Possibility for a Rise of Nations 2 game or mod

[alincarpetman]

Thanks to Skylabs for re-releasing Rise of Nations which is a unique game for its pan-historical, pan-global setting in a timeline of ages (others also such as Empire Earth, Civilization).

You can find a lot of mods here[ron.heavengames.com] and here, and talented modders in the RON Heavengames forum here[ron.heavengames.com].

There are also a lot of threads here at Steam discussing Rise of Legends which is a great game as well and I wanted to post a few things on the potential for a Rise of Nations 2 mod inside of Rise of Legends.

The Rise of Legends expansion and Rise of Nations 2 both seem to have been cancelled as you can read up here[ron.heavengames.com], so ROL never got full modding capability as neither did some limitations on RON get lifted until the Steam re-release. Since there is an opportunity for a Rise of Legends re-release, with better modding support, Rise of Nations fans may have a chance to create a RON "total conversion mod" or similar mods inside of the ROL game as seen with other rts games that have done this such as the Command and Conquer series (older C&C games get a mod "remake" in the newer ones).

Another option is to use the open source rts game 0 AD[forums.heavengames.com] for a RON mod as it will have full modding and already has some RON-like features.

BHG Games just released their latest game DomiNations[forums.heavengames.com] which looks like a mobile version of RON. Microsoft recently made a new studio Decisive Games which is working on "the next installment in a beloved strategy game franchise." - might this be an "Age of","Rise of" or otherwise related game?

So whether you are a Rise of Legends fan, hater, or don't care much either way which is ok - take a few moments to look through the links here and spread the word about a possible RON mod inside ROL. It's possible Skylabs may want to take a break from all the issues these re-releases have brought up, but I thought it would be interesting to post some info on this subject as it may not have occurred to some people that ROL's unique setting and features have potential for it as a moddable game besides a playable one.

You can write to Skybox here[forums.heavengames.com] with feedback and support for a Rise of Legends re-release.

You can find more info on Rise of Legends here:
ROL Forum at Heavengames[rol.heavengames.com]
ROL Encyclopedia[rol.heavengames.com]
Errors and suggestions for a re-release[rol.heavengames.com]
Wikia page[riseoflegends.wikia.com]
Mods at HG[rol.heavengames.com] and mods at Moddb
A Rise of Legends "All Modding, Scenario, Map and Script Editing Guides Pack" has been compiled as an intro to modding ROL in its current state and can be found in either of the mod links above.

[Praetorian]

Its Great the BHG came but their focus to mobile games is like mehh but i understand because they are starting from the bottom again they are no longer a big company working on an AAA so they might take a while idk if decisive games will make a RON or AOE game or ROLEE well find out soon when they release it to the public hope its a Rise of sequel not AoE

[[AS]_Pimp-Masterflex]

If Skybox owns the rights to RoL (and not just RoN), they could certainly do this ... but I would advise we look at this pragmatically.

Now Alin put a lot of detail in his post and that's great, certainly well thought out and not just some diarrhea of the mouth. However, I feel skeptical as to the power of their capabilities for modding in successful gameplay due to the failures in this Extended Edition

I'll keep it short since I'm on my phone.... but I would give Skybox a C- overall for RoN extended. If they put similar effort in RoL, then my concern is that the fan base for RoL and the fervor for it would start to diminish.

But it's always great to keep the hope. So on the uplifting side, since they would have no major authority over a RoN2, I guess they could be open arms for another RoL extension, so this campaign (and reminding them of their failures on RoN) might press then to do better in RoL

Probably not though, in my opinion, but I'm one that says hope > pragmatic thinking.

I would start out by talking with HelenAngel here on Steam, as she's in contact with a lot of the developers, so that could be a good place to start for you.

[alincarpetman]

Some good points, it's possible Skybox doesn't have ROL, it could be a different studio.

I've read here and there about the recent re-releases and how there are similar problems with each one.

Seems like the main issue with modding RON never get resolved with Steam Workshop - the hardcoded limits that needed to be changed to free up more possibilties with modding.

How does one get in touch with Helen/others?

[[AS]_Pimp-Masterflex]

http://steamcommunity.com/id/helenangel

Just friend her or send her a PM

[alincarpetman]

For everyone asking about RON updates and Rise of Legends on Steam - you can do a search on google or the RON hub here to find posts such as this thread that explains what is going on.

1 Here is a short summary:
- Microsoft bought the rights to RON and ROL in an auction a few years back
- RON was released as an EE on Steam in 2014
- Currently the Skybox and Forgotten Empires teams are focusing on AOE2 and AOM expansions
- Big Huge Games has nothing to do with these old games anymore so contacting them won't do anything, they released Dominations[dominations.nexonm.com] in 2015 and are focusing on that game and market now
- You can contact Skybox Labs here[skyboxlabs.com] with your support for RON & ROL if you wish, but it would probably help more if people didn't always complain and tried to brainstorm their own ideas (such as creating multiple playing-style groups for RON multiplayer instead of pros vs noobs and all that)


2 Rise of Legends modding & Rise of Nations 2 mod:
- A group of ROL players are currently making progress[rol.heavengames.com] with modding ROL to a greater capability than in the past - if we succeed this year then we will post our report everywhere and this will be good news for both ROL & RON players because:

- ROL players will be able to mod the game more and create better scenarios
- We will have a list of the unfinished content which may be added to a future ROL Steam EE & XP
- RON players will be able to use ROL to make RON mods as well as a "Rise of Nations 2 Total Conversion" because ROL graphics are better and the ROL Vinci (European swords, cannons & gunpowder) nation can be used as a base for the RON nations from Ancient to Modern epochs
- If you are interested in actually doing something and working on projects then please register at the HeavenGames forums here[ron.heavengames.com] and post in the RON[ron.heavengames.com] and ROL[rol.heavengames.com] forums
- The ROL modding thread is here[rol.heavengames.com] for any interested players, we will be updating this regularly for the rest of the year - we need experienced RTS game modders and we will mail you a free dvd copy of ROL if you don't have the game
- We would also like to re-vamp the RON & ROL HG websites as they are outdated and incomplete; and are the only remaining sources of game info besides Steam which can't host everything. If you would like to work on this project and volunteer as a moderator for the sites then email the HG staff here[www.heavengames.com]


3 Future news:
- We can speculate that Skybox & Forgotten will focus on the AOE2 African XP and AOM Chinese XP for the remainder of 2016 - they will probably release more updates for those 2 games as they are the most popular out of the Microsoft RTS series
- It's possible they will return to RON sometime in 2016, maybe even make an expansion for RON in the style of the AOE2 Forgotten or African XPs - there definitely is potential for this as many mods that add more nations like this already exist on Moddb and HG[ron.heavengames.com]
- As for a ROL EE on Steam, maybe in 2017, as well as an ROL XP which will add the unreleased content from when the game was unfinished - maybe both the EE and XP can be combined if there isn't enough to split into 2 releases


This should answer most questions so if you can send this out to your friends and link to this thread whenever someone asks about RON & ROL instead of creating multiple ROL threads.
Yes, I'm aware of the problems with AOE2, AOM & RON as well as other games on Steam, which is why I'm also concerned for future releases for RON & ROL as well.

And again, if your interested in making the RON Steam situation better and helping out with the ROL modding then thinking creatively and posting positive workaround solutions and ideas here at Steam and HG forums may help - while we can't solve every problem there still are some ideas that can help with some things.

[{-t2sa-}TGCVugi]

there are mods for RONTAP that are highly better than RONEE graphicaly.. and there is also my patch that allow rontap to be played online as on gamespy..... well anyway.. community made better product than skybox..
and the only crap im willing to speculate or talk about is boycotting them
p.s. i feel really sorry for people who support ROL to be released by skybox.. you guys.. sorry.. need a life.

[Praetorian]

引用自 {-t2sa-}TGCVugi：

there are mods for RONTAP that are highly better than RONEE graphicaly.. and there is also my patch that allow rontap to be played online as on gamespy..... well anyway.. community made better product than skybox..
and the only crap im willing to speculate or talk about is boycotting them
p.s. i feel really sorry for people who support ROL to be released by skybox.. you guys.. sorry.. need a life.

Hey vugi your patch is not usable anymore right ?? since gamespy cuts off online support for RON

[{-t2sa-}TGCVugi]

nono, its usable, just not release to the public atm

[alincarpetman]

Ryder has created ROL BIG Archiver, which answers the prayers of Rise of Legends fans worldwide as the BIG files are now extractable for editing, modding, importing and exporting back into the game.

- You can view some of the hidden files retrieved from the BIG files here
- You can download the program here[www.petartasev.com], submit errors here[github.com], donate here[www.petartasev.com], and discuss this at the HG Modifications forum here[rol.heavengames.com] with any questions, tests and projects

- Fans of ROL can now mod the game using the info and tools here
- Fans of Rise of Nations and both games can now make a Rise of Nations 2 Total Conversion Mod for ROL using the ROL BIG Archiver, 3DSMax and other programs
- We are giving away copies of ROL to any serious modders and programmers who are interested, please see this thread here[rol.heavengames.com] for the details

- In the near future we need a programmer to create a Blender addon for ROL for editing the 3D models as only 3DSMax can be used and it is expensive for non-students and game industry people. Ryder has created a Blender addon here for Rise of Nations, maybe someone else can make one for the ROL BH3 and BHA files?

- We also need your help to finish putting together here, read the story here[rol.heavengames.com] and download the files here[www81.zippyshare.com]
- Please spread the news wherever you can and post in the HG ROL forums[rol.heavengames.com] with any questions and projects

[Talekith]

引用自 alincarpetman：

Ryder has created ROL BIG Archiver, which answers the prayers of Rise of Legends fans worldwide as the BIG files are now extractable for editing, modding, importing and exporting back into the game.

- You can view some of the hidden files retrieved from the BIG files here
- You can download the program here[www.petartasev.com], submit errors here[github.com], donate here[www.petartasev.com], and discuss this at the HG Modifications forum here[rol.heavengames.com] with any questions, tests and projects

- Fans of ROL can now mod the game using the info and tools here
- Fans of Rise of Nations and both games can now make a Rise of Nations 2 Total Conversion Mod for ROL using the ROL BIG Archiver, 3DSMax and other programs
- We are giving away copies of ROL to any serious modders and programmers who are interested, please see this thread here[rol.heavengames.com] for the details

- In the near future we need a programmer to create a Blender addon for ROL for editing the 3D models as only 3DSMax can be used and it is expensive for non-students and game industry people. Ryder has created a Blender addon here for Rise of Nations, maybe someone else can make one for the ROL BH3 and BHA files?

- We also need your help to finish putting together here, read the story here[rol.heavengames.com] and download the files here[www81.zippyshare.com]
- Please spread the news wherever you can and post in the HG ROL forums[rol.heavengames.com] with any questions and projects

This all is just so great news. Makes my heart warmen up.

[alincarpetman]

A Rise of Legends User Patch Project has been proposed here[rol.heavengames.com] and here.
This will expand ROL and further any RON2 conversion modding in the game as well which is already possible using the ROL BIG Archiver.
If you're interested please post in the HG forum.

[Bib]

引用自 alincarpetman：

A Rise of Legends User Patch Project has been proposed here[rol.heavengames.com] and here.
This will expand ROL and further any RON2 conversion modding in the game as well which is already possible using the ROL BIG Archiver.
If you're interested please post in the HG forum.

Wish these forums had +rep.

[jstressman]

引用自 Bierb：

引用自 alincarpetman：

A Rise of Legends User Patch Project has been proposed here[rol.heavengames.com] and here.
This will expand ROL and further any RON2 conversion modding in the game as well which is already possible using the ROL BIG Archiver.
If you're interested please post in the HG forum.

Wish these forums had +rep.

I was thinking the same thing. :)

[Talekith]

^I vouch for that.