Is it really that bad? (Bad Reviews)

[Doctor_Wiki]

I am looking here on Steam at this game and I see that it has gotten a "Mostly Negative" review status?

The game look phenomenal. But is there really ony 25% of the people out there who really think this is worth it, better, or fun?

I know there has be a series of patches and improvements since release so I wonder if this is why the reviews are so skewed?

Can someone who has actually spent a decent amount of time in the game let me know if I should be looking at this as opposed to X3 Terran Conflict?

[HobbyCathartic]

I believe the main problem was the horrible launch. It was riddled with game breaking bugs, but after a half dozen patches the game is not playable. When checking reviews make sure to see if they are reviewing it post patch.

I'm going to pick it up once it's on sale. I have had a lot of people suggest Terran Conflict, but for me I'd rather play the newest iteration of a game than a previous, but that's just a personal call.

[Bazoola]

X3:Terran Conflict and X3:Albion Prelude are good games. X Rebirth is also a good game that was just released too early. Nearly every bug has been squished and alot of systems have been redesigned. Also X Rebirth is still being supported and improved. There's a new patch and DLC on the way next month and if you register on Egosoft's forums you can play the beta version of the upcoming patch right now. Just make sure that if you pick up Rebirth that your computer meets the recommended specs as the game still isn't optimized very well.

[Swolo]

The problem with X:Rebirth now is not the bugs - as said those have been dealt with. However the problem now is that the game itself is just plain bad. It's literally not fun. That's just opinion of course, but it's opinion that is shared by the majority.

[FearMuss]

Was just a bad launch mostly stuff has been fixed, game is pretty fun if you go in with the right attitude.If you go in with negativity then of course you will be able to pick it to pieces—like any game.

At the moment bar the lack of a few features, I'd say it's superior to X3. I'd still wait to get it on sale though.

[RIK966]

Originally posted by Zyfe:

The problem with X:Rebirth now is not the bugs - as said those have been dealt with. However the problem now is that the game itself is just plain bad. It's literally not fun. That's just opinion of course, but it's opinion that is shared by the majority.

Played for 11 hours on record? you must have played this to the death! not tried 3.0b...i can tell you now the game is not bad and is just as good as XBTF/X2/X3R/X3TC and AP..

[jclosed]

The bad reviews date from more than an year ago. The guy's behind Egosoft has been working hard to improve the game since then, and in my opinion they are succeeding.

The game is no X2 or X3 on steroids. It has an different approch angle, and it takes some time to get used to if you played the older titles before. Once you get "connected" to the new game play, you can see it is an really nice game.

We have seen steady improvements over the months, and an new version update (3.0) is around the corner. A lot of new game play elements will be added in this new version, and the universe will also be expanded with the new DLC.

All in all it indicates to me that the majorety of bugs are dealth with, and the game is expanding (in game play and content) at an steady rate. The developpers now can concentrate on expanding and refining the game play. Next months will be very interesting, because all regular players of Egosoft games know that Egosoft will not stop expanding and tweaking the game. Those guy's are not an game company that dumps an game, take the money, and go for the next moneymaker without updating the game. They will keep working on X Rebirth for an long time.

So - to answer the question. No - the game is not bad at all. The longer you play it, the more you notice this is an very deep game..

Does it has flaws? Yes - just like other games that are here on Steam (I seldom seen an perfect flawless game that did not need any updates after release). What makes the difference for me, is that the developers do not spew out an few updates and leave the game to be after that, but they keep constantly working to improve the game. The game is already good now, and I am certain it will even be better over the coming months and years..

[HoloByteus]

If you can find it for under $20 it's worth it. Yes the launch gave the game a horrible start however bugs remain to this day in 3.0b3 that while they arguably don't break the game as before they still damage gameplay/immersion and frankly I don't see many of them like pathing being fixed anytime soon if ever. You will need to develope selective vision and pretend those ship collisions just didn't happen, they bounce off each other like bumper cars.

If you go in expecting a station building game where it's a challenge to figure out the interdependancies of products/resouces, setup a network, and don't mind working with the traditionally poor Egosoft interfaces you'll be happy.

The stations in this game are absolutely beautiful and alive with great animations like ores being conveyed to a furnace, crystals being cut or robots creating metal plate, each with appropriate sound effects. This genious unfortuantely did not make it to the inside of stations with player statoins not even populated with the immobile and repititoius NPCs characters.

X games in general, have never let your actions have longterm impact. You can damage you're rep but you can never overtake a faction which makes agroing you're invicible neighbor not a good idea. Attacking and then totally destroying them and overtaking their territory however is a gameplay aspect the X games are seroiusly missing out on.

XR is a game, not a simulation, you'll see it in everything from the flight model to the economy where the AI doesn't operate with the same limitations you do, they have the magic spawn stick.

In my opinon this game is designed to run scripted campaigns and that I think is it's greatest strength. The campaigns/DLC's brings your co-pilot, the factions and the game to life and provides the highest level of immersion and I think are worth the price you can get them for now considering there's nothing else available that offers the gameplay features XR does.

[Schwengelbengel]

THAT bad? not anymore, and it will get even better. actually, i would rate it a 6,5/10, and it has the potential to become a 8/10 with the december-update. the game is far away from being perfect, but there are no alternative games actually, SC and elite will need time (and are not really comparable), and x3 looks just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ today.

story: nothing really exciting, and some missions are annoying as ♥♥♥♥, the big battles are nice though. overall okay.

combat: relatively few weapons, but fluid and nice looking. also fine.

immersion: great designed ships, great designed stations, believable and atmospheric, but some things annoy here also. (for example police sirens in space)

trade: meh at best, works usually, but has many little problems, especially the slow pacing

graphics/sound: visuals are the best for a space sim actually, sounds are mostly okay, while some are totally misplaced

tech/performance: after many, many patches, crashs are rare and performance is okay

mods: already much available, and we will (would) see tons if egosoft releases some more tools.

content/features: okay at best, needs more (and will get more)

[Hedonisious]

X3 AP is a well done game that had lots of updates and amazing modding support that makes the game incredible.
If you want to actually pilot many different ships, including big capital ships. If you want those ships to look totally different, then you're only option is to buy X3 Albion Prelude.

You will not be able to do that in Rebirth.

Rebirth is still work in progress. As such many hardcore modders from previous games are still waiting. Egosoft hasn't released the promised modding tools yet, as the game is patched very often.

Best thing to do is watch some videos.

My own suggestion: If you're in a financial position where you can't waste 20€/$ without feeling pain for an extended period, you should go with X3:AP. In that case grab the total conversion mod for it, you're gonna love it.

[vackillers]

It was terrible at launch, its quite awesome now, yes not perfect especially in the performance area which it has got a heck of a lot better in that department but still so far off where it should be, the gameplay as a whole I haven't run into any problems at all playing the game since 2.0 release... No game breaking bugs, not bugs to report at all really for me personally... but the game was an absolute disaster at launch and will never fully recover from that bad press as it filtered to just about every website there is not just on the steam reviews.

[Slick]

It's a very boring game....

Biggest Issues that make it bad

1) Landing on stations the NPC dudes you interact with are ALWAYS in the same spot, either sitting or standing. It's completely stupid.
2) The jumping from place to place is very bad.
3) You are always in the same ship and can't upgrade it past a certain level = boring.
4) Voice acting is Terrible to Bad at best. With most characters being jerks.

No matter what they try to fix in this game, unless they allow you to fly other ships, it's the same bad game with little reason to play or progress.

[Swolo]

Originally posted by RIK966:

Originally posted by Zyfe:

The problem with X:Rebirth now is not the bugs - as said those have been dealt with. However the problem now is that the game itself is just plain bad. It's literally not fun. That's just opinion of course, but it's opinion that is shared by the majority.

Played for 11 hours on record? you must have played this to the death! not tried 3.0b...i can tell you now the game is not bad and is just as good as XBTF/X2/X3R/X3TC and AP..

Uh, I'm pretty sure 11 hours is enough to realize that the gameplay is BAD. It does take 100+ hours on record to come to the conclusion that the game is boring. Whatever made you think that, I don't know. I've also read up on v3.0 and all of the wonderful new "featuers" they are adding - yet still they are adding very little to actual gameplay other than things that are basically MANDATORY for any type of space trading/empire building(lol not in this game)/space combat sim these days.

The game is boring and lackluster, Egosoft needs to move on instead of trying to make this work.

[AnthonyNVII]

Personally I love this game. As said before It was launched too early and people dont approach it with the right attitude because of that. as of now the bugs (id say 95% of them) have been dealt with. There will always be little things here and there but overall i love this game and enjoy it a lot. a majority of the negative reviews i have found were related to the bad launch and whatnot. As said by others, if you dont want to spend a lot of money, simply wait for a sale, but in my opinion as of now the game is worth it and i look forward to the next updates:)

Hope this helps in your decision

[Nats]

Yes it is that bad. Get Elite Dangerous instead.

[jclosed]

Originally posted by Nats:

Yes it is that bad. Get Elite Dangerous instead.

Said by someone that not even owns the game. Hmm.. and on top of that trying to advertise other games here. Smells suspiciously much like someone has an bit of an hidden "agenda" here, or something? Nah... can't be, no?

Well - all joking aside...

My advise? Listen only to people that own the game, do not advertise for other games, and have played the game long enough (minimal 30+ hours), and recent enough (minimal version 2.5) to really have been delving deep enough in the game and game mechanics to give an balanced opinion.

Just my 2 cents...