by ♋Phenex:

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

I5 12600KF
RTX 4070
32GB RAM DDR4
WIN 11 23H2.

Assuming your CPU isn't bottlenecking you, see if you can make a restore point and get on 24h2. It made a massive difference for as I was stuttering on basically every action including saving the game and opening the menu but now it's much smoother.
The mods I'm using are the Ultimate Engine Tweaks, DirectStorage, and Rebirth Fix for 16:10 or ultrawide.

Sadly I don't have any restore points, I didn't installed 24H2 because this update was filled with bugs.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by IL_Davu:

Do you happen to have V-Sync enabled? With this engine, it's definitely better to use VRR

Yes, it's because my monitor doesn't support VRR, so you know.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by NeoMasamune:

If you have an nvme drive, make sure the game is installed there (I swapped .dll for direct storage before even running the game, so I'm not sure if they helped or not).
Use a frame rate limiter that isn't the one built into the game (I'm using nvidia control panel), and then set the in game FPS higher than what your cap is.
Make sure that low latency mode isn't enabled in the nvidia control panel.

With those things, I have reduced stuttering by a huge amount. I am capped at 60, and play with Ultra/High 100% scale min and 100% scale max with the DLSS AA option @ 1440P. I was using TAAU but I was getting more drops than I would like. Now I only see the occasional momentary dip.

My system is R9 5900X, RTX 3080 10GB, 64GB DDR4 3600, Windows 10 22H2

I'd have nvme SSD, it's actually my 2TB one where I have the game installed. I didn't used low latency mode via NVIDIA Control Panel, just FPS cap feature, yet still no luck for me, probably it's because I'm on Windows 11 23H2. I have the latest graphics card drivers installed from NVIDIA.

[Laynero]

All this dll and ini fixes just placebo. Nothing can help, until devs done full shader precompilation. All you can do is set medium textures to prevent Vram overfill

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

Originally posted by NeoMasamune:

If you have an nvme drive, make sure the game is installed there (I swapped .dll for direct storage before even running the game, so I'm not sure if they helped or not).
Use a frame rate limiter that isn't the one built into the game (I'm using nvidia control panel), and then set the in game FPS higher than what your cap is.
Make sure that low latency mode isn't enabled in the nvidia control panel.

With those things, I have reduced stuttering by a huge amount. I am capped at 60, and play with Ultra/High 100% scale min and 100% scale max with the DLSS AA option @ 1440P. I was using TAAU but I was getting more drops than I would like. Now I only see the occasional momentary dip.

My system is R9 5900X, RTX 3080 10GB, 64GB DDR4 3600, Windows 10 22H2

I'd have nvme SSD, it's actually my 2TB one where I have the game installed. I didn't used low latency mode via NVIDIA Control Panel, just FPS cap feature, yet still no luck for me, probably it's because I'm on Windows 11 23H2. I have the latest graphics card drivers installed from NVIDIA.

- You only replaced the direct storage dll's? THe D12 dll can cause more issues if you are not on Win11 24H2.
- Have you tried using DLSS4?
- Have you monitored while playing what the utilization is on your CPU and GPU to check for bottlenecks?
- Have you set your RTX4070 to maximum performance in the control panel and properly set other settings there? (Leaving it default is not always good. You should at the very least change the power management, shader cache)
- do you have any other overlays on? Try disabling them.
- Bluetooth - weirdly enough, some games dont like it lol (i dont have issues but who knows, each PC is different)
- there also can be a Bios setting in regards to prioritizing PCIe lanes. For example its possible that it prioritises your nvme over gpu.

I am running the game on 1440p, 14700k, 4070Ti, 64GB ram, samsung 990 pro at max settings + reshade + ini tweaks for improved visuals and upscaled texture mods and have no stutters, crashes or other issues.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

I'd have nvme SSD, it's actually my 2TB one where I have the game installed. I didn't used low latency mode via NVIDIA Control Panel, just FPS cap feature, yet still no luck for me, probably it's because I'm on Windows 11 23H2. I have the latest graphics card drivers installed from NVIDIA.

- You only replaced the direct storage dll's? THe D12 dll can cause more issues if you are not on Win11 24H2.
- Have you tried using DLSS4?
- Have you monitored while playing what the utilization is on your CPU and GPU to check for bottlenecks?
- Have you set your RTX4070 to maximum performance in the control panel and properly set other settings there? (Leaving it default is not always good. You should at the very least change the power management, shader cache)
- do you have any other overlays on? Try disabling them.
- Bluetooth - weirdly enough, some games dont like it lol (i dont have issues but who knows, each PC is different)
- there also can be a Bios setting in regards to prioritizing PCIe lanes. For example its possible that it prioritises your nvme over gpu.

I am running the game on 1440p, 14700k, 4070Ti, 64GB ram, samsung 990 pro at max settings + reshade + ini tweaks for improved visuals and upscaled texture mods and have no stutters, crashes or other issues.

1. Yes, I only replaced the direct storage dll's files, there was a mod that also had its own DirectX 12 Core file, but when I replaced it - the game simply refused to run because I'm using Windows 11 23H2.
2. Yes, through the DLSS Swapper, but not a single improvement has been noticed what about reducing stutters.
3. The temperature looks stable on my CPU, GPU and so. No overheating, no loud noises, just a warm temperature.
4. I'd prefer not to take risk by setting up the settings too much, otherwise it would end up badly for my GPU or for the entire PC build.
5. Only steamoverlay, I don't use NVIDIA app, but disabling steam overlay usually won't fix stuttering issues, except increasing FPS a bit.
6. I don't use Bluetooth.
7. Messing around with the motherboard BIOS settings without a proper knowledge about the options may end up badly, so I'd prefer not to take that risk.

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

1. Yes, I only replaced the direct storage dll's files, there was a mod that also had its own DirectX 12 Core file, but when I replaced it - the game simply refused to run because I'm using Windows 11 23H2.
2. Yes, through the DLSS Swapper, but not a single improvement has been noticed what about reducing stutters.
3. The temperature looks stable on my CPU, GPU and so. No overheating, no loud noises, just a warm temperature.
4. I'd prefer not to take risk by setting up the settings too much, otherwise it would end up badly for my GPU or for the entire PC build.
5. Only steamoverlay, I don't use NVIDIA app, but disabling steam overlay usually won't fix stuttering issues, except increasing FPS a bit.
6. I don't use Bluetooth.
7. Messing around with the motherboard BIOS settings without a proper knowledge about the options may end up badly, so I'd prefer not to take that risk.

2. Replacing the file is not all that you need to do, you also need to set the correct preset. This ties in with #5 as the new nvidia app has now the option for you to override the dlss mode in games to DLSS4. But you need to add theff7 rebirth exe file to the app (the one with _ at the end)

3. I do not just mean temperature, but usage / utilization. For example is your CPU used say 80% and GPU only 20% etc. Same for your nvme drive (what drive is it? Do you know the model / make of it?)

4. Shader cache is space that the app can use to store compiled shaders for all your games, it does not hurt the GPU. Power management setting is to always allow your GPU to work in full swing otherwise it will get throttled and only be used for say 70% not more.

7. I understand, but you should still at the very least just check (without doing any changes), if you have it. You could even google it if you know what motherboard you have, because this will improve all your games not just this one.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

1. Yes, I only replaced the direct storage dll's files, there was a mod that also had its own DirectX 12 Core file, but when I replaced it - the game simply refused to run because I'm using Windows 11 23H2.
2. Yes, through the DLSS Swapper, but not a single improvement has been noticed what about reducing stutters.
3. The temperature looks stable on my CPU, GPU and so. No overheating, no loud noises, just a warm temperature.
4. I'd prefer not to take risk by setting up the settings too much, otherwise it would end up badly for my GPU or for the entire PC build.
5. Only steamoverlay, I don't use NVIDIA app, but disabling steam overlay usually won't fix stuttering issues, except increasing FPS a bit.
6. I don't use Bluetooth.
7. Messing around with the motherboard BIOS settings without a proper knowledge about the options may end up badly, so I'd prefer not to take that risk.

2. Replacing the file is not all that you need to do, you also need to set the correct preset. This ties in with #5 as the new nvidia app has now the option for you to override the dlss mode in games to DLSS4. But you need to add theff7 rebirth exe file to the app (the one with _ at the end)

3. I do not just mean temperature, but usage / utilization. For example is your CPU used say 80% and GPU only 20% etc.

4. Shader cache is space that the app can use to store compiled shaders for all your games, it does not hurt the GPU. Power management setting is to always allow your GPU to work in full swing otherwise it will get throttled and only be used for say 70% not more.

7. I understand, but you should still at the very least just check (without doing any changes), if you have it. You could even google it if you know what motherboard you have, because this will improve all your games not just this one.

What about my motherboard, I have one from Gigabyte B660 GAMING X DDR4 that I'm actually using. Do I need NVIDIA app to apply this shader caching and DLSS updates that I got via DLSS Swapper?

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

Originally posted by Grimzy:

2. Replacing the file is not all that you need to do, you also need to set the correct preset. This ties in with #5 as the new nvidia app has now the option for you to override the dlss mode in games to DLSS4. But you need to add theff7 rebirth exe file to the app (the one with _ at the end)

3. I do not just mean temperature, but usage / utilization. For example is your CPU used say 80% and GPU only 20% etc.

4. Shader cache is space that the app can use to store compiled shaders for all your games, it does not hurt the GPU. Power management setting is to always allow your GPU to work in full swing otherwise it will get throttled and only be used for say 70% not more.

7. I understand, but you should still at the very least just check (without doing any changes), if you have it. You could even google it if you know what motherboard you have, because this will improve all your games not just this one.

What about my motherboard, I have one from Gigabyte B660 GAMING X DDR4 that I'm actually using. Do I need NVIDIA app to apply this shader caching and DLSS updates that I got via DLSS Swapper?

You can apply the shader caching and power settings you can just use nvidia control panel.
For the DLSS override, you need either the app or do it through nvidia profile inspector (the app is easier lol)
I did not find your motherboard to have the settings I was talking about so should be fine in that regard.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

What about my motherboard, I have one from Gigabyte B660 GAMING X DDR4 that I'm actually using. Do I need NVIDIA app to apply this shader caching and DLSS updates that I got via DLSS Swapper?

You can apply the shader caching and power settings you can just use nvidia control panel.
For the DLSS override, you need either the app or do it through nvidia profile inspector (the app is easier lol)
I did not find your motherboard to have the settings I was talking about so should be fine in that regard.

What about applying the shader caching and power settings that you're mentioning - wouldn't you mind to share with some guide?

[C1REX]

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

Originally posted by ♋Phenex:

What specs do you have? A combination of the mods and updating to win 11 24h2 made my game way smoother.

I5 12600KF
RTX 4070
32GB RAM DDR4
WIN 11 23H2.

Try the game at 60fps cap and possibly low settings and resolution just to test what kind of stutters you experience. Are these traversal stutters or VRAM limitation stutters?
The game can use close to 12GB but Windows + background apps also need some. A simple discord, chrome or whatever else can use just a little bit too much for 12GB to not be enough.
You can also try reinstalling Nvidia drivers to reset shader data.
There are also some stutters that will be always there no matter on what hardware.

Are you getting worse performance than this guy?
https://youtu.be/RlxvG6ACIME?si=5mn_aTXrZuN3YQ4r

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Borito:

Nothing much you can do , only a patch can fix this mess of a port

Sorry but stuttering is a major feature of UE4 and 5, and obviously a very popular one with gamers as they rave about anything made in those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ engines (even though they all look the same and look creatively worse than PSX games) and throw their money at the developers.

[NoctisTheH]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

I5 12600KF
RTX 4070
32GB RAM DDR4
WIN 11 23H2.

Try the game at 60fps cap and possibly low settings and resolution just to test what kind of stutters you experience. Are these traversal stutters or VRAM limitation stutters?
The game can use close to 12GB but Windows + background apps also need some. A simple discord, chrome or whatever else can use just a little bit too much for 12GB to not be enough.
You can also try reinstalling Nvidia drivers to reset shader data.
There are also some stutters that will be always there no matter on what hardware.

Are you getting worse performance than this guy?
https://youtu.be/RlxvG6ACIME?si=5mn_aTXrZuN3YQ4r

Yup, far worse, because I have FPS drops even while moving the camera in-game. Stutters are consistent, no matter where I'm going or what I'm doing - the game is stuttering so painfully. And what about lowering resolution: How can I do this if Fullscreen mode in-game won't let me do it?

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by NoctisTheH:

I5 12600KF
RTX 4070
32GB RAM DDR4
WIN 11 23H2.

Try the game at 60fps cap and possibly low settings and resolution just to test what kind of stutters you experience. Are these traversal stutters or VRAM limitation stutters?
The game can use close to 12GB but Windows + background apps also need some. A simple discord, chrome or whatever else can use just a little bit too much for 12GB to not be enough.
You can also try reinstalling Nvidia drivers to reset shader data.
There are also some stutters that will be always there no matter on what hardware.

Are you getting worse performance than this guy?
https://youtu.be/RlxvG6ACIME?si=5mn_aTXrZuN3YQ4r

Are you really using Nibelheim as an example? Bruh...