Emma vs Emily in Episode 4 SPOILERS

[Vinznt]

I was playing Episode 4 when I got to the part where the person I thought was Emily was really Emma. Surprise!

I went back and played Episode 3 again and I suspect the developers changed their minds, after the fact, of which sister was which. Unless there's some hints that I've been overlooking Episode 3 makes it very much seem that the sister behind you is Emily. If it really is a "gotcha! You made the wrong choice by paying attention!" Then I'm miffed. As now I'm not sure that the spear I chose is going to be the right spear in Episode 5. "Surprise! There is no real spear!"

Anyone have better information then what I have? xD Did anyone see the twist coming?

[Elathan]

Yes. I mistaked that as well the first time, but it was clear based on vulnerabilities that the one in front of you is Emily, and that was the general conclusion of the thread about it here as well.

The trick was the fact that Emma visited you the previous night.

[ashenendymion4]

If you ask the sister behind you a question using manipulation, you get hit with an immunity(to Emma), while using manipulation on Emily has always worked to that point.

If you ask manipulation to the one in front of you, but also found out of Emma's immunity to manipulation the night prior, it also works as a reasonable deduction...

If you don't do either, then you can't say for certain which Emily is which, and thus can't really complain about a gotcha, in my opinion....

[criffyzou]

They didn't change their minds, it was obvious the real Emily was the one in front of you and a lot of people got it right.

There's a thread about it somewhere with what tipped people.
Mine was: handing me the pistol/playing the victim and coming to my room the night before (I had already rejected Emily's advances in ep1). The forcefulness and the assumption that the damsel persona would win Louis over was a bit vexing.
Sure our Emily was also like that at first but she grew out of it and came to consider Louis better.

[Vinznt]

Originally posted by Elathan:

Yes. I mistaked that as well the first time, but it was clear based on vulnerabilities that the one in front of you is Emily, and that was the general conclusion of the thread about it here as well.

The trick was the fact that Emma visited you the previous night.

I guess I was more tricked by the writing of the two sisters during the face off it seemed very much like it was written that the sister in front was Emma. X_X

The thought of checking vulnerabilities never crossed my mind as I hadn't run into any odd stuff with vulnerabilities between the two up to that point.

[Vinznt]

Originally posted by ashenendymion4:

If you don't do either, then you can't say for certain which Emily is which, and thus can't really complain about a gotcha, in my opinion....

Yeah, this is what happened to me. I never tried using manipulation on Emma during the encounter the night before as I always assumed it was Emily and had unlocked the vulnerability before that so I never chose it ;_;

[Vinznt]

Originally posted by criffyzou:

They didn't change their minds, it was obvious the real Emily was the one in front of you and a lot of people got it right.

There's a thread about it somewhere with what tipped people.
Mine was: handing me the pistol/playing the victim and coming to my room the night before (I had already rejected Emily's advances in ep1). The forcefulness and the assumption that the damsel persona would win Louis over was a bit vexing.
Sure our Emily was also like that at first but she grew out of it and came to consider Louis better.

I suppose another bit that totally confused me was that Emma gives Louis the pistol, but Emily still won't put down her gun. Which doesn't make any sense to me. After reading all the other responses it's clear it was one of those situations where I never saw any of the hints even after 4 play throughs.

[alexmustafa]

i thought emma is dead in ep. 3 lol

[Jkay]

I got the real Emily right by choosing the one in front of me in Episode 3 (The immunity mentioned in the Journal was a give away).

I am however disappointed by the wharf incident in Episode 4. I mean, it was Emily herself who shot Emma dead in the previous episode, yet she now points her gun at Sarah as part of revenge?!

I would understand if it was Emma alive instead, but for Emily's case I kinda expected a different scenario.

[Elathan]

It was kinda because Emma went totally crazy after the accident which was caused my Sarah if I understood well. We aren't really sure what Sir Holmes did with her after all.

[ashem2]

There were few ways to distinguish who is emma and who is emily.
One of them is to cheat - when you speak with girl on the second night you can discover her vulnerability and it will go in your journal as emma's vulnerability. So that is slip up.
Second is if you chose particular way of speaking on second night, emma expose herself but corrects herself fast.
Third is their behaviour - emily on first night and in secret room doesnt really care about sides, emma on second is heavily pro-holm. And then she also go to napoleon with the same deal. That's very unlike what emily was doing.
So if that is not enough there is also very small slip up at the actual confrontaition but it requires some understanding of psychology (not ingame) to notice it.

[ashenendymion4]

Originally posted by ashem2:

There were few ways to distinguish who is emma and who is emily.
One of them is to cheat - when you speak with girl on the second night you can discover her vulnerability and it will go in your journal as emma's vulnerability. So that is slip up.
Second is if you chose particular way of speaking on second night, emma expose herself but corrects herself fast.
Third is their behaviour - emily on first night and in secret room doesnt really care about sides, emma on second is heavily pro-holm. And then she also go to napoleon with the same deal. That's very unlike what emily was doing.
So if that is not enough there is also very small slip up at the actual confrontaition but it requires some understanding of psychology (not ingame) to notice it.

Minor correction: Emily was visiting Napoleon trying to convince him to switch sides while Emma was with Louis. Emma didn't visit both.

Also they are both pro-Holm because they work for the Crown of England, and the Crown is still probably bitter with Mortimer about the American Rebellion(well.... we don't really know the reasons why, but Emily and Emma have been given orders by the Queen, and have no room to negotiate an alliance with anyone but Holm, according to the letter in her room). Emma is likely far more gung-ho about the arrangement of siding with Holm because she was saved by Holm after being shot by Sarah...

[K1lla]

So the real emily was in front of me right?

[K1lla]

Originally posted by K1lla69♥:

So the real emily was in front of me right?