Stutters and fps drops in cutscenes and open world

[Big Poo Poo Monster]

Hey guys, as title says im getting stutters and fps drops both in cutscenes and in the open world at 1080p, worse performance than ff16 atm.
My build is a bit outdated probably, its an rtx 4060, ryzen 5 3600 and 16 gb of ram ddr4 3200mhz xmp2.0, game installed on a ssd sata 2". In the open world, i kept only textures and the pop in setting both at the highest, the rest is medium and low(shadows and fog) with dlss 66%, still the open world based on where i look goes from 70-80 fps down to 40, which is waaay too noticeable. Setting dlss to 50% which is balanced or performance cause many calls it like that sort of fixes the issue, cause i go from 90 to 65-70, still drops but not as noticeable as when you drop to 40. I know that the 4060 is only 8 gb and i thought maybe increasing ram from 16 to 32 could help preventing stutters and fps drops, even tho usually vram usage is 7.6 gb and ram usage is only at 9-12 gb, sometimes reaching 14gb. What i want to know by asking you guys is if it's better to upgrade the cpu to a r5 5600 or the ram to 32 gb ddr4, i can only get one of those two this month since im on a low budget, and wanted to know which could be more impactful in my case.
Also, if someone has r5 5600 paired with 16 gb ram and 4060, or even my same gpu and cpu but with 32gb ram, could i know the performance and eventual stutters in the open world? Thanks for the patience of reading all this, and have a great day^^

[The Crusader 39]

3090
i9-12900KF
32GB @ 6000 MHz

I was seeing frequent stutters on my rig. In cutscenes and during gameplay just like you. I fiddled with vsync, tried Special K, RivaTuner and played around with the graphics settings all to no avail. I was ready to throw in the towel and wait and see if the official driver release would resolve my problems.

What ultimately cured my stuttering full stop, and I mean full stop was disabling rBAR with NVIDIA Profile Inspector. Doing that has completely fixed my stuttering issues entirely. For me and my computer, Rebirth simply hated having rBAR on. Disabling it fixed everything.

[Big Poo Poo Monster]

Originally posted by The Crusader 39:

3090
i9-12900KF
32GB @ 6000 MHz

I was seeing frequent stutters on my rig. In cutscenes and during gameplay just like you. I fiddled with vsync, tried Special K, RivaTuner and played around with the graphics settings all to no avail. I was ready to throw in the towel and wait and see if the official driver release would resolve my problems.

What ultimately cured my stuttering full stop, and I mean full stop was disabling rBAR with NVIDIA Profile Inspector. Doing that has completely fixed my stuttering issues entirely. For me and my computer, Rebirth simply hated having rBAR on. Disabling it fixed everything.

Damn, that's pretty nice! Thanks for the reply, did it also fix some fps drops? Also, i never downloaded nvidia Profile Inspector and didn't know about rBAR, but after seeing your comment i looked it up online and read that rBAR is enabled in pretty much every game by default without us knowing(if i understood correctly). Even if i never enabled it manually and never had nvidia inspector, may it still be possible that i have it enabled without knowing?

[Solar Field]

Not sure it will work for you but I did fix the framedrops by just capping my framerate using RTSS (you can also use the Nvidia control panel).

Cap your framerate at 60fps and you should be fine.

For some reason, the ingame frame limiter does not work properly and causes framedrops.

It was driving me crazy. Now it's smooth

Ryzen 5700X3D
RTX 4070
32GB RAM

[onallion]

it's disabled by default...

[Jeff4u]

May simple better to buy a M.2 SSD instead of using Sata SSD as it does not support direct storage that the game using.

My PC is 3070/3700x 16G RAM and fine on 60fps 1080p with mid setting.

[Big Poo Poo Monster]

Originally posted by The Crusader 39:

3090
i9-12900KF
32GB @ 6000 MHz

I was seeing frequent stutters on my rig. In cutscenes and during gameplay just like you. I fiddled with vsync, tried Special K, RivaTuner and played around with the graphics settings all to no avail. I was ready to throw in the towel and wait and see if the official driver release would resolve my problems.

What ultimately cured my stuttering full stop, and I mean full stop was disabling rBAR with NVIDIA Profile Inspector. Doing that has completely fixed my stuttering issues entirely. For me and my computer, Rebirth simply hated having rBAR on. Disabling it fixed everything.

Oh and sorry for the second comment, but i just downloaded Nvidia Profile Inspector, and just tried what you did, but when i look into profiles to search ff7 rebirth it doesn't find it,even if i write it in the same way it's written officialy, how did you manage to disable rBAR from it?

[Big Poo Poo Monster]

Originally posted by onallion:

it's disabled by default...

oh ok, then i misunderstood what i read on reddit, thanks^^

[onallion]

Originally posted by Big Poo Poo Monster:

Originally posted by The Crusader 39:

3090
i9-12900KF
32GB @ 6000 MHz

I was seeing frequent stutters on my rig. In cutscenes and during gameplay just like you. I fiddled with vsync, tried Special K, RivaTuner and played around with the graphics settings all to no avail. I was ready to throw in the towel and wait and see if the official driver release would resolve my problems.

What ultimately cured my stuttering full stop, and I mean full stop was disabling rBAR with NVIDIA Profile Inspector. Doing that has completely fixed my stuttering issues entirely. For me and my computer, Rebirth simply hated having rBAR on. Disabling it fixed everything.

Oh and sorry for the second comment, but i just downloaded Nvidia Profile Inspector, and just tried what you did, but when i look into profiles to search ff7 rebirth it doesn't find it,even if i write it in the same way it's written officialy, how did you manage to disable rBAR from it?

You need to create a new profile and then add the game's exe to it. Or you can just disable it globally. Fair warning, I don't think what he did is actually doing anything, as rBAR is already disabled by default.

[Big Poo Poo Monster]

Originally posted by Jeff4u:

May simple better to buy a M.2 SSD instead of using Sata SSD as it does not support direct storage that the game using.

My PC is 3070/3700x 16G RAM and fine on 60fps 1080p with mid setting.

that may be as well, i could also try to put the game on my nvme, but sadly its only 238 gigs and windows plus other stuff of the pc system already take something like 60-70 gigs

[ShadowSkill11]

You have a old style SSD on SATA 2? I don't understand why so many of you upgrade your CPU's and GPU's and leave your hard drives 20 years in the past. FOr god sake, get a NVMd SSD. Even the non-Nintendo consoles released years ago use NVMd SSD's. Your hard drive is around 300 MB/s and a normal NVMe drive is about 5000-7000 MB/s.

[Big Poo Poo Monster]

Originally posted by onallion:

Originally posted by Big Poo Poo Monster:

Oh and sorry for the second comment, but i just downloaded Nvidia Profile Inspector, and just tried what you did, but when i look into profiles to search ff7 rebirth it doesn't find it,even if i write it in the same way it's written officialy, how did you manage to disable rBAR from it?

You need to create a new profile and then add the game's exe to it. Or you can just disable it globally. Fair warning, I don't think what he did is actually doing anything, as rBAR is already disabled by default.

Thanks dude, if it's desabled by default at this point since i'm a bit desperate i may try to enable it and see how it performs lmao

[Big Poo Poo Monster]

Originally posted by ShadowSkill11:

You have a old style SSD on SATA 2? I don't understand why so many of you upgrade your CPU's and GPU's and leave your hard drives 20 years in the past. FOr god sake, get a NVMd SSD. Even the non-Nintendo consoles released years ago use NVMd SSD's. Your hard drive is around 300 MB/s and a normal NVMe drive is about 5000-7000 MB/s.

Yeah what you said sadly is true, even tho i bought the sata ssd 2 months ago it's true that i should put the game onto the nvme, but my nvme is just 238 gigs atm, and didn't want to risk to mess everything up by changing it

[IL_Davu]

I have an i7 9700k with a 4060ti with 16 GB, and 64 GB of RAM at 3200.
The game is set to ultra, using DLAA min-max 100%, and in open world, it runs at 120-100 FPS.

[Jeff4u]

Originally posted by Big Poo Poo Monster:

Originally posted by Jeff4u:

May simple better to buy a M.2 SSD instead of using Sata SSD as it does not support direct storage that the game using.

My PC is 3070/3700x 16G RAM and fine on 60fps 1080p with mid setting.

that may be as well, i could also try to put the game on my nvme, but sadly its only 238 gigs and windows plus other stuff of the pc system already take something like 60-70 gigs

You also need to set texture to mid @1080p as 8G VRAM and background details to HIGH.

Also set the power management of GPU to high performane for the game. This game just cannot keep up the GPU clock.

[Extra Big Swimjim with Cheese]

My friend suggested and it seems to be working for me so far, that disabling the steam overlay seems to make the game run much smoother. No idea why this would be the case, but the game runs funky.