AI?!

[Ebonrook]

It's a real shame that you're going to use AI for this game. You're clearly a good artist, so I don't see why you would do that.

If you decide to not use the AI art I will still buy the game, but I can't justify the purchase if it supports AI art. Sorry.

Edit and Update:
Chowbie decided not to use AI art and it shows in how good it all looks, and yes I bought the game. I think it was worth it.

[Stripey]

Originally posted by Ebonrook:

It's a real shame that you're going to use AI for this game. You're clearly a good artist, so I don't see why you would do that.

If you decide to not use the AI art I will still buy the game, but I can't justify the purchase if it supports AI art. Sorry.

tbf it seems to only be for the item pictures in the backpack?

[yumri]

Originally posted by Stripey:

Originally posted by Ebonrook:

It's a real shame that you're going to use AI for this game. You're clearly a good artist, so I don't see why you would do that.

If you decide to not use the AI art I will still buy the game, but I can't justify the purchase if it supports AI art. Sorry.

tbf it seems to only be for the item pictures in the backpack?

That's a good thing as most just do not care that much about how the items in the inventory look. Still txt2img and im2img AI models can make a lot of noticeable image errors that just using the generic default assets would prevent.

[RomanGTR]

Whats wrong with using AI art? Stop being like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, accept new world, or go in caves then. Why people hate everything that resambles electr... music, cars arts, are u really want to live in caves? If so stop using smartphones, PC and etc.

[box3rtwin]

I'd rather live in a cave than a hollow world of derivative, stolen, unoriginal art.

[Stripey]

The store page actually doesn't mention AI assets anymore. Since Valve requires AI assets to be disclosed, this would imply they decided to make the assets themselves instead.

[yumri]

Originally posted by Stripey:

The store page actually doesn't mention AI assets anymore. Since Valve requires AI assets to be disclosed, this would imply they decided to make the assets themselves instead.

From this much backlash it seems they found the money to pay the artist to draw them all. Really I do not get it as most games just use already made assets. Be them from an asset store or images they already paid for for a before game. So for most games it is a generic image which leads back to the comment of box3rtwin of "unoriginal art" welcome to recognizable images in games. Would you rather of some random symbols in each game you play that mean the same thing as in every other game you play but with a entirely new symbol.
Gamers like images they know but dislike images they do not know when going through their inventory so they do not have to go through everything to find that 1 item they are looking for.

[box3rtwin]

I'd be perfectly okay with them reusing assets from wedding witch and I feel like even a casual artist should be able to create icons that convey their purpose and identity without taking a ton of time or money. I just feel like the more people use AI the more people become dismissive of it and comfortable with using it more and for bigger things until 5 years from now it's just an assembly line of cookie cutter shovelware games that aren't worth buying or even playing. The streets will be lined with starved digital artists

[yumri]

Originally posted by box3rtwin:

I'd be perfectly okay with them reusing assets from wedding witch and I feel like even a casual artist should be able to create icons that convey their purpose and identity without taking a ton of time or money. I just feel like the more people use AI the more people become dismissive of it and comfortable with using it more and for bigger things until 5 years from now it's just an assembly line of cookie cutter shovelware games that aren't worth buying or even playing. The streets will be lined with starved digital artists :raksasicry:

You kind of contradict yourself in your comment. Artists do not get paid for use of their art they get paid to draw then the majority of the time what they draw is owned by the company. So the artist makes nothing over how many times it is used as they do not own the image they drew after being paid to draw it.
Without a steady stream on contracts or being hired by a company the part of "The streets will be lined with starved digital artists" is kind of true either that are their art turns into a hobby instead of a job with a job doing something that pays the bills. The majority of artists are in the 2nd part. Art is a hobby they might or might not get paid for not a job that can pay the bills.

Now onto the "cookie cutter shovelware games" well how would it be any different from using the unity store assets, RPG Maker default and/or DLC assets, and/or any other asset store assets without having anything unique drawn by an artist?
As shovelware already exists in bulkl on steam i do not see how games that are just shovelware will be any different with AI images.

Now am i for artists getting paid? Yes and i do pay some of them that i like their art too but even then 1 of them had to go back to get a normal job to pay the bills even with fanbox subscription money. So even when the artist is paid with monthly income from consumers they might not make enough to pay rent, utilities and food. So it isn't AI image generation that is hurting the artists as much as people just not paying for their art and/or the cost of living going up.

[Yonathancity]

But it's just the equipment and weapon only which use AI. The girl characters are artist's hardwork. You haven't seen a games which entirely use AI for everything.

[MrSnowKitten]

Wait before OP discovers what a kitbashing is. Machine learning for art is just an automated kitbashing tool, nothing else.

[Shuck]

If they don't do the art, they don't deserve the money, simple as

[AvidWriter]

You expect quality for ♥♥♥♥-tier simp bait?

[Stripey]

Originally posted by Farmvo:

If they don't do the art, they don't deserve the money, simple as

They removed the AI disclaimer, implying they aren't using AI anymore.

[Biscuits]

Actually yeah, AI art is simply dreadful. I've long observed and researched this topic. I'm not sure why but it's strange that in the last year AI art has become extremely generic. So many games that don't admit they use it get caught out... if AI was so good it wouldn't be obvious. We simply would never know.

As a dev myself it just makes no sense to me. Crafting an original art style is crucial. Look at games like Hades, that has a bunch of clones now, none of them will have the success Hades has achieved. What helps? Originality. Focusing on creating a well-crafted, high quality game.

Whenever I see AI art in a game (none of the games I play have it, but I browse Steam often) I just get a feeling they haven't really tried. They've cut corners. They think so little of their own unique art direction they've otherwise achieved for their endevour that they're willing to, essentially, photocopy some other devs work.

I dunno. The way I see game development is... would you rather be the one making Hades, or making a clone of Hades?

To paraphrase something my wife just said... why should I be bothered playing something you couldn't be bothered making?

[Stripey]

Originally posted by Biscuits:

Actually yeah, AI art is simply dreadful. I've long observed and researched this topic. I'm not sure why but it's strange that in the last year AI art has become extremely generic. So many games that don't admit they use it get caught out... if AI was so good it wouldn't be obvious. We simply would never know.

As a dev myself it just makes no sense to me. Crafting an original art style is crucial. Look at games like Hades, that has a bunch of clones now, none of them will have the success Hades has achieved. What helps? Originality. Focusing on creating a well-crafted, high quality game.

Whenever I see AI art in a game (none of the games I play have it, but I browse Steam often) I just get a feeling they haven't really tried. They've cut corners. They think so little of their own unique art direction they've otherwise achieved for their endevour that they're willing to, essentially, photocopy some other devs work.

I dunno. The way I see game development is... would you rather be the one making Hades, or making a clone of Hades?

To paraphrase something my wife just said... why should I be bothered playing something you couldn't be bothered making?

True but it's worth noting that the store page had an AI disclaimer, and now doesn't. Since Valve requires AI usage like that to be disclosed it seems they backed out of using AI (hopefully).