Why is everyone so satisfied with the game?

[Slin]

Am I the only one who is pretty unhappy with this game because of the low content?
And im not talking about the low quantity of levels, heroes and enemies... But for example about the mechanics of tower upgrades.
In previous parts we got a 2-way-upgrade system for towers, where you could choose the way of tower improvement in this or that dierection. Unfortunately thats not inside the game, and i dont understand why. It was a solid and interesting mechanic, whats the reason for downgrading this? I know, it was allready not implemented in KR4, but at least we had 3 kinds of tower skill improvements / skills there. In this part there are ony 2... Why that downgrade?

Also the Skilltree is very short. I like the way of some effects are based on good or evil heroes. but why isnt there just more? I mean, they got the experience of 4 other TD games they made, so what is the reason to make a part 5 wich is so slim, instead of put everything of part 1-4 inside it and improve it?

Level Design is also nothing special, only new things are the transmutation eye or stoneplate for phantoms... even part 3 was more interesting.

So, when there are no new ideas for brandnew content after 4 parts, thats ok! I understand thats. But then take the good stuff of part 1-4, make a nice mix - or do some kind of "best of" - with old content in new design. That would be allright, everyone is here because we like the old content. But to me this part feels ike a big downgrade, compared to the mechanics we allready had in previous games.

I really dont understand why everone is that happy and the rewievs are that good. And i really hope that they will deliver a lot of more content in addition, to make that game a full "complete game" experience.

[The doctor is in]

the game just came out

give them time to add more content to it

[KING CRIMSON]

Originally posted by The doctor is in:

the game just came out

give them time to add more content to it

this statement of yours is contradictory

[CORAX]

Originally posted by Slin:

Am I the only one who is pretty unhappy with this game because of the low content?
And im not talking about the low quantity of levels, heroes and enemies... But for example about the mechanics of tower upgrades.
In previous parts we got a 2-way-upgrade system for towers, where you could choose the way of tower improvement in this or that dierection. Unfortunately thats not inside the game, and i dont understand why. It was a solid and interesting mechanic, whats the reason for downgrading this? I know, it was allready not implemented in KR4, but at least we had 3 kinds of tower skill improvements / skills there. In this part there are ony 2... Why that downgrade?

Also the Skilltree is very short. I like the way of some effects are based on good or evil heroes. but why isnt there just more? I mean, they got the experience of 4 other TD games they made, so what is the reason to make a part 5 wich is so slim, instead of put everything of part 1-4 inside it and improve it?

Level Design is also nothing special, only new things are the transmutation eye or stoneplate for phantoms... even part 3 was more interesting.

So, when there are no new ideas for brandnew content after 4 parts, thats ok! I understand thats. But then take the good stuff of part 1-4, make a nice mix - or do some kind of "best of" - with old content in new design. That would be allright, everyone is here because we like the old content. But to me this part feels ike a big downgrade, compared to the mechanics we allready had in previous games.

I really dont understand why everone is that happy and the rewievs are that good. And i really hope that they will deliver a lot of more content in addition, to make that game a full "complete game" experience.

Yep. Also don’t think this game is worth it at $18. Even more so at $20 dollars.
The complete game customers used to get(before kingdom rush vengeance) was way better bang for your buck.

Now ironhide is charging loyal customers for what use to be free dlc? They trying to be greedy.
Plus this brand new entry ain’t even 100% complete. I’m a 100% shield kr games. gotta draw the line somewhere.
Dude they moved all the game from the Apple Store. To the arcade+ paid-wall side.
Frontiers, origins, the original kingdom Rush, vengeance. Now… new fans of the game can’t even own kr outright anymore.
This is getting ridiculous
Sure sure the first content dlc for alliance, Will be “ guaranteed “ free. Still means this company is going in the wrong direction for monetization of their newer titles.

[Slin]

Originally posted by The doctor is in:

the game just came out

give them time to add more content to it

Yes, more content like more levels and heroes, wich is a good thing. But will they improve the poor mechanics like tower upgrades and the short skill tree? Im not sure... :/

[Slin]

Originally posted by CORAX:

Yep. Also don’t think this game is worth it at $18. Even more so at $20 dollars.
The complete game customers used to get(before kingdom rush vengeance) was way better bang for your buck.

Now ironhide is charging loyal customers for what use to be free dlc? They trying to be greedy.
Plus this brand new entry ain’t even 100% complete. I’m a 100% shield kr games. gotta draw the line somewhere.
Dude they moved all the game from the Apple Store. To the arcade+ paid-wall side.
Frontiers, origins, the original kingdom Rush, vengeance. Now… new fans of the game can’t even own kr outright anymore.
This is getting ridiculous
Sure sure the first content dlc for alliance, Will be “ guaranteed “ free. Still means this company is going in the wrong direction for monetization of their newer titles.

To be fair, they announced a free campaign dlc for oktober, so there will be some more content at least. But that doesnt touch the main problem i have with the felt downgrade of the game version itself

[CORAX]

Originally posted by Slin:

To be fair, they announced a free campaign dlc for oktober, so there will be some more content at least. But that doesnt touch the main problem i have with the felt downgrade of the game version itself

Alri.

[Panpan2019]

Originally posted by Slin:

Originally posted by CORAX:

Yep. Also don’t think this game is worth it at $18. Even more so at $20 dollars.
The complete game customers used to get(before kingdom rush vengeance) was way better bang for your buck.

Now ironhide is charging loyal customers for what use to be free dlc? They trying to be greedy.
Plus this brand new entry ain’t even 100% complete. I’m a 100% shield kr games. gotta draw the line somewhere.
Dude they moved all the game from the Apple Store. To the arcade+ paid-wall side.
Frontiers, origins, the original kingdom Rush, vengeance. Now… new fans of the game can’t even own kr outright anymore.
This is getting ridiculous
Sure sure the first content dlc for alliance, Will be “ guaranteed “ free. Still means this company is going in the wrong direction for monetization of their newer titles.

To be fair, they announced a free campaign dlc for oktober, so there will be some more content at least. But that doesnt touch the main problem i have with the felt downgrade of the game version itself

True! I would absolutely say the game is worth it. More content is coming in the future and the game has tons of replay value. I for one am very satisfied with it.

[grifterspawn]

My biggest pivot is I just wont be it on Android anymore.... $7 and you get a handful of heroes and towers and youd have to pay another 40 or so to unlock the others. If I BUY a game I expect to get everything they have not just unlock parts of the game so I can then buy more of the game..... thats a F2P game model.

[Shyguymask]

I think the whole "KRA has low content" criticism is unfair in the context of comparing it to other KR games. All KR games launched with little to no postgame levels and they got their post-game levels through future updates. Frontiers is considered the best KR game yet it launched with no mini-campaigns and less heroes at the time.

Talking about if the game in its current state is worth it for the asking price makes sense, but acting like KRA is taking a step back or doing less than its predecessors launch-wise is innacurate.

[CORAX]

Originally posted by Shyguymask:

I think the whole "KRA has low content" criticism is unfair in the context of comparing it to other KR games. All KR games launched with little to no postgame levels and they got their post-game levels through future updates. Frontiers is considered the best KR game yet it launched with no mini-campaigns and less heroes at the time.

Talking about if the game in its current state is worth it for the asking price makes sense, but acting like KRA is taking a step back or doing less than its predecessors launch-wise is innacurate.

It is taking a step back. Vengeance, junk world, legends. all did less than the previous title.

2 maps initially, for legends of KingdomRush, only gone up to five at the end of its run.

Junk world is like always in a beta period also not available on steam for the foreseeable future

Vengeance, and what I’ve heard alliance, as well junk world have slow pasted waves of enemies that aren’t in formations. More like a lazy river of single lined squishy that are easy to kill.

Then there’s the un-skippable in vengeance that you have to watch to the end every time even after you reset the level. A problem solved in the very first iteration of this franchise.

Plus all the games on iOS you could buy for $4.99. Base model of the game(includes free updates with new content). Is no longer purchasable. It’s not an iOS. You can only download it and play it if you have a subscription. Like what. Subscription service for an app game. Bru.
I bought Vengeance Frontiers origins the originals, then all their HD counterparts.
Now next to them, same titles but with a plus at the end, like what the ♥♥♥♥.

Company is taking a massive step backwards. Starting to look like popcap’s downfall all over again

[Shyguymask]

Originally posted by CORAX:

Originally posted by Shyguymask:

I think the whole "KRA has low content" criticism is unfair in the context of comparing it to other KR games. All KR games launched with little to no postgame levels and they got their post-game levels through future updates. Frontiers is considered the best KR game yet it launched with no mini-campaigns and less heroes at the time.

Talking about if the game in its current state is worth it for the asking price makes sense, but acting like KRA is taking a step back or doing less than its predecessors launch-wise is innacurate.

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How is any of this relevant to what I said exactly?

[CORAX]

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How is any of this relevant to what I said exactly? [/quote]

Which post?
Plus ya replied way too fast.

[Shyguymask]

I was talking about Alliance. You started talking about Vengeace and other games taking steps back which isn't relevant to what I said about Alliance.

[CORAX]

Originally posted by Shyguymask:

I was talking about Alliance. You started talking about Vengeace and other games taking steps back which isn't relevant to what I said about Alliance.

Taking about how the big picture, is affecting the future(alliance). Going about lvls & game progression in a bad way. previous titles had these lvls and maps completely free.
How none of the ways from before, are viable purchasing options anymore.
Legends was behind arcade plus, a whole year til its release on steam. Which would have been $84 for the whole year/monthly access to the game. Customers can’t outright own these individual titles anymore. Can’t buy frontiers for $5.99(least on apple devices)

Would like to support ironhide, as their game loop and tower defense mechanics are fun. Alliance, junk world, vengeance. Are so far… disappointing. Only thing going for alliance, is the hype of release.

No real improvements. Only taking more money from customers without adding interesting ways to fight back. Against the waves of enemies. Nerfing enemy waves. Attacking into single-file groups, much too easy to pick off. making a majority of the levels a cakewalk. Crazy powerful pay to win heros.

Them 3 games are… look pretty fluff. Little to do after all campaign lvls are beat.
Small steps in the wrong direction makes me unwilling to support alliance now. Unless it’s on a severe discount. Doubly So for vengeance DLC.

All to say the incentive to purchase this game. Be going down the drain.

[^7ja^1co]

You are not the only one, sadly there are way more people who will just accept any mediocre game and make it seem like its perfect. A lot of people didn't even notice the low sound quality which we now know is low sampling and lack of stereo...lack of stereo in 2024 on release...

People are also quick to forget devs released expensive (cost per map vs base game) DLC for KR4 but that was because they need extra money to deliver quality...quality which now you see in KR5 with low quality sounds, re-skinned almost everything...sure sure.

They somehow needed to pay, not one, but TWO writers to write a STORY for this tiny little tower defence...

I think people just choose to ignore the fact that majority of the towers, heroes, maps are just reskins, now to a point its understandable but normally you expect developer to put enough novelty to hide the re-use...not here though, they even cut out encyclopedia then tried to tell people the in game tooltip is the encyclopedia...disrespect towards fans is sad to watch.

They changed something in the code to disable the ability to use cheat engine to speed up the game but when fans have been asking for years to get the button to speed up the game? No. Nuff said.