What about battle of the five armies?

[hinti21]

What the ♥♥♥♥?! Where is it??

[RiptideRyder]

I read somewhere that they aren't going to make one

[hinti21]

♥♥♥♥

[CrumbleCat]

I dunno why people aren't getting mad at this. It's freaking crazy to just abandon the final part of the series. Who kind of developer does that? Was it too hard, because of all the battle scenes? Or are they busy milking the avengers movies now? What a ridiculous company.

[hinti21]

Never buying any lego-game again.

[themightysurt]

Well someone said that they are taking this matter to court but im not sure if thats real. They promised a full game but didnt go threw. Idk whos taking who to court though

[Lithrun]

Originally posted by MasterCrumble:

I dunno why people aren't getting mad at this. It's freaking crazy to just abandon the final part of the series. Who kind of developer does that? Was it too hard, because of all the battle scenes? Or are they busy milking the avengers movies now? What a ridiculous company.

Well luckely someone created a petition about the DLC. They are at 2000 signatures atm. If you would like to vote : https://www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-lego-release-lego-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-dlc

[billnopus]

TT has become a cash grabbing entity. If it can't have a season pass slapped on, or something that costs someone an arm and a leg to fully play like dimensions (seriously, has anyone forked out the hundreds of dollars it takes to buy the kit and all the character packs for this) they are no longer interested. There is no way that they are going to do a dlc when they can rake in more on a new titile. They're not the only greedy dev out there right now, but imo they are the poster child for it.

I agree, though, it would be nice to have a conclusion to the story. It would also be nice; however, to have TT actually support their products (bugs/glitches that were never fixed ie Lord of the Rings etc), actually put steam achievements on the games that had achievements/trophies on Xbox and PS, and not rush out games that don't randomly crash. Not going to hold my breath on any of it.

[CrumbleCat]

Yeah they definitely suck at supporting games after launch. How about mouse support and online co-op? They could have put that in their games 10 years ago, but nooo... that's too much effort.

[BushwalkerSP]

Firstly don't blame TT but WB for money grabbing. TT is only a SW development company owned by WB. It looks like a licencing issue between WB and MGM, who owns The Hobbit rights. Not only it affected the release of the third instalment of this game, but none of the characters from The Hobbit appears in the Lego Dimensions game with exceptions of Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas and some other characters like Frodo, Balrog, Saruman, Sauron as NPCs (they all appear in both stories, some were added by the movie).

[billnopus]

Originally posted by BushwalkerSP:

Firstly don't blame TT but WB for money grabbing. TT is only a SW development company owned by WB. It looks like a licencing issue between WB and MGM, who owns The Hobbit rights. Not only it affected the release of the third instalment of this game, but none of the characters from The Hobbit appears in the Lego Dimensions game with exceptions of Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas and some other characters like Frodo, Balrog, Saruman, Sauron as NPCs (they all appear in both stories, some were added by the movie).

Have you seen lego dimensions???? Not WB, but TT. $100 for the initial kit, $15 a pop for character ad ons. It will require multiple add ons to do the entire game. All in all will total over $300 FOR ONE GAME. That is the definition of money grabbing. What they charged for the season pass for Batman 3 was a joke as well. Like I said, they aren't the only ones to do it, but trying to absolve them of any blame is utterly absurd.

[kermit the croak]

i really enjoy this game however controls arent too good on keyboard

[BushwalkerSP]

Originally posted by billnopus:

Originally posted by BushwalkerSP:

Firstly don't blame TT but WB for money grabbing. TT is only a SW development company owned by WB. It looks like a licencing issue between WB and MGM, who owns The Hobbit rights. Not only it affected the release of the third instalment of this game, but none of the characters from The Hobbit appears in the Lego Dimensions game with exceptions of Gandalf, Gollum, Legolas and some other characters like Frodo, Balrog, Saruman, Sauron as NPCs (they all appear in both stories, some were added by the movie).

Have you seen lego dimensions???? Not WB, but TT. $100 for the initial kit, $15 a pop for character ad ons. It will require multiple add ons to do the entire game. All in all will total over $300 FOR ONE GAME. That is the definition of money grabbing. What they charged for the season pass for Batman 3 was a joke as well. Like I said, they aren't the only ones to do it, but trying to absolve them of any blame is utterly absurd.

Please, get a life! All pricing, marketing decisions are made by WB not TT. How old are you? 12? Not only you pay for the game but also for a Lego set and minifigurines. Sets and minifigurines are sold by Lego not TT. Geez people get real.

[billnopus]

Originally posted by BushwalkerSP:

Originally posted by billnopus:

Have you seen lego dimensions???? Not WB, but TT. $100 for the initial kit, $15 a pop for character ad ons. It will require multiple add ons to do the entire game. All in all will total over $300 FOR ONE GAME. That is the definition of money grabbing. What they charged for the season pass for Batman 3 was a joke as well. Like I said, they aren't the only ones to do it, but trying to absolve them of any blame is utterly absurd.

Please, get a life! All pricing, marketing decisions are made by WB not TT. How old are you? 12? Not only you pay for the game but also for a Lego set and minifigurines. Sets and minifigurines are sold by Lego not TT. Geez people get real.

I'll try and be nice:
1) TT is a subsidiary of Time Warner, Inc, which owns WB. This might sound like semantics, but it's a very important distinction. Especially considering that TT goes out of their way in interviews to tell people that they have the autonomy to make their own decisions and are not dictated by Time Warner Inc in what they do. So, are you telling us that they lie in their interviews?
2) Judging from the fact that all of your posts have to do with Lego, you are either the premier Lego Fanboy, or you work for TWI, TT, or Lego.
3) So what your telling us is that the figurines and lego set, if it wouldn't have a game attatched to it, would sell for a couple of hundred dollars. Stop by a store and tell me which sets by lego sell for that much. Or is the game so massive that it's a $100 game. If that's the case, please don't tell bethesda, because for what FO 4 will be, they'll charge $250.
4) Read the credits for any lego game. Mysteriously there are marketing credits for TT. But how is that possible? Obviously they wouldn't need an entire marketing department to execute what WB or TWI is telling them to do.
5) Get a life? Didn't attack you personally, but if you want me too, I will. I was in Game stop 3 weeks ago and watched a kid cry because his mom told him that they couldn't afford to buy him the Lego Dimesions. Since the whole thing, when said and done with all the figurine packs, will cost the same as a console. . . .for one game, go figure. It has kid driven characters in it like scooby doo to drive the children even more. So you either work for, or are defending a company that is going to make a lot of kids upset (really great when you attatch yourself to a kid driven company) and is creating an economics discriminatory game. It's hard enough for some families to scrape together money for console games, let alone this cash cow.
6) Anything that you are a willing partner in makes you equally as culpable. You can't stand up in court and say 'It wasn't my idea your honor" and expect to get off scott free. Watch the announcements and interviews that TT people gave when announcing dimensions. They are relishing what they have done. If this was an rpg, that was aimed at adults, then I would be applauding them for that because it is a cool idea. It's being shoved on parents; however, with kid driven characters, so no, not cool.
7) As for the insult of my age, I haven't been 12 in decades. How old are you that you justify profits at the exploitation of children? Because that's what this boils down to. When the cigarette companies show adds with 'adults' that look like they are teens, that is exploitation. Am I saying that TWI, WB, or TT are doing anything illegal. No, definitely not. The ethics of it; however, can be seriously argued.
8) Speaking of ethics: are you going to tell me that WB or TWI told TT on Batman 3 to sell a game for full price and only make half of the achievements/trophies available? Oh, you want them all, you have to buy the season pass for that, instead of just making the season pass ach/tro stand alone. Let me guess, WB tells TT how to set up their game mechanics as well, right?

Now, with all of this said, I wasn't attacking you in any of the previous posts. The fact is, I WILL buy the next Lego Marvel game that comes out and probably all of the subsequent ones knowing full well they will crash randomly and never be patched (Lord of the Rings still has potential game breaking crashes in it). I just refuse to participate in rampant cash grabs. Won't be buying dimensions, and will never buy a season pass at full price again without there being more content in it. And once again, TT isn't the only one (Ubisoft and EA come very quickly to mind), but I don't see how that absolves them.

Is that a good response for a 12 year old?

[BushwalkerSP]

We'll have to agree to disagree. I will never believe that TT has marketing and pricing autonomy. They might have designing and development autonomy but definitely not pricing. I'm sure WBIE is setting them revenue targets like any other multinational. The only reason TT joined WBIE is because of the WB presence around in the world market so that TT doesn't need to build a huge marketing and selling department themselves. BTW, I never said that WBIE is involved in the game mechanics and other design decisions, but I’m sure they must be influencing some of the decisions like why would Lego Harry Potter story line follow the movies and not the books? If something is owned by WB why would you go the other way and spend money on royalties when you can get something cheaper in your house?
I wasn’t defending the price only pointing out that beside royalties you need pay bigger chunk of money to Lego for the set and the minifigurines. Is it overpriced? Probably, but people will decide whether or not they want to buy it. Because of mobile games people nowadays expect game prices to be very low or even free before they decide to buy it. It’s definitely more expensive to design games in UK than perhaps in China and I’m surprised that WBIE hasn’t decided yet to relocate TT there, which means that people like you who are constantly whining about the prices might just force WBIE to do it.
You might not be a 12 years old but you're not showing enough maturity for a grown up either.

[billnopus]

Originally posted by BushwalkerSP:

We'll have to agree to disagree. I will never believe that TT has marketing and pricing autonomy. They might have designing and development autonomy but definitely not pricing. I'm sure WBIE is setting them revenue targets like any other multinational. The only reason TT joined WBIE is because of the WB presence around in the world market so that TT doesn't need to build a huge marketing and selling department themselves. BTW, I never said that WBIE is involved in the game mechanics and other design decisions, but I’m sure they must be influencing some of the decisions like why would Lego Harry Potter story line follow the movies and not the books? If something is owned by WB why would you go the other way and spend money on royalties when you can get something cheaper in your house?
I wasn’t defending the price only pointing out that beside royalties you need pay bigger chunk of money to Lego for the set and the minifigurines. Is it overpriced? Probably, but people will decide whether or not they want to buy it. Because of mobile games people nowadays expect game prices to be very low or even free before they decide to buy it. It’s definitely more expensive to design games in UK than perhaps in China and I’m surprised that WBIE hasn’t decided yet to relocate TT there, which means that people like you who are constantly whining about the prices might just force WBIE to do it.
You might not be a 12 years old but you're not showing enough maturity for a grown up either.

I will agree to disagree with you. I do agree that TWI has influence on TT; parent companies always do. But everything starts with TT. TWI doesn't go to TT and say make a Harry Potter game, TT goes to TWI and says we are going to make a HP. I don't for one moment believe that everyone at TT are mere puppets.
As for the continued immaturity attack: mature people don't tell people to get a life and say they're 12 years old when they have a different opinion than theirs. 'Mature' adults have opinions; this is mine. But since you want to judge me; I'll reciprocate.
You say I'm 'whining' about the price of a $200+ dollar SINGLE GAME. I guess that makes you an elitist that doesn't care about making games that are accessible to anyone other than upper middle class families that can afford it. Do I believe you are an elitist? No. Do you like being called an elitist? Then don't call people immature for having a different opinion than yours. (btw Lego molds it's porducts in Denmark, Czech republic, and Mexico BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER)
It is a major sticking point with me when companies make exploitive cash grabbing moves and then try and defend it. Games and gaming systems are already expensive enough without compainies trying to discover what the breaking point is. Next gen engines are expensive, so when a dev charges $60 for a game, it's understandable. A few hundred dollars is not.
I truly hope that you are just the biggest fan of Lego games because I would at least respect you ardently defending games you love. (I don't however repsect the name calling and aspersions, though) However; if you work for TWI WB or TT in any way shape or form, is this what they stand for: name calling when someone callenges them?
Look, I never intended for this to be one of those annoying 'oh yeah well. . . .' posts, and have tried to prevent it from being a flame war. If you want to agree to disagree so be it. I wish you all the best, just do me a favor in the future: if someone disagrees with you, don't attack their maturity or call them names. We could have had a purely intellectual discussion on capitalism, pricing, and the direction that gaming companies are taking if you wanted too. Obviously didn't turn out that way though.
Peace.