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Zephyr8965 Dec 6, 2015 @ 5:31pm
*SOLVED* Cards blurry on AMD Graphics
I really love the idea of playing tabletop simulator, but I was worried I might have some issues on my laptop (as many new games have issues on laptops). So, I tried it out on a friend's steam account and found that cards are horribly blurry. Any assistance with this would be greatly appreciated.

I learned that some mods just have their cards generated improperly, leading the blurry content that isn't the fault of the game. So, I grabbed the image files from the tanto cuore pdf manuals which are in decent resolution and tried loading them into the game from my hard drive, only to find that, while I can view the cards just fine in windows photo viewer, TTS has them so blurry I can't read them.

I've tried verifying, uninstalling/reinstalling, turning off antivirus, turning up every individual setting in amd catalyst control, setting TTS to ultra graphics, and I've even recreated the jpg's for the deck in various resolutions ranging from 2048x2048 to 4096x4096. None of this makes any difference. I've made sure to turn off caching of mod files to ensure I'm seeing current information every time I load up the files, but it looks exactly the same every time. I actually created various resolutions of the deck of cards and imported them all as separate decks to get a side by side view and all the various versions look exactly the same in TTS. Horribly blurred and unreadable.

Also, for the record, I do have copies of Tanto Cuore, but I have a pretty crappy scanner/printer combo, so the images are from the pdf's downloaded from their website, pulled out using adobe reader. Also, the "load full textures" option was checked (or however it was worded). I tried loading up the built in card bots game and those cards were readable, but still very blurry.

Hardware specs in case they're necessary:

Model: Acer Aspire V5-552-x814
Processor: Amd Quad Core 2.5 Ghz (A10-5757M)
Ram: 6 GB Ddr3
Graphics card: AMD Radeon HD 8650G (512 MG Graphic memory + shared)

Thanks in advance for any advice. I've spent hours googling and I've tried every piece of advice I could find, but nothing seems to help. D:
Last edited by Zephyr8965; Dec 23, 2015 @ 11:26am
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Zephyr8965 Dec 6, 2015 @ 5:34pm 
Oh, and one other note, in case it helps:

I used the deck builder on Nexus mods to create the jpg. I checked the individual card images and the combined jpg in windows photo viewer. In both cases, the images had about the same quality (slightly pixellated if zoomed in, but not bad).
SaltyO Dec 7, 2015 @ 1:33am 
Just a thought: How are you hosting the image files?
Many file hosting services will compress images, especially really high quality ones, and seems to mess with TTS image quality. I moved my images to dropbox and eliminated a blur problem I was having.

Try hosting an image on a dropbox account and directly linking to that file, making sure you are using the download link (it's the image file but the url will end with =?dl or something like that). I bet that will fix it.

Oh, also make sure they are JPG. Other images formats have metadata/channels that TTS might not necessarily like as much. I have no proof of this, just read it somewhere.
Last edited by SaltyO; Dec 7, 2015 @ 1:34am
spineduke Dec 7, 2015 @ 6:38am 
It sounds like you have your GPU set on "performance" instead of "quality". You should be able to change it from your graphic card properties.
Zephyr8965 Dec 7, 2015 @ 8:26am 
I'm running the images off of my own hard drive, so there is no image hosting going on. I've gone through every individual GPU setting and set them all to the highest quality setting (and various combinations of settings in between).
SaltyO Dec 7, 2015 @ 12:31pm 
Hmm... Yeah... Tell Kimiko about that. This might be a bug that survived the reversion from their last patch. I don't know what it could be.
chain reaction Dec 7, 2015 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by spineDuke:
It sounds like you have your GPU set on "performance" instead of "quality". You should be able to change it from your graphic card properties.
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I did this a few days ago and it solved blurry cards.

Give it a try.
Zephyr8965 Dec 8, 2015 @ 9:37am 
It is set to quality. I went through EVERY option in my GPU and set everything to the highest quality settings. When that didn't work, I went through various combinations of settings in between. :(
Kimiko Dec 8, 2015 @ 11:33am 
Hey - have you tried updating your graphics card?

Also in the catalyst, check to see if your anisotropic filtering is set to highest and other.

Not sure why else you should be having this problem, especially if you have it set to quality.
Marquise* Dec 8, 2015 @ 12:19pm 
I saw a tread with similiar theme that had been solved and... http://steamcommunity.com/app/286160/discussions/0/492379439680362301/
I just hope it applies to you. Do the UFO test in case to be sure!
Zephyr8965 Dec 8, 2015 @ 12:52pm 
Graphics driver is up to date, all individual settings in catalyst control maxed out. Admittedly, my computer lagged down a little in TTS with those settings, but the cards still came through blurry as hell. I'll list the settings below. As for the UFO thing, it doesn't seem to be the same issue as my blurring happens even if I just hold alt and let the screen sit on a card for a while (I waited couple minutes to see if the textures would slowly load or something, but nothing).

Anti-Aliasing Mode: Override Application Settings (also tried use application settings)
Anti-Aliasing Samples: 8xEQ
Filter: Standard (other option is edge-detect, I tried that previously with no change)
Anti-Aliasing Method: Supersampling
Morphological Filtering: Off (tried on, but on change)
Anisotropic Filltering Mode: Override Application Settings
Anisotropic Filtering Level: 16x
Texture Filtering Quality: High Quality
Surface Fromat Optimization: Off
Wait for Vertical Refresh: Always Off (tried on, as well, no change)
OPenGL Triple Buffering: Off (tried on, as well, no change)
Tesellation Mode: Override (also tried use application and AMD optimized)
Maximum Tessellation Level: 64x
Zephyr8965 Dec 8, 2015 @ 12:54pm 
By the way, thank you everyone who is trying to help me out here. If I had the money to risk this not working out, I would totally say screw it and just buy it with the hope of it working later, but my budget doesn't really allow me to take risks with game buying. :(

I honestly get most of my games from places like humble bundle where I can spend ~$5 to get a bunch of games to entertain me for a while.
Last edited by Zephyr8965; Dec 8, 2015 @ 12:55pm
SaltyO Dec 8, 2015 @ 3:39pm 
This game has been the best investment I've made on Steam. Hope you can get it working soon.
Marquise* Dec 8, 2015 @ 11:06pm 
Seems to be as mysterious as where did the glow go out of all of my Fallout Nuka Cola bottles in my Fallout games!

Oh and sorry, I would had liked you around my table. :3
Kimiko Dec 9, 2015 @ 9:49am 
You probably did this already, but just to verify:

1. You clicked on "Gaming Performance", then "Standard 3D Settings" and dragged the slider all the way to quality and saved it.

2. You also clicked on "Mipmapping" and dragged the slider all the way to quality and saved it.

3. By any chance are you using RadeonPRO?

I don't see any other reason why you should have blurry cards if both of those are set. Can you send me a couple of the images you're having problems with? If you don't want to upload them, you can email them to berserkgames@gmail.com. Just reference this thread.

Thanks
Zephyr8965 Dec 10, 2015 @ 8:55pm 
I don't have access to the game at the moment (need a friend's steam account as I don't actually own it yet), so I can't get you the screen shots just yet.

As for the rest, though, I don't have a "mipmapping" option in my graphics options. It's just the AMD Catalyst Control Center options, not Radeon PRO. I'm actually not sure what Radeon PRO is. If you think it's something that might help, I could look into that.

Cataylst Control Center doesn't have sliders (not sure if this correction is important, but I'm mentioning just in case), but I did change the "Texture Filtering Quality" to the "High Quality" setting as well as maxing out all of the other individual settings in the "3d Appliction Settings" tab of Catalyst, as per my post above.
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