Prestige/Image

[ptmadman12]

Prestige as its report is named in game or Image as most seem to call it is abit of a dark abyss for me right now. A few questions and a few things I believe is true, correct me where I go wrong or am abit off.

Having a higher image rating will sell more cars. Higher image rating meaning your seen as a better car manufacturer so consumers will buy more of your cars seeing them as higher quality. So if you were the leader in the luxury rating, you would sell more of the same car than someone with the lowest luxury rating? Performance would relate to sportier cars. With image and quality being a more general rating affecting all, no?

Magazine reviews affect your image rating, so if you get mainly bad reviews you'll see a drop in image. This would explain why I see my image dropping, my cars only focus on their primary and secondary attributes leaving everything else on 0. Is this effect based on each part of the review so you'll get a drop in luxury prestige if your car reviews badly in "in the insides" part and a drop in image rating if your car gets a bad review from the "conclusion" part? Still find it funny when I see something like my 1904 sedan with 47/57+ mpg reviewed as "awful fuel millage" yet my 1924 sports car "gets an impressive 14 mpg in city and 18 mpg highway", yeah I've worked out its based on the overall car rating values rather than acutal vehicle specs at least from my perspective.

Racing affects image, racing and performance ratings. Do you get a base boost in these values just by racing then an increased boost for winning? Would the boost be based on individual race performances like winning races or overall championship performance such as winning championships?

Marketting your brand increases your image rating (no idea about this one but its what I would assume). So the more you put into brand marketting the more of a boost you get to your image rating.

Any other ways of increasing or managing your image?

I understand that the fun should be in finding it out for myself but as I hope I have been able to emit I do have my own conlcusions on how this all works. Just looking for another perspective.

[Eric.B]

Originally posted by ptmadman12:

Magazine reviews affect your image rating, so if you get mainly bad reviews you'll see a drop in image. This would explain why I see my image dropping, my cars only focus on their primary and secondary attributes leaving everything else on 0. Is this effect based on each part of the review so you'll get a drop in luxury prestige if your car reviews badly in "in the insides" part and a drop in image rating if your car gets a bad review from the "conclusion" part?

The magazine reviews do not effect the image as directly as you make it out. The actual ratings of your vehicles do compared to your actual image. So if your image rating is 50 in luxury, and all the cars you made in the last 10 years have an luxury are 10s, your image will go down. There is a small bonus to having better ratings than your peers in the segment. (Which is where reviews come from) but it is not as overall import as your actual ratings them selves.

Still find it funny when I see something like my 1904 sedan with 47/57+ mpg reviewed as "awful fuel millage" yet my 1924 sports car "gets an impressive 14 mpg in city and 18 mpg highway",

This is because it's compared to peers of that vehicle type. 47mpg is probably not impressive compared to other sedans. But 14mpg compared to other sports cars in the game is probably impressive.

In 1.18, the AI is using much larger engines, so you're not going to have to worry about that anymore. Although 14mpg will still probably be impressive for a sports car...

yeah I've worked out its based on the overall car rating values rather than acutal vehicle specs at least from my perspective.

Incorrect, fuel reviews are generated from the specific mpg of the vehicle and compared to other vehicles for sale in that category of vehicles.

Racing affects image, racing and performance ratings. Do you get a base boost in these values just by racing then an increased boost for winning? Would the boost be based on individual race performances like winning races or overall championship performance such as winning championships?

There are multiple tiers, you get it for budget, for winning, and for championships. Multiplied by popularity of the series.

Marketting your brand increases your image rating (no idea about this one but its what I would assume). So the more you put into brand marketting the more of a boost you get to your image rating.

Yes

Any other ways of increasing or managing your image?

Build higher rated cars than your image rating is probably the fastest way to do it. But at a certain level you will have to rely on these little things or build super expensive vehicles all the time. :)

[ptmadman12]

So if your image rating is 50 in luxury, and all the cars you made in the last 10 years have an luxury are 10s, your image will go down.

Are image rating and quality rating affected by a number of actual ratings from your cars? So for example is image rating just based on the cars overall rating or a number of ratings? Quality rating probably manufacturing requirement I guess?

This is because it's compared to peers of that vehicle type. 47mpg is probably not impressive compared to other sedans. But 14mpg compared to other sports cars in the game is probably impressive.

Incorrect, fuel reviews are generated from the specific mpg of the vehicle and compared to other vehicles for sale in that category of vehicles.

Having quite literally gone through all the companies models of sedan through the model comparison page in the magazine, I did not find one with a higher mpg. Closest was one at 43 I believe overall mpg in comparison to my 52 overall mpg. The rest were mainly in the teens with a few in the high 20's low 30's. I had a look in the save game file and found the closest being 3 models at 39/48 which I'd assume would be around 43 overall mpg.

There are multiple tiers, you get it for budget, for winning, and for championships. Multiplied by popularity of the series.

Is there anything for points and final position alone when not winning or just based on budget, explicitly winning races and explicitly winning championships?

Yes

Yay, got one right at least. Do appreciate the reply, I have a feeling I'm single handedly slowing your progress on 1.18 down by this point with all my posts.

[freeman2344]

How old is that Sedan that is being reviewed? Even though 47/57 mpg is an awesome value, the fuel rating will decrease over time - as do all values - and as far as I know, it's the rating that actually decides the "wording" of the reviews. For the same reason, cars with respectable 0-60 times also become "slow" after a few years.

[ptmadman12]

Originally posted by freeman2344:

How old is that Sedan that is being reviewed? Even though 47/57 mpg is an awesome value, the fuel rating will decrease over time - as do all values - and as far as I know, it's the rating that actually decides the "wording" of the reviews. For the same reason, cars with respectable 0-60 times also become "slow" after a few years.

That is how I understand it. 1904 sedan in 1920's so yeah if the review goes by fuel rating it would explain it. However, if you read eric's reply on that matter it says that those reviews are based on the mpg values not the fuel rating which would mean the review should be singing its praises if that was the case.

[freeman2344]

Yeah, I remember Eric mentioning this earlier and I agree that this SHOULD be the case - since the fuel rating is still great. Heck, it would be great even today. However, that's not how it currently works. I'm not sure Eric intends for it to work that way, so it might well be a glitch or mistake.

[Eric.B]

Sounds like a bug to me, I'll look deeper into it when I revise the fuel ratings for 1.18