Set Background model detail to 'Medium'

[metal1K]

Yes, you will get PS5 level pop in, but your frametime / overall smoothness will take a MASSIVE boost.

4090, 5900x, 5000Mbps NVME disk here, Direct Storage and Resize Bar on, and I don't know if it's an issue because of my config (maybe aging CPU?) or if a lot of people and reviewers have gone blind, but the game frametimes are absolutely disgusting with 'Background model details' higher than medium on my rig. To the point that it is REALLY bothering me.

Since I noticed I had very bad 1% low, ONLY when moving the camera around my character, and especially in cities... I started to think there is something with the way this game loads assets on the fly around you. Well, on my end, confirmed theres an issue with that, and settling with more pop-in is a huge W for the experience in general....

[DreadfulDrummer]

Originally posted by metal1K:

Yes, you will get PS5 level pop in, but your frametime / overall smoothness will take a MASSIVE boost.

4090, 5900x, 5000Mbps NVME disk here, Direct Storage and Resize Bar on, and I don't know if it's an issue because of my config (maybe aging CPU?) or if a lot of people and reviewers have gone blind, but the game frametimes are absolutely disgusting with 'Background model details' higher than medium on my rig. To the point that it is REALLY bothering me.

Since I noticed I had very bad 1% low, ONLY when moving the camera around my character, and especially in cities... I started to think there is something with the way this game loads assets on the fly around you. Well, on my end, confirmed theres an issue with that, and settling with more pop-in is a huge W for the experience in general....

are you talking about panning the camera and the textures keep reloading like they go from 1 pixel to normal within a second? This keeps happening so often and me and others have been trying to figure out whats going and can't get answers. These are folks with top end pc's with nvme's and i have an ssd with a 3080 12700k and get great fps otherwise without stutters, but the textures loading in over and over again spiking disk usage to 100 percent is insane.

[metal1K]

I did not have any problems with textures myself. But I did notice this game relied SUPER heavily on loading stuff on the fly. Even stuff that is literally 1 meter away from your character. In some instances, maybe because of changing settings too much without reloading the game, I could literally turn around quickly and see object pop into existence just next to my character inside a house!

When it comes to texture, maybe it's a different issue linked to VRAM. But it does not cost much to try lowering that environment detail setting and see what happens with your performance..

[metal1K]

I don't think this game has shader compilation issues, or actual stuttering
. I think this game has crazy 1% low becse of super aggressive open world streaming techniques. But I guess Digital Foundry will have some better analysis lol.

[Kashra Fall]

Haven't really had any issues with it myself with everything maxed out. Sure, there is noticeable pop in (At a distance.) just as there was in the ultra detail trailer reveal vs recommended/low etc. Is it enough for me to drop my quality? No. Game stays 60 FPS with no dips in the slightest from what I've seen and if it does dip, it will likely be during a massive attack zoomed in like stardust ray or something.

[metal1K]

Well, maybe it's my rig, maybe we all get different results at this point since it is early. But I hit 120 fps frequently on my end yet it feels like utter garbage because as soon as the game starts loading a lot of assets when moving the camera around, I get 1% lows as low as 20FPS.

I don't know if you are monitoring those, but personally I am very sensitive to bad frametimes lol. Hopefully it'll help others!

[matrixagent555]

Originally posted by metal1K:

Well, maybe it's my rig, maybe we all get different results at this point since it is early. But I hit 120 fps frequently on my end yet it feels like utter garbage because as soon as the game starts loading a lot of assets when moving the camera around, I get 1% lows as low as 20FPS.

I don't know if you are monitoring those, but personally I am very sensitive to bad frametimes lol. Hopefully it'll help others!

I also have a 4090 and decided to keep everything at high/ultra and use DLSS at 100%, then locked my fps to 90. Frametimes are close to perfect now. I do have a 13900 so I'm not sure the difference an AMD cpu makes, but I would recommend trying this if you are sensitive to frame rate drops.

[Clumsy_Sage]

Originally posted by matrixagent555:

Originally posted by metal1K:

Well, maybe it's my rig, maybe we all get different results at this point since it is early. But I hit 120 fps frequently on my end yet it feels like utter garbage because as soon as the game starts loading a lot of assets when moving the camera around, I get 1% lows as low as 20FPS.

I don't know if you are monitoring those, but personally I am very sensitive to bad frametimes lol. Hopefully it'll help others!

I also have a 4090 and decided to keep everything at high/ultra and use DLSS at 100%, then locked my fps to 90. Frametimes are close to perfect now. I do have a 13900 so I'm not sure the difference an AMD cpu makes, but I would recommend trying this if you are sensitive to frame rate drops.

I assume youve updated your bios and your intel chipset firmware?

[metal1K]

Originally posted by matrixagent555:

Originally posted by metal1K:

Well, maybe it's my rig, maybe we all get different results at this point since it is early. But I hit 120 fps frequently on my end yet it feels like utter garbage because as soon as the game starts loading a lot of assets when moving the camera around, I get 1% lows as low as 20FPS.

I don't know if you are monitoring those, but personally I am very sensitive to bad frametimes lol. Hopefully it'll help others!

I also have a 4090 and decided to keep everything at high/ultra and use DLSS at 100%, then locked my fps to 90. Frametimes are close to perfect now. I do have a 13900 so I'm not sure the difference an AMD cpu makes, but I would recommend trying this if you are sensitive to frame rate drops.

Capping my framerate is the first thing I tried. It does not fix the horrible frametime caused by those 1% lows at 20 fps.

Now I am not calling anyone a liar, maybe this is an issue with my CPU, or AMD CPU's, or something else that not all rigs have in common. But I think what a lot of people call 'butter smooth' is just bad and they just don't know how to setup games, or don't know any better. Which is fine, if people are happy with how their games run, good for them! But I'm Digital Foundry levels of picky hahaha

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by metal1K:

Originally posted by matrixagent555:

I also have a 4090 and decided to keep everything at high/ultra and use DLSS at 100%, then locked my fps to 90. Frametimes are close to perfect now. I do have a 13900 so I'm not sure the difference an AMD cpu makes, but I would recommend trying this if you are sensitive to frame rate drops.

Capping my framerate is the first thing I tried. It does not fix the horrible frametime caused by those 1% lows at 20 fps.

Now I am not calling anyone a liar, maybe this is an issue with my CPU, or AMD CPU's, or something else that not all rigs have in common. But I think what a lot of people call 'butter smooth' is just bad and they just don't know how to setup games, or don't know any better. Which is fine, if people are happy with how their games run, good for them! But I'm Digital Foundry levels of picky hahaha

If the game stays at my targeted frame rate, that's "Buttery smooth" to me. I set it to 60, it stays at 60 with all the bells and whistles turned to max at 1440p.

[Pixeleyes]

I've got a 4070 ti, the only way I could manage smooth frames was to set to 120 fps and then lock frames to 90 fps in Rivatuner. None of the other settings helped. I still hit minor stutters but they are relatively few and far between. I wouldn't quite describe it as "perfect", but it's very playable. This game could really benefit from frame generation.

[metal1K]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by metal1K:

Capping my framerate is the first thing I tried. It does not fix the horrible frametime caused by those 1% lows at 20 fps.

Now I am not calling anyone a liar, maybe this is an issue with my CPU, or AMD CPU's, or something else that not all rigs have in common. But I think what a lot of people call 'butter smooth' is just bad and they just don't know how to setup games, or don't know any better. Which is fine, if people are happy with how their games run, good for them! But I'm Digital Foundry levels of picky hahaha

If the game stays at my targeted frame rate, that's "Buttery smooth" to me. I set it to 60, it stays at 60 with all the bells and whistles turned to max at 1440p.

And I can assure you that there is much more to smoothness than your Average FPS counter showing 60. Because it is what it is, your Averaged FPS. But I'm not here to convince you. I can just assure you that it does not by any mean entails that your game is smooth, not in the slightest :D

[metal1K]

Originally posted by Pixeleyes:

I've got a 4070 ti, the only way I could manage smooth frames was to set to 120 fps and then lock frames to 90 fps in Rivatuner. None of the other settings helped. I still hit minor stutters but they are relatively few and far between. I wouldn't quite describe it as "perfect", but it's very playable. This game could really benefit from frame generation.

I tried with Lossless Scaling and FG definitely does a good job at masking this game pitfalls. An official implementation would help but I think there might be potential deeper issue with how aggressive the game world streaming is, or issues with some hardware being poorly supported, or issues with DirectStorage. I don't have the answers, just some conclusive testing on the surface issues

[Icy1007]

Originally posted by metal1K:

Yes, you will get PS5 level pop in, but your frametime / overall smoothness will take a MASSIVE boost.

4090, 5900x, 5000Mbps NVME disk here, Direct Storage and Resize Bar on, and I don't know if it's an issue because of my config (maybe aging CPU?) or if a lot of people and reviewers have gone blind, but the game frametimes are absolutely disgusting with 'Background model details' higher than medium on my rig. To the point that it is REALLY bothering me.

Since I noticed I had very bad 1% low, ONLY when moving the camera around my character, and especially in cities... I started to think there is something with the way this game loads assets on the fly around you. Well, on my end, confirmed theres an issue with that, and settling with more pop-in is a huge W for the experience in general....

I have a locked 120fps at max settings at 4K on my 4090. I'm not lowering any settings.

[Verdict]

5800x/6650xt using high character/spell effects. medium world texture and background, low shadows. getting 95 average fps never have the game stutter.

[metal1K]

Originally posted by Icy1007:

Originally posted by metal1K:

Yes, you will get PS5 level pop in, but your frametime / overall smoothness will take a MASSIVE boost.

4090, 5900x, 5000Mbps NVME disk here, Direct Storage and Resize Bar on, and I don't know if it's an issue because of my config (maybe aging CPU?) or if a lot of people and reviewers have gone blind, but the game frametimes are absolutely disgusting with 'Background model details' higher than medium on my rig. To the point that it is REALLY bothering me.

Since I noticed I had very bad 1% low, ONLY when moving the camera around my character, and especially in cities... I started to think there is something with the way this game loads assets on the fly around you. Well, on my end, confirmed theres an issue with that, and settling with more pop-in is a huge W for the experience in general....

I have a locked 120fps at max settings at 4K on my 4090. I'm not lowering any settings.

Obviously if you don't have issues, or if you think you don't have issues, this thread is not adressed to you ;)