PC version is the 8th Gen console version this year - WWE 2K25 Edition

[Zeokage]

Publicado originalmente por 2K:

What are the differences between the 8th and 9th Gen versions?

• The Island is only on PS5/XBS

This is the thread to discuss the next-gen version of the game sticking to 9th Gen consoles this year and not coming to PC.

Here's a personal opinion on this that a member of 2K staff provided in the past for NBA 2K as the same thing happened with that franchise:

Wanted to address the PC discussion and give some insight from a business perspective on why it takes time for sports games to make the transition on PC's vs. console. I can assure you, this isn't 'laziness', in fact, this has been the case nearly every single generation - it normally takes a few years to see this change occur. Here's a big reason why:

As much as hardcore gamers buy new consoles or super high-powered PC's, most players do not own the biggest/brightest tech out there. When looking at what gen to put on PC, you have to look at the player base, and what capabilities their hardware has from a minimum spec perspective.

So let's say to run the new gen you need a much higher spec'ed PC, you may cut off 30-40% of the PC market, who is able to play the game at min-spec on older gen. Usually after new consoles come out, there's a big uptick in players improving PC's more casually, and games that have yearly iterations base decisions like this on the percentage of players on PC who meet the min spec threshold.

I know most in here are hardcore players, as are most of us, so this can be frustrating, but PC is vastly different than console, where everyone is on the same machine. Therefore, you have to base decisions on where the most amount of players can play. That's the business side of it.

Note that this is not an official statement.

[YVNGHov]

Tbh I don’t care a out the island stuff especially after previous experiences from playing nba 2k what I hope is that the models don’t look like old gen on pc and while current gen console get better models

[Dave Johnson]

the PS5's equivalent GPU is an RX 6700.
Last I checked, most PC players with dedicated GPUs are rocking an RTX 3060. (slower)
Although I don't really understand why an extra map would jack the requirements up so much higher... probably just withholding it in order to have a "selling point" for 2K26 on PC.

[KeV]

Publicado originalmente por dokoham:

no island only or totally last Gen?
anyone know more info?
when i see early access 7 days before i am super hype
now... T T

Apparently only "The Island" will be missing on the pc version, the rest is equivalent to the PS5 and Xbox version it seems.

The City in the NBA games was already garbage, now we get the same in the WWE games. I'm kinda glad it's missing, but i feel disrespected as a PC player.

But hey for the missing Island-exclusive items, we get.... *checks notes* .... 15.000 VC. Amazing work <_<

[jerarcoldblood]

2K has really messed up this time. Us PC gamers are the backbone of the gaming world. To only release a game mode for 2 consoles that have minimal specs with regard to the graphics capabilities in our current environment is ridiculous. If you have a good gaming rig, then you know you're smoking any PS5 or XBox Series X! I currently run WWE 2K24 with maxed out settings and it is night and day compared to PS4 or Xbox One. When compared to PS5 and Xbox Series X it is dead even and to be honest, I feel like the animation is smoother than what the next gens are doing. Not opening up The Island to PC gamers that have the proper specs is just pure laziness and sadly, it's gonna cost them. What PC user wants to spend $120+ on a game where access to a new game mode is absent.

[Zeokage]

Publicado originalmente por Kankaku:

Publicado originalmente por Zeokage:

Most people don't have high-end PCs. It's not about what you spent on your system, it's how much they'll make on people buying the game. If the game doesn't work for most, that's less of a return.

Look at the steam hardware metrics. That's not true.

Publicado originalmente por Dave Johnson:

the PS5's equivalent GPU is an RX 6700.
Last I checked, most PC players with dedicated GPUs are rocking an RTX 3060. (slower)

I think you're both talking about the same thing, but the hardware survey just says 5% of people are using it from what I see there, unless I missed something.

Has anyone ever charted those numbers and ordered the video cards by benchmark?

[WARLOCK_HOT]

Are we still getting the last gen version?

i feel like WWE games would have a much higher fanbase on PC than the other 2k games. why are we still getting shafted...

[HendAdneH]

WWE on PC is 2K's lowest drawing game. The online active players only ever peaked at 4000 players online for 2K24, meaning at any given time, the highest amount online on the game was 4000 players and it steadily dropped.

[stav8]

Just don't buy it. Hurt their bottom line

[stav8]

Publicado originalmente por HendAdneH:

WWE on PC is 2K's lowest drawing game. The online active players only ever peaked at 4000 players online for 2K24, meaning at any given time, the highest amount online on the game was 4000 players and it steadily dropped.

Consoles online peaks weren't much better until it was free on ps+

[itS_Fox]

Publicado originalmente por FailingAtom2:

i may have to re think buying this i was kinda excited about the island stuff and now this crap i really hope that this is not true

it is, sadly.

https://support.2k.com/hc/en-us/articles/37145831078163--WWE-2K25-Pre-Order-and-Edition-FAQ

Publicado originalmente por 2K:

Is anything exclusive to Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5 ?

Yes. The Island game mode is exclusive to Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5. Players on Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5 also receive special cosmetics for use on The Island included in the Wyatt Sicks Pack and The Bloodline Edition Bonus Pack.

[itS_Fox]

Publicado originalmente por Zeokage:

Publicado originalmente por Kankaku:

Look at the steam hardware metrics. That's not true.

Publicado originalmente por Dave Johnson:

the PS5's equivalent GPU is an RX 6700.
Last I checked, most PC players with dedicated GPUs are rocking an RTX 3060. (slower)

I think you're both talking about the same thing, but the hardware survey just says 5% of people are using it from what I see there, unless I missed something.

Has anyone ever charted those numbers and ordered the video cards by benchmark?

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam


The PlayStation 5 GPU delivers around 10.3 TFLOPS of theoretical performance (AMD RDNA 2 architecture). Based on gaming benchmarks (not just raw processing power), the PS5 is generally compared to GPUs like the Radeon RX 5700 XT, RX 6600 XT, RTX 2070 SUPER, or RTX 3060 and above.

If we focus only on GPUs that, on average, match or surpass the PS5 in performance, the total percentage from this list comes out to approximately 52.33%.

This means that roughly half (a little over 50%) of the listed systems have GPUs at or above PlayStation 5-level performance.

Therefore, we can confidently say that 2K’s decision to release a past-gen version of WWE 2K25 on PC isn’t due to weak hardware among PC players. Instead, it’s driven by budget-saving measures, prioritizing consoles, and undervaluing the PC audience. 2K likely assumes that a current-gen version won’t generate enough profit, so they’ve chosen to skip a proper adaptation.

This damages 2K’s reputation, and the only way for dissatisfied PC gamers to make their voices heard is simple: don’t buy the game.

At least if you're not happy with it and don't want to support it.

[Zeokage]

And what about processors? If they go the same way as NBA 2K, then AVX2 seems to cut off a lot of people from the game.

I'm not saying that it's not to do with the bottom line in some way as well, but I'm not sure just over half is enough to decide to make that jump (assuming the same proportions actually play the game). And they would have been making that decision early last year rather than now. There could be other developmental issues we'll never hear about as well.

[アウトコールド]

The PS5 came out over 4 years ago. My PC blows the Playstation 5 out of the water. This is BS.

[itS_Fox]

Publicado originalmente por Zeokage:

And what about processors? If they go the same way as NBA 2K, then AVX2 seems to cut off a lot of people from the game.

I'm not saying that it's not to do with the bottom line in some way as well, but I'm not sure just over half is enough to decide to make that jump (assuming the same proportions actually play the game). And they would have been making that decision early last year rather than now. There could be other developmental issues we'll never hear about as well.

Well, AVX2 was introduced by Intel in 2013 and by AMD in 2015. And we are in 2025.

On the same page - Other Settings - AVX2 110.82%+16.38% (I have no idea how it can be more than 100%, but there's a discussion about AVX2=90% on Reddit regarding the July 2023 report).



Again, we can assume whatever we want, but the main issue is that the developer has never even tried to explain this decision in any way. This is an example of poor communication with the community at its core.

And that's exactly why we will never know the real reason.

[Vixifae]

Publicado originalmente por Zeokage:

Publicado originalmente por RobotMan #08:

Not gonna buy and support this then if they can't give PC users the same content. Considering PC as "Last Gen" is ridiculous as all game consoles strive to be powerful and can't match a well built PC's specs on its best day.

There are people who don't have the specs for 2K24 as it is. It took a few years for NBA 2K to get there so it's probably a planned strategy.

i disagree with this. nba got this for nba 2k25. why is wwe lacking it? there is 0 excuse for this. the devs are just f*cking lazy. be honest. 2k24 had next gen features. they have clearly been working on moving pc to next gen for years. why are we not on par to next gen. there is no excuse what so ever. why even release this game on last gen consoles. hell why even release this on pc if your not going to include the most hyped up feature. just go back to releasing it only on consoles. this is bull sh*t. 2k are still in 2022 apparently as they still say ps5 and xbox x/s are "next gen" even though they have been current gen for at least a year now.