what the hell is dx 12 and d3d 12?

[slaudicina]

I am not able to play this game without it

[The_Box]

It's the rendering pipeline, and requires a... Well I hesitate to say 'modern' CPU, but one produced within the last three generations. A 2060 or newer, though some people have managed to get the 1660's running.

[slaudicina]

huh?

[The_Box]

Originally posted by slaudicina:

huh?

Alright, different question, what GPU does your computer have?

[slaudicina]

So what do I need to do to get the game running?

[WT_Neptune]

There's a fence keeping you out and you can't jump high enough to get over it with your computer

[slaudicina]

this \\\\\This is great. I found everything there is to find but not the graphics card, so I don't really know. This is a relatively new computer so if not is not an Nvidea, I would be surprised

[The_Box]

Originally posted by slaudicina:

this \\\\\This is great. I found everything there is to find but not the graphics card, so I don't really know. This is a relatively new computer so if not is not an Nvidea, I would be surprised

Open your start menu, type 'Device Manager', and open it up. You'll see a drop down for 'Display Adapters'. Click that little arrow and it'll drop down and tell you exactly what GPU you're running.

[slaudicina]

Oh this is great. I just spent 40 bucks on a game I can't even play and there is no way that I know of to get a refund from this site

[The_Box]

Originally posted by slaudicina:

Oh this is great. I just spent 40 bucks on a game I can't even play and there is no way that I know of to get a refund from this site

I'm trying to help you dude, just roll with me and maybe I can help you get this figured out. First step is to figure out what GPU you've got though, please go through that process I laid out above.

[I poop out minisentries]

If you are running Windows 11, the current cards the game does not hard-lock you out of are any of the 20** cards and above (2080, 2070, 2060, 2050) from Nvidia, and any of the 6***XT cards (6500, 6600, 6700) from AMD. Oh and the A771 or the B580 from intel.

If you have a GTX 1660, you can get around this hardware lockout by running a vulkan mapper (dxvk.dll) rather than dxd12.dll), which, in essence, just uses Vulkan rendering instead of Direct X12.

Unfortunately, the game hard-locks you out if you have anything lower, and some of the big losers (like myself) are owners of an RX5700xt card; but others like a 1080ti, a 1070, or even an AMD rx480 or rx390 won't be able to play.

Now if you really want to open a can of worms; there *ARE* other ways you could potentially run this game. The game takes advantage of a new hardware architecture called "Mesh shaders" which was introduced into these newer cards. Mesh shaders improve considerably the time spent in rendering clumps of traditional vertex shaders - saving a lot of GPU power.

The thing is; as we've seen with people running Alan Wake 2, or even Indiana Jones and the great circle, mesh shader support is not a hard-requirement; because **Mesh shading can be emulated as traditional vertex shading within the Linux** environment; it just slows down the process. Graphic cards will revert to using 'primitive' shaders, before rendering them as mesh shaders.

That being said, people who *have* gotten these titles to work with older hardware ie: (5700xt) use it through linux using the Mesa 24.3.3 drivers, and having it emulate these hardware layers. Sadly there's not a lot of documentation out there, and you are really getting into the nitty gritty of driver tweaking.

It is a shame, because FF7 Rebirth could have left the door open to cards without mesh shader support without forcing a hard requirement; it would slow down the game considerably, but some people would still be able to play within the 30-40 FPS range.

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If you *DO* have a card that is supported (ie: a 3080) and you are still getting a DX12_2 error; it could be that your operating system does not support it. Windows 11 supports it, Windows 10 does but only with a system version update. Run DXDIAG.exe in the command prompt to see which version of Direct X you might have; that could be culprit.


Or.... wait 6 months (or longer, if ever) until someone creates a mod that allows older cards to run with mesh shader emulation... Or start eyeing the market for a new(er) graphic card.

Good luck!!