Need help for a pc

[_Yoonzin0_]

Hi, i will be buying a pc as my current one won't be able to launch rebirth and I wanted some help with it.
Either a ryzen 5 7500f with a620 chipset
Rtx 4070 super
Or
Ryzen 5 7500f with a b650 chipset
Rx 7800xt
Which one seems better to you?

[KaosReigns]

I would highly advise you speak to a PC guy in person. Advice online is very hit or miss, and there could easily be someone trying to trick you into buying garbage. Never put faith into people online, especially on Steam, for that kind of assistance.

For example, some people will Recommend you to get the 4070 Super, but from my research, there is a card from the 3.xx series that is barely worse than that, for a LOT less.

As for the Rx? Radeon... gross.

[_Yoonzin0_]

Thank you!

[Redcold 翔翔]

Amd yes
Both card has same performance after amd driver update, but varies between games.

Rx 7800 xt has 16vram
Rtx 4070 super has 12 vram but with dlss 3 supported

But both card should work just fine in this game but if you are planning to play at 4k with dlss or fsr(not yet confirmed), 16 vram would definitely provide a more stable frametime which means smoother gameplay.

BUT, at this point you might as well wait for rx 8800 xt release in the end of next month, which provides a rtx 4080 performance at the price range of 500 usd to 800 usd. (Price not yet confirmed )

[Redcold 翔翔]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

I would highly advise you speak to a PC guy in person. Advice online is very hit or miss, and there could easily be someone trying to trick you into buying garbage. Never put faith into people online, especially on Steam, for that kind of assistance.

For example, some people will Recommend you to get the 4070 Super, but from my research, there is a card from the 3.xx series that is barely worse than that, for a LOT less.

As for the Rx? Radeon... gross.

I disagree, of course you can get rtx 3090(24 vram) or 3080 ti(12 vram) at a much lower price range than rtx 4070 Super but at a cost of way higher power consumption and no support for dlss frame generation.

Let's not talk about rtx 3080 that only has 10 vram which is definitely not enough for bad ps5 game pc port at 1440p resolution at ultra texture setting.

[_Yoonzin0_]

Originally posted by Redcold 翔翔:

Amd yes
Both card has same performance after amd driver update, but varies between games.

Rx 7800 xt has 16vram
Rtx 4070 super has 12 vram but with dlss 3 supported

But both card should work just fine in this game but if you are planning to play at 4k with dlss or fsr(not yet confirmed), 16 vram would definitely provide a more stable frametime which means smoother gameplay.

BUT, at this point you might as well wait for rx 8800 xt release in the end of next month, which provides a rtx 4080 performance at the price range of 500 usd to 800 usd. (Price not yet confirmed )

I'm taking notes, thank you!

[dannyj147]

Go for RTX 4070, driver support is better and ray tracing runs better on RTX cards.

[Andar]

I'd highly recommend visiting a dedicated PC hardware forum such as overclockers.co.uk or similar, you're going to get some very skewed and probably biased advice from places like this. I've been building my own PC's since the 90's and I'm quite heavily involved in the tech scene outside of that, there's not a chance in hell that I'd put my two pence in on the Steam forums while dealing with the utter nonsense takes some people come out with.

[Redcold 翔翔]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

I would highly advise you speak to a PC guy in person. Advice online is very hit or miss, and there could easily be someone trying to trick you into buying garbage. Never put faith into people online, especially on Steam, for that kind of assistance.

For example, some people will Recommend you to get the 4070 Super, but from my research, there is a card from the 3.xx series that is barely worse than that, for a LOT less.

As for the Rx? Radeon... gross.

Funny how rx radeon card are decent especially the mentioned rx 7800 xt and yet, you just said its gross and move on?

I think the only person that is tricking people into buying garbage is you.

[JasonMassaker]

The main question is wich resolution do you play.

and for reference UE4 need good CPUs or it stutters a loot more, and under 8 real cores isnt a good idead.

[KaosReigns]

Originally posted by Redcold 翔翔:

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

I would highly advise you speak to a PC guy in person. Advice online is very hit or miss, and there could easily be someone trying to trick you into buying garbage. Never put faith into people online, especially on Steam, for that kind of assistance.

For example, some people will Recommend you to get the 4070 Super, but from my research, there is a card from the 3.xx series that is barely worse than that, for a LOT less.

As for the Rx? Radeon... gross.

Funny how rx radeon card are decent especially the mentioned rx 7800 xt and yet, you just said its gross and move on?

I think the only person that is tricking people into buying garbage is you.

What is the point in this? To try and bait me into some kinda BS argument you have made up in your head?

This is your second reply to me, about the same post. Just because you need your hand held though.

I never told anyone at anytime to buy anything. If you actually read the post you quoted twice, even one time, youd have realized that.

As for the "Gross" comment, pretty sure most people will actually realize what I was doing there. It is a long standing battle between Nvidia and Radeon, clearly, im personally on the Nvidia side, hence the "Gross". I never even implied he shouldnt get a Radeon, as that is his decision.

At the very least, you showed the OP that under no circumstance should he listen to any advice from you, if my one post managed to trigger you like this.

[dlux]

I'd honeslty wait until January 8th, because new Radeon cards with vastly improved ray tracing are being introduced, and they should be on sale shortly thereafter.

[_Yoonzin0_]

Originally posted by JasonMassaker:

The main question is wich resolution do you play.

and for reference UE4 need good CPUs or it stutters a loot more, and under 8 real cores isnt a good idead.

I'm not searching for 4k ultra, I'm often playing in 1080p

[_Yoonzin0_]

Originally posted by Andar:

I'd highly recommend visiting a dedicated PC hardware forum such as overclockers.co.uk or similar, you're going to get some very skewed and probably biased advice from places like this. I've been building my own PC's since the 90's and I'm quite heavily involved in the tech scene outside of that, there's not a chance in hell that I'd put my two pence in on the Steam forums while dealing with the utter nonsense takes some people come out with.

Thank you!

[MaWa_uk]

As a now 9800x3d and rtx 4090 owner and previously 3800x and RX5700, I can tell you that you really don't need to buy anything super powerful if you don't care about optional features such as DLSS (frame gen and/or upscaling) and ray tracing. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have but most of the time you won't tell the difference once you've actually got into the game you're playing if you're enjoying the game content.

Someone said in an earlier post to check in the overclockers uk forum. I second that. Very knowledgeable people who will give you good hardware advice based on your budget and requirements with no judgement or instant recommendations of buying the ultimate best kit regardless of the situation.

As a user of both AMD and nvidia I can honestly say don't be afraid to go AMD if it respects your budget a bit more. Their cards are very similar in terms of raw performance (minus the shiny ray tracing).

Hope this helps

[valium]

Dont be afraid to buy based on performance over gimmicks. Frame gen is beyond overrated.

Dont be lured in with promises of being "future proof", that is always sweet little lies. You can go with perpetually mid range, and your wallet will be happier in the long run.