Stuck to low quality assets in match

[Sangral]

Anyone else having this problem? I have set everything to max settings but something seems broken on PC. In a match everyone has low quality hair and body textures but if I choose Highlight Reel then everything is how it should be and transforms into high quality.

I heard from someone that did not have this problem but I am sitting here with my 4090 and 7800X3D and have this.

How about you guys?

In match:
https://c.l3n.co/i/Yb6wfD.png

Highlight Reel:
https://a.l3n.co/i/Yb6bp0.png

You can also see this problem here in this video from someone (Look at Cody's hair)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrMK7JYvTRI

EDIT:

I nailed the problem a little bit down. I did lot's of more comparisons. Found out that low asset models seems to glitch through the attire very often like Tonga Loa here:

https://b.l3n.co/i/YbqmQq.png

Which doesn't happen on the high quality assets.

And then I found out that it's probably LOD based, and therefore an LOD problem. If I go very close to the model with the third person camera, it changes to high quality. So this is what's actually broken. The LOD is so short that the normal gameplay camera can't reach it and everything is low asset models in normal gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoR0vBt3EaI

Edit 2:

Here are 2 more examples of this issue. Every PC version has this and yes, it's indeed because the LOD distance for High Quality assets is set too close to the models so it never triggers. This leads to moments like this where the bell rings and the second the match starts, all 4 characters turn into lower asset characters.

https://youtu.be/VrkcnuQpQ_Q

Or, problems like this, where I am sure that 2K doesn't wan't this to be a huge topic on social media.
Because you are only seeing lower asset models in gameplay, these models have slightly changed bodies and these don't react well anymore to the attires they are wearing. So you are constantly having smaller or bigger parts of the body glitching through the clothing, like here.

https://youtu.be/On6Kp_oZQ8o

I am sure it's in 2Ks interest to get this fixed.

UPDATE:

https://c.l3n.co/i/oVcuQa.jpg

The LOD issue is now officially in the Tracker of 2K for current problems! Please upvote to make them fix this.

https://support.wwe2k.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/39519897677075-Play-Graphic-Quality-Randomly-Appears-Low-in-Gamplay-and-Highlight-Reels

They still got the description half wrong here tho. 🤦🏻‍♂️ The issue is always in gameplay and always because of a very simple and instantly noticable reason (The LOD "trigger" being too close to the characters) and not random and it is not appearing in Highlight Reel at all, that's why you can use Highlight Reel to compare.
It's like you explain things to them like they're 5 and they still throw every information together like AI 1.0 and make something confusing out of it. 😂


But still, upvoting would be nice.

[neilencio]

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

Oprindeligt skrevet af neilencio:

You guys are just going in circles with this thing. And no one will budge. Just agree to disagree and wait for the devs to fix or dismiss the issue (if it's just user error).

It's kinda like the issue with the MyRise crash. There are people who did not encounter the issue. But the devs eventually patched it (which confirms that the problem is on 2k's end).

Most of the crashes are hard to reproduce and often are hardware related. This issue can be reproduced after 2 minutes with 100% success rate. 2K showed already that they don't care much so when no one is talking about it, they will most likely let it be.

The Myrise Crash isn't hardware related, because the fix was easy - just delete the save and start a MyRise save before playing Showcase. And it happened to people who unlocked most of the stuff in showcase first before playing myrise. It's just not feasible for people who already unlocked a lot of showcase stuff (particularly that tedious 5-woman MITB match).

...and then 2K devs went ahead and fixed the issue so that people who were having crashes didn't need to do anything, The Myrise mode just started working after the patch.

By dismissing the MyRise crash issue as "hard to reproduce and often are hardware related," you've done the same thing that you were having an issue with - blamed it on user error instead of 2K devs.

[WestJake]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Zeokage:

Can you all post your specs here for comparison if you haven't already? It might be related... They might have made a decision to change the crossover point for using the lower quality models in this year's game.

The problem is the level of detail values. 2k24 have lods change as well BUT it can be seen only when camera zooms A LOT so you can't properly see those low quality models. They just have to set LOD values to higher distance.

[WestJake]

Oprindeligt skrevet af neilencio:

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

Most of the crashes are hard to reproduce and often are hardware related. This issue can be reproduced after 2 minutes with 100% success rate. 2K showed already that they don't care much so when no one is talking about it, they will most likely let it be.

The Myrise Crash isn't hardware related, because the fix was easy - just delete the save and start a MyRise save before playing Showcase. And it happened to people who unlocked most of the stuff in showcase first before playing myrise. It's just not feasible for people who already unlocked a lot of showcase stuff (particularly that tedious 5-woman MITB match).

...and then 2K devs went ahead and fixed the issue so that people who were having crashes didn't need to do anything, The Myrise mode just started working after the patch.

By dismissing the MyRise crash issue as "hard to reproduce and often are hardware related," you've done the same thing that you were having an issue with - blamed it on user error instead of 2K devs.

I wasn't talking about myrise crash at all. I was talking about crashes in general. These might be hardware related unlike this LOD issue.

[KeV]

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

The problem is the level of detail values. 2k24 have lods change as well BUT it can be seen only when camera zooms A LOT so you can't properly see those low quality models. They just have to set LOD values to higher distance.

It's quite annoying to see the whole "might be hardware related" excuse every time. They simply messed up this year. Especially bc it happens on the PS5 aswell. Maybe they should compare their specs asw- oh wait

In MyRise when you side with Drew McIntyre the chest glitches through his jacket. It's right in your face. There's so many little things where they just didn't care

[neilencio]

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

Oprindeligt skrevet af neilencio:

The Myrise Crash isn't hardware related, because the fix was easy - just delete the save and start a MyRise save before playing Showcase. And it happened to people who unlocked most of the stuff in showcase first before playing myrise. It's just not feasible for people who already unlocked a lot of showcase stuff (particularly that tedious 5-woman MITB match).

...and then 2K devs went ahead and fixed the issue so that people who were having crashes didn't need to do anything, The Myrise mode just started working after the patch.

By dismissing the MyRise crash issue as "hard to reproduce and often are hardware related," you've done the same thing that you were having an issue with - blamed it on user error instead of 2K devs.

I wasn't talking about myrise crash at all. I was talking about crashes in general. These might be hardware related unlike this LOD issue.

My post that you quoted and replied to was talking about the MyRise crash.

But fair enough, I'm not being argumentative. I'm getting off topic and I don't want to distract from the LOD issue. Have a good day :)

[Highway]

Don't get me wrong, I always demand MORE quality in games assets for PC users, Im just not having the issue yet, i can benchmark this game at 250fps on best settings in 4k... so plenty of overhead to fill

[Highway]

Hmmm I wonder... if this glitch is coming from the new ingame multi-wrestler performance option having a glitch, since that would effect the LOD draws.

[WestJake]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Highway:

Hmmm I wonder... if this glitch is coming from the new ingame multi-wrestler performance option having a glitch, since that would effect the LOD draws.

I definitely have that option off, set everything to max.

[KeV]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Highway:

Don't get me wrong, I always demand MORE quality in games assets for PC users, Im just not having the issue yet, i can benchmark this game at 250fps on best settings in 4k... so plenty of overhead to fill

All i see in your posts is blaming other users and acting all high and mighty bc of your specs. Some humility would help you to attract less criticism.

I can run the game on high settings aswell, but that doesn't mean that there are no issues. Crowds are blurry, hair switches to low detail. I have screenshots of the camera moving an inch out of place and suddenly Montez Ford hair looks like someone had a broken lawnmower.

[Zeokage]

Oprindeligt skrevet af KeV:

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

The problem is the level of detail values. 2k24 have lods change as well BUT it can be seen only when camera zooms A LOT so you can't properly see those low quality models. They just have to set LOD values to higher distance.

It's quite annoying to see the whole "might be hardware related" excuse every time. They simply messed up this year. Especially bc it happens on the PS5 aswell. Maybe they should compare their specs asw- oh wait :squirtheh:

Just to clarify, I was asking in order to eliminate that from the possibilities. If you all have the same hardware then it could be down to subjective perception of the models if you're getting different results. If not, there may be a line somewhere or you're doing different checks/settings without knowing it.

And "aswell" is not a word...

[Highway]

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Highway:

Hmmm I wonder... if this glitch is coming from the new ingame multi-wrestler performance option having a glitch, since that would effect the LOD draws.

I definitely have that option off, set everything to max.

BUT if that was glitched so is on when set to off....

[Highway]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Zeokage:

Oprindeligt skrevet af KeV:

It's quite annoying to see the whole "might be hardware related" excuse every time. They simply messed up this year. Especially bc it happens on the PS5 aswell. Maybe they should compare their specs asw- oh wait :squirtheh:

Just to clarify, I was asking in order to eliminate that from the possibilities. If you all have the same hardware then it could be down to subjective perception of the models if you're getting different results. If not, there may be a line somewhere or you're doing different checks/settings without knowing it.

And "aswell" is not a word...

Amazing isn't it? the people dont take the time or have manners to logically think about obvious steps to identify problems that can be caused by a huge range of PC hardware variations, and jump straight to it's always the game.... sure it probably is a glitch in the game, but having worked in IT and gaming for decades.... you'd be amazed at excuses people come up with for what is often just user error and lack of understanding how to configure a PC properly. Got a problem? okay fill in a support ticket and don't get hostile with people that dont have the same issue that are trying to offer possible causes.

[WestJake]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Highway:

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

I definitely have that option off, set everything to max.

BUT if that was glitched so is on when set to off....

I don't think it's the case because consoles don't have this option I assume and the exact same issue is there as well. Unless VC messed something up badly.

[Highway]

Oprindeligt skrevet af WestJake:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Highway:

BUT if that was glitched so is on when set to off....

I don't think it's the case because consoles don't have this option I assume and the exact same issue is there as well. Unless VC messed something up badly.

I would assume consoles have it always on.... given how under powered they are, and that the devs maybe were a bit too tight in LOD restriction to performance ratios and somehow this glitch persists in the PC code, but isnt effecting all on PC.

[KeV]

You can also tell there's more jaggy edges around the crowd and the ropes. I was just playing a match to compare some options and the aliasing isn't working as intended.

Going into Highlight Reel, the aliasing works and the crowd looks better. Others reported the same concerning the issues with the hair like Cody's or Montez'. It is definitely a bug in matches, otherwise these issues would still be noticable in Highlight Reel during the same match on the same hardware