Is it possible that Egosoft will remake X Rebirth into what we hoped it was?

[Daggaroth]

As an incredible fan of X3 Terrain Conflict and Alban prelude, I would go so far to say that X Rebirth was one of the biggest letdowns of 2013 and an major letdown.

Although, I am thinking to myself that because the game is still in its early life, Is there any chance that they can make a patch or DLC or expansion that takes the graphics and new systems of X Rebirth and makes it more like X3 ? I envision a true successor to X3-TC or X3-AP, and I am hoping that by some miracle that Egosoft listens to its fans and supporters and delivers.

[Sergey Slevin]

Daggaroth původně napsal:

As an incredible fan of X3 Terrain Conflict and Alban prelude, I would go so far to say that X Rebirth was one of the biggest letdowns of 2013 and an major letdown.

Hmmm... Alban Prelude? :D
No way man. Another game engine, another game mechanics, another gameplay.
No any DLC can change it.

[Aliin]

Daggaroth původně napsal:

Although, I am thinking to myself that because the game is still in its early life.

Unfortunetly, that is NO excuse for game's current state. I seem to remember a time when companies had to release their games in a working, mostly bug free state. Those days are long gone. The mighty dollar is more important than anything else.

[mikeb]

Nope this game is rotten at the core.

[Silvermane]

X-Rebirth represents the very best the people at EgoSoft are capable of creating. They lacked the vision, talent, and work ethic to make X4. Epic fail.

Since they also lack courage, I doubt they will ever attempt to create X4. Instead, they will keep patching Rebirth and releasing it on new platforms in a desperate attempt to keep the lights on.

If they had an ounce of integrity, they would give refunds to the many customers dissatisfied with their product and close the doors.

We will have to wait for some other company to make the game we really want.

[TargetLost]

No egosoft won't do that. They designed everything that it's not an X4 and they like their design although they are the only one. But even if they gave in to the presure and listen ..seeing what they released now..they don't have the skills to do it. The had it in the past (just barly enough) but clearly lost every skill they had left in this years. programming is more than code a line. It's code a line that works. And before that design something that works... well they failed in both. So expecting them to recode their own code..it will only end in more disaster.

There are serious attempts to convert the game in the moddign community.
But let's face it..the interest in this game more and more disolves and seeing what is coming next year I wouldn't hope of any such complete game rewrite mod to really get completed.

Desipte.. I don't like egosofts engine. I think it destroys a lot of graphic quality. Sure space viewes are nice ..but ..very unreal overcolored overlighteffected and completly alianated. Best to see at the NPC and especially on yisha in the cockpit and I found no way playing around their shader settings to correct that.
So I not even like the engine (directX9 is past anyway) and then nothing really nothing is left to base a X4 on.

[Starwolf]

Egosoft nailed their coffin shut with this game. I have difficulties to understand how they will survive this. The sadest part IMO is the coders for this game. They have some hard choises to make. Stick around and fix it, which means work more or less for free (of course depending on the economic situation in the company) or leave and hope that the smudge on the CV called X-rebirth won't make it difficult to get a job someplace else.

[pulse112]

@Silvermane

They not only lack the capabilities you very well mention to produce something equally good or even better than the previous X-games. I am afraid it is much worse than that.

They are completely UNABLE to produce a working and PLAYABLE version of THEIR OWN design and implementation of what they thought this game should be. Maybe after another 7 years they might improve things a bit.

Besides that, their complete lack of professionalism reaches to the extend to point the gamers officially (or indirectly through their fun boys - disguised employees) to the modding forums in Egosoft site, in order to fix the unfixable and to turn every gamer into some sort of a programmer to try to modify the saved games to be able to proceed a tiny step further in this hopeless game.

So, the answer to the OP's question is simply NO. Even if they listened, they just cannot. The evidence is clearly in front of us.

[fluffa]

Just No

[Bargle The Infamous]

They are remaking Tomb Raider to run on the xbox one and ps4 however apart from us high end card users having problems the game wasnt as buggy as XR and probably made a lot more sales than XR. It would cost so much to remake XR that it wouldnt be worth Ego's while. Better to chalk this one up to an epic fail and do better with the next game.

[cung]

Daggaroth původně napsal:

As an incredible fan of X3 Terrain Conflict and Alban prelude, I would go so far to say that X Rebirth was one of the biggest letdowns of 2013 and an major letdown.

Although, I am thinking to myself that because the game is still in its early life, Is there any chance that they can make a patch or DLC or expansion that takes the graphics and new systems of X Rebirth and makes it more like X3 ? I envision a true successor to X3-TC or X3-AP, and I am hoping that by some miracle that Egosoft listens to its fans and supporters and delivers.

X3 is trash i hope that wont happen

[Vythica]

I dont think so, even if they upped the graphics, better textures, fixed all the bugs and added in more minigames etc, it is still broken.

Rebirth has 2 problems imo...

1. Bugs

2. Terrible design choices and those that cannot be fixed.

Or do you mean another expansion you have to actually PAY for? So you pay 50$ For a broken game, that sucks anyway and pay an extra what...19.99? 29.99 for DLC? To Fix it? So around 80$ for a broken game that you paid extra for to be fixed...

No....I do not think it will be fixed, and i am certainly not gonna pay for it to be fixed.

Also to edit...

Lets just say Rebirth was not released with -any- bugs....at all, was completely flawless and ran like a dream....You know what? It will still suck...beyond the bugs is terrible gameplay, and as i said above, design choices....those are what needs to be fixed.

[Daniel]

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"Is it possible that Egosoft will remake X Rebirth into what we hoped it was?"
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no, Bern have say the futur of Egosoft are in this game and for her they say it's a big success, and they don't make any more xgame like before, they want absolutly have a console port in her game..., they know they will lost some old customer becuase the quality drop and all but they accept this and think they will find more customer with the consol port implementad to her game,

they say more than this but i am not able to retrieve the interview...

[Saintanik]

If you remember the initial release of X3:Reunion, it was virtually unplayable. It had game breaking bugs that meant the story couldnt be completed, the framerate was so low it was like playing a slide-show, it crashed all the time, and features that they said would be in there, hadnt yet been implemented.

All sounds a bit familiar really. I believe despite all the hate, Egosoft will continue to work at it, just like they did last time.. once they patched X3 up to around where they wanted it (with the help of the modder community), they re-released it as X3 version 2.0..

So, yeah, I think a lot of concerns will be addressed over time, but certain core design decisions such as being limited to flying one ship etc are too fundamental to the game to change.
.. and I still expect we'll see a console version at some point, probably Xbox One.. my guess is that they couldnt get Rebirth to run on Xbox360 hardware at the level required by Microsoft quality control (i.e. minimum 30fps at all times, among other things) and so will try again on gruntier hardware.

[EmKa]

Lets see what time will bring,.. Never was an X title playable in the first half Year...

[Saintanik]

EmKa původně napsal:

Lets see what time will bring,.. Never was an X title playable in the first half Year...

So true! :)