FINAL FANTASY REBIRTH HAS A DENUVO ?

[romanrrd6]

final fantasy xvi has Denuvo, will this one also have it? I would like to know 100% so I can preorder, thank you

[Waifu4Life]

The trick is NOT to pre-order a digital game.

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by dlux:

Originally posted by CheeseBoar:

We don't have to pay to use the forums. Try again.

Since when are video games free, if you don't pirate them?

That's exactly the point that I'm trying to make. We don't have to pay to use the forums, so requiring the internet is fine, and no one complains. But we do have to pay for the games, so we shouldn't have to be forced to get online and ask permission to play what they took money from us for.

[IsolatedOctopi]

Valve should have some contact with Denuvo :: they should create an unique identifier created on base to your hardware profile + steam account :: if they confirm the GUID (UUI), is in their database checks from Denuvo should be automatically off along all the gameplay :: I've seen recently Valve introduced antipiracy policies, they detect if you install a pirate game and shows as "to purchase" in the library

[Zunnoab #931]

Are people under the mistaken impression Valve doesn't provide DRM? Denuvo is just particularly aggressive DRM.

That said it's optional. They (probably accidentally) released Final Fantasy X/X-2 without any DRM whatsoever. And they have fully removed it from some games after removing Denuvo.

It's not listed on the store page so it probably won't have it, however the more recent situation of Denuvo being removed after 6-12 months is an ideal middle ground if they do use it.

It's such a meme though that it's probably more harm to include it than not.

[BigMak]

Originally posted by zpiders:

I hope it has Denuvo to stop pirates. I just did a quick check on a prominent pirating site and did a search for FF16, it's not there so its doing its job!

That's all good, but if they region lock it like the did with Ghosts and God of War Ragnarok that will cut off many people

[Ricky]

Originally posted by zpiders:

I hope it has Denuvo to stop pirates. I just did a quick check on a prominent pirating site and did a search for FF16, it's not there so its doing its job!

Also has the opposite effect, i haven't brought FF16 for that reason.

I don't mind waiting till it's removed and on sale.

But that is the reason i didn't buy it.

[Redcold 翔翔]

Probably won't have denuvo because they always put it on steam page directly saying 3rd party blahblahblah denuvo

if it's not there, then it has no denuvo.

[Maiden Lightlina]

It doesn't say it on the page, but please keep your tin foil hate close by just incase.

Originally posted by zpiders:

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

Oh great, another Denuvo defender using the pirates excuse again.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS! We don't want to be forced to connect to the internet to activate a single player game, this is annoying for those on portable devices like Steam Deck or a laptop where the game has been installed for later use.
Also, there's the performance issues, extended load times and inflated exe file sizes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07NMuobVVwQ

Bethesda used Denuvo correctly in Indiana Jones by only having it in the review copies.

I totally understand your point of view but the purpose of Denuvo is to stop games from being pirated, in FF16's case, its absolutely doing its job. I have FF16 and if there is a performance hit, its very negligible, especially when using Lyall's fix.

They are not here to "understand" because they are incapable of it, they just need you to agree that it's bad or you will never hear the end of it.

it's just funny how they keep bringing up that activation limit, or "i dOnT wAnNa aLwAys bE oNlIne!!!" as if they will ever reach it or not be online for the absurd amount of time it take to need to check in.

it's all just false excuses that they have in their rotation to keep this endless conversation going, don't take any of them seriously. because they honestly don't even understand what it's meant to actually meant to do, evidenced by claming it's "spyware" or "malware" these are the ones with the least amount of brain cells that have 0 clue and should be laughed at for the clowns they are, the only thing that matters is "DRM bad" and you HAVE to agree. Think of the these people as arguing with gold fish, you will get no where every time.

and givin that deunvo games are not being cracked at all most of the time, they are REALLY upset and snarling more than usual.

[luismakeup08]

Originally posted by dlux:

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

We don't want to be forced to connect to the internet

Funny how Denuvo haters don't have any problems with being forced to connect to the internet to whine on the forums.

I love how denuvo lovers like to have spyware in their computers, because thats another thing about denuvo

[Drake22]

Originally posted by dlux:

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

We don't want to be forced to connect to the internet

Funny how Denuvo haters don't have any problems with being forced to connect to the internet to whine on the forums.

there was a storm in my country and we had heck still have internet issues 6 months on I despise denuvo because I couldn't play p5 for a long while fk em

[Evangela]

Remake didn't have it for some reason, but most SE games recently have Denuvo, even the smaller games.

They might add Denuvo near the release date. No one knows.

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by Evangela:

Remake didn't have it for some reason, but most SE games recently have Denuvo, even the smaller games.

They might add Denuvo near the release date. No one knows.

Remake more than likely didn't have it because Square Enix got Epic times exclusivity money. That being said, Crisis Core launched on Steam at full price, and it didn't have Denuvo, either.

[KaosReigns]

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Are people under the mistaken impression Valve doesn't provide DRM? Denuvo is just particularly aggressive DRM.

Steam IS DRM, which is why this entire conversation is pointless, and always has been. I have no idea how many times ive explained to others how Steam itself, is not only DRM, but also a third party at ALL TIMES, with the exception of Dota2 and Artifact, you know, games Valve made.

Its pretty annoying constantly trying to explain this to a wall, so I simply gave up at this point, because no logical reason or explanation, will appease that side of the crowd. They are looking for things to complain about.

For those that somehow dont know, the reason Steam is DRM, is because you cant run most games, without Steam running in the background. Most games, simply wont launch when steam isnt running. That is by definition, DRM.

[Zunnoab #931]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Are people under the mistaken impression Valve doesn't provide DRM? Denuvo is just particularly aggressive DRM.

Steam IS DRM, which is why this entire conversation is pointless, and always has been. I have no idea how many times ive explained to others how Steam itself, is not only DRM, but also a third party at ALL TIMES, with the exception of Dota2 and Artifact, you know, games Valve made.

Its pretty annoying constantly trying to explain this to a wall, so I simply gave up at this point, because no logical reason or explanation, will appease that side of the crowd. They are looking for things to complain about.

For those that somehow dont know, the reason Steam is DRM, is because you cant run most games, without Steam running in the background. Most games, simply wont launch when steam isnt running. That is by definition, DRM.

Steam is not DRM for the simple reason as you said "most." It's not something that's required. In fact even Final Fantasy X/X-2 has never required it (except for a very late patch that they got rid of a long time after release).

Steam provides optional DRM. But it's not intrinsically DRM itself. There are hundreds/thousands of DRM free games, even if most are not.

Larian is a particularly high profile example, with even Baldur's Gate 3 being DRM free.

[dannyj147]

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

Steam IS DRM, which is why this entire conversation is pointless, and always has been. I have no idea how many times ive explained to others how Steam itself, is not only DRM, but also a third party at ALL TIMES, with the exception of Dota2 and Artifact, you know, games Valve made.

Its pretty annoying constantly trying to explain this to a wall, so I simply gave up at this point, because no logical reason or explanation, will appease that side of the crowd. They are looking for things to complain about.

For those that somehow dont know, the reason Steam is DRM, is because you cant run most games, without Steam running in the background. Most games, simply wont launch when steam isnt running. That is by definition, DRM.

Steam is not DRM for the simple reason as you said "most." It's not something that's required. In fact even Final Fantasy X/X-2 has never required it (except for a very late patch that they got rid of a long time after release).

Steam provides optional DRM. But it's not intrinsically DRM itself. There are hundreds/thousands of DRM free games, even if most are not.

Larian is a particularly high profile example, with even Baldur's Gate 3 being DRM free.

CDPR too. Witcher games and Cyberpunk are DRM free.