Rework Melee

[ComorbidDisorder]

Gotta say, the pickaxe you can use as a weapon is functionally useless.

If you ever try to strike a creature with it, you just get hit and drop it.

Perhaps there should be a different melee weapon?

Maybe pull an Resident Evil and add a knife that you can use to defend yourself when attacked?

Idk, it just seems like the only melee weapon in the game is better at killing teammates than actual enemies, considering a friend accidentally used it on me and my head immediately exploded...

[awesomeyewnie12]

it can be used to open locked doors or just to break doors

[ComorbidDisorder]

Originally posted by who's a good boy!!!!:

it can be used to open locked doors or just to break doors

I've seen people just sorta kick them down...

[Seafo]

Originally posted by ComorbidDisorder:

Originally posted by who's a good boy!!!!:

it can be used to open locked doors or just to break doors

I've seen people just sorta kick them down...

Kicking down doors is a failsafe added to make it impossible to get trapped in buildings, your character can only kick down a door if they are inside a compound and the power has been disabled via monster attacks. Helpful to make it so you don't get power sealed inside a command station for 70 minutes

[ComorbidDisorder]

Originally posted by SeafoDeer:

Originally posted by ComorbidDisorder:

I've seen people just sorta kick them down...

Kicking down doors is a failsafe added to make it impossible to get trapped in buildings, your character can only kick down a door if they are inside a compound and the power has been disabled via monster attacks. Helpful to make it so you don't get power sealed inside a command station for 70 minutes

Are you sure?

It could have been patched out, but I distinctly remember seeing in a video where two people were outside a locked door and they just sorta kicked it down.

[Robonos]

Originally posted by ComorbidDisorder:

Originally posted by SeafoDeer:

Kicking down doors is a failsafe added to make it impossible to get trapped in buildings, your character can only kick down a door if they are inside a compound and the power has been disabled via monster attacks. Helpful to make it so you don't get power sealed inside a command station for 70 minutes

Are you sure?

It could have been patched out, but I distinctly remember seeing in a video where two people were outside a locked door and they just sorta kicked it down.

It is a failsafe feature, not intended to work that way you are saying

[ComorbidDisorder]

Originally posted by Robonos:

Originally posted by ComorbidDisorder:

Are you sure?

It could have been patched out, but I distinctly remember seeing in a video where two people were outside a locked door and they just sorta kicked it down.

It is a failsafe feature, not intended to work that way you are saying

I get what you're saying, but sometimes features can accidentally be used in unintentional ways.

For example, the dev stated that trip mines weren't meant to be the obstacle that they currently are in the game, they were actually meant to be used by the players.

Yet, as they are, they are one of the main causes of player deaths.

I've seen the door being kicked down from the outside, rather than the inside.

[Block Turble]

It isn't meant to be a powerful weapon. Everything else has finite ammo/fuel, so something with no such limits would need to be pretty specific in use case...

As for that use case I can say getting hit and then hitting them while they're stunned works, or executing a teammate that got infected.

[Block Turble]

I should disclose I haven't tried the first option

[Voldo]

i would rather change pickaxe to fireman axe and make it do actual damage to monsters; if you take your chances with the monster in melee range, I would like the weapon in hand be more than useless decoration. it instakill allies though, so why not deal damage to monsters aswell.

[Snootch]

Originally posted by RiqCrow:

i would rather change pickaxe to fireman axe and make it do actual damage to monsters; if you take your chances with the monster in melee range, I would like the weapon in hand be more than useless decoration. it instakill allies though, so why not deal damage to monsters aswell.

It actually does damage to monsters. I use it to break down doors, kill dogs that I think are infected, and head crabs. The damage on larger creatures isn't as good as a gun will do significantly more damage than the pickaxe. If I'm not mistaken I think you can actually interrupt the grab animation to save a teammate with the pickaxe, though I've only saw that once and I'm not even sure if it was from the pickaxe itself.

[ComorbidDisorder]

Originally posted by RiqCrow:

i would rather change pickaxe to fireman axe and make it do actual damage to monsters; if you take your chances with the monster in melee range, I would like the weapon in hand be more than useless decoration. it instakill allies though, so why not deal damage to monsters aswell.

The problem isn't the damage, the problem is the proximity.

You can't get close enough to melee the monsters, because they just attack you and make you drop your weapon.

[Voldo]

Originally posted by ComorbidDisorder:

The problem isn't the damage, the problem is the proximity.

kinda hard to see that, we had 2 players trying to whack one monster with pickaxes and it did absolutely nothing to it, while trying to hit a door while ally is standing next to it? ally dies instantly. not seeing correlation with damage between to other players and monsters

[ComorbidDisorder]

Originally posted by RiqCrow:

Originally posted by ComorbidDisorder:

The problem isn't the damage, the problem is the proximity.

kinda hard to see that, we had 2 players trying to whack one monster with pickaxes and it did absolutely nothing to it, while trying to hit a door while ally is standing next to it? ally dies instantly. not seeing correlation with damage between to other players and monsters

I've had the exact same experience (friend accidentally killed me with pickaxe).

Maybe it's just inconsistent, because if you ever try to use it on a monster, you get grabbed and drop it.

[Kitalula]

I would love a usable melee weapon, even just a pipe or a bat would be better than nothing.

[ComorbidDisorder]

Originally posted by Kita:

I would love a usable melee weapon, even just a pipe or a bat would be better than nothing.

Beat them with your bare hands.